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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:02 AM
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MSNBC POLL: Do You Think GITMO Should Be Shut Down?
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 10:03 AM by grumpy old fart
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:05 AM
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1. Done.
55% yes 45% no
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:06 AM
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2. There's no "HELL YES WHAT A STUPID QUESTION!!!" response
Amazing how many Americans say "How'd the Gemans allow it to happen"...and then 45% say Gitmo is a good thing. DUHHHH. Maybe when Gitmo becomes a US death camp, rather than just a US concentration camp, maybe those Americans will find some fucking conscience & morality then.

Yes
55%

No
45%
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:13 AM
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3. Hey, Lynn! 56%/44% now. nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:14 AM
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4. Also no 'It never should have been opened in the first place' response
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 10:17 AM by Hissyspit
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:35 AM
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12. "Are we happy America has an infamous concentration camp?"
I just read yesterday some 60% of incredibly stupid Americans don't believe human rights are being violated at Gitmo.

:wow:

HELLO STUPID AMERICANS! Gitmo IS a human rights violation!
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:16 AM
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5. Done!
They better close it down, at least until they fix that pesky airduct system...
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Immad2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:19 AM
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6. done
Do you think the prison at Guantanamo Bay should be shut down? * 3201 responses

Yes
56%

No
44%
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:23 AM
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7. Done. Still at 56% Yes, 44% No
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:24 AM
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8. Done
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:24 AM
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9. here's where the poll was at yesterday:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:26 AM
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10. No, let's ask the right question
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 10:30 AM by Jack Rabbit
There's been a lot of sentiment to close down Guantanamo. Doing so will barely put a dent in the problem. This isn't the right question to ask.

Guantanamo and the other detentions facilities in Bush's network can stay open as far as I am concerned as long as they cease to be gulags and the regime (or the administration that replaces it after it is removed from power) begins to respect the rights of those held as prisoners of war or as other criminal suspects under the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions.

That means that torture and humiliating treatment stop, not just at Guantanamo, but all of these prisons.

That means that those detained in combat are recognized as prisoners of war until a court of law (not G. W. Bush) rules otherwise.

That means that any prisoner of war or other detainee charged with any crime will not have his legal rights abridged.

That means that prisoners of war or other combat detainees are not held indefinitely but are repatriated once hostilities cease.

There are about forty facilities in Bush's offshore network of gulags. Guantanamo is only one of them; there have been over a hundred deaths reported of those in US custodies at these facilities, but none of them at Guantanamo.

We don't need to shut down Guantanamo. We need to open Guantanamo and Bush's other gulags to international inspection to assure that those detained are being treated according the Geneva Conventions.

That is what we should be asking.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:29 AM
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11. OK - So it should be shut down. Do you think that will solve the problem?
The abuse would just move to some other prison or they would ship the prisoners off to some foreign land that allows torture.
The regime will not allow them to be sent to the United States because then they would have to give them Due Process.
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