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Plaid Adder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:04 PM Original message |
I'm just gonna say one thing about this Dean stuff. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. Sort of a "any publicity is good publicity" point of view? |
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radfringe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 05:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
119. yes |
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Career Prole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yooooooooooouuuu said it! |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Insightful and reasonable |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. done. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. You betcha! Thanks, |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. Hear, hear! |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. And WHEN has the head of the DNC ever been "news" anyway |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 01:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
78. Sort of how Malcolm X made Dr. King look so reasonable. n/t |
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Lone_Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
100. The other Dems should be the ones clarifying Dean's insights... |
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Tamyrlin79 (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
112. Rather than "attract" I'd say "cater to" n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
107. In the immortal words of Lyndon Johnson |
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Somawas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. "Well, is Bush a liar, or was that unfair?" |
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Plaid Adder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well, who knows, maybe that's what Dean plans for an encore. n/t |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. LOL |
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JRob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
62. LOL!!! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. That's why our party is so frikken stupid. We don't know strategy when we |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. Thanks, Plaid! |
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noise626 (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
12. Very good point :) |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. Exactly! |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
14. As one who has intentionally written and had published provactive LTTE's |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Amen to that, too |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
15. I agree. It's good for the public to be |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Right on (nt) |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
17. Simply, yes. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
18. I agree. I don't believe he is just 'talking'. He's too smart for that. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. Being oh-so-polite and oh-so-civil doesn't get our message out. |
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clydefrand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. You are right on, Plaid! My thoughts exactly. Those Dems |
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paula777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. Well I certainly agree with this. We need someone controversial to |
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Upfront (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Good point. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Dean has come out |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
23. The Meme Machine |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
24. Beat them at their own game. Perfect. |
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sofaman1 (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
25. If this is a planned strategy |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. What you see in the media is not discussion, it's spin |
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sofaman1 (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Thanks for the welcome |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Don't buy the spin. Read what Edwards actually said. |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I don't think they are distancing |
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paula777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Because Biden, Edwards and Richardson don't have spines and |
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postulater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. Welcome sofaman1 |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Good cop - Bad cop thing maybe? n/t |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
68. Welcome, Sofaman |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
28. You're the first person I've seen express that thought sensibly, in a way |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
30. kick so perhaps the dem leaders will take note when skimming this forum |
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savannahana (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
31. right to the point - excellent! |
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InternalDialogue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
34. Building the lexicon |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
36. Yep. My sentiments exactly. Dean should keep talking and talking and... |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
39. I hadn't thought of it that way -- though I support Hunky Howard |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. Republican babies or Democratic babies? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
40. You mean like was it Treason or just incredibly stupid? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
41. How about 9/11 did They LIHOP or MIHOP? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. Good point. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. And Truman is Howard Dean's political hero |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
43. Winning Strategy |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. Sage wisdom from the Checkerboard Snakecharmer! |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. Thanks, Plaid! |
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tallahasseedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
47. Wonderful and sensible post. |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
49. We have a bingo! |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
52. agreed |
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WLKjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
53. 'bout damn time someone said it like that! |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
54. Then he should have said "The UK memo shows Bush lied about the war." |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Just this |
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kohodog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
55. Finally the Dems have a spokesman with an edge |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
56. Yeah. Being in the constant reactive mode hasn't worked so well. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
58. good to see all these greatest page recommendations |
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Aflac (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
59. The DNC chairman is not a simple attack dog |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 06:46 AM Response to Reply #59 |
120. In a "usual world" - I would agree, sadly in this media climate |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
60. Great explaination Plaid |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
61. Also showing he won't back down. I said it -- I meant it. |
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JRob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
63. I like it! still breaking the fund raising record too... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
64. Amen |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
66. Dean forgot to use the word RICH |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
67. Dead on |
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PuraVidaDreamin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
69. Mom just gave me Lakoff's, Elephant in the Room |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
70. My thoughts exactly. Hey, did we love Galloway, or did we not? |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
71. One good |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
72. There is always the danger of becoming what we fight against |
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Singular73 (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
73. Since the MSM gives moral equivalance to every point of view... |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
74. Exactly Exactly Exactly |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-08-05 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
75. Good point. n/t |
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Borgnine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
76. There's just not enough times this thread can be recommended. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
77. And while everyone obsesses about this crap, the real news is ignored! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. nah the issues don't get ignored |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:52 AM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Obligatory slapdown done, and I contributed a media piece of my own. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:11 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. many of us can walk and chew gum at the same tiime |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:49 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. It isn't about us. It is about the media and the rest of the world.We |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 03:00 AM Response to Reply #85 |
90. i think you need to re-read the original post nt |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 03:05 AM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I did so. I still think this is really bad PR. On all sides.JMHO. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #91 |
99. thats cool. |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Get over yourself |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:50 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. The same to you! |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 08:12 AM Response to Reply #77 |
93. Republicans' theocratic corporatist powergrab is not newsworthy? |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #77 |
101. If Dean can get away with this, then the MSM will risk more. |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
82. great insight. I absolutely agree with you. It's savvy, ballsy, and |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
83. You changed my mind about it |
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valis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
115. Kudos for changing your mind and saying so in public!!! |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
84. I think it plays to other stereotypes as well |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
88. Exactly. |
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bdot (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
89. Dean has been watching The Daily Show. |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
92. Exactomundo, PA |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
94. This just sparked a conversation about John McCain with my boss |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
95. Spot on. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
96. I don't think Dean is making the right kind of headlines |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. As a candidate for pRes, Dean could hurt us with this stuff... |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
110. So you think that almost all white Christians are bigots? |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
97. Oh, gawd |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
98. The DEMs are playing our own game. |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
103. Plaider |
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patcox2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
104. You give him way too much credit. |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. People can learn from their mistakes and even use their tormentors |
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Tamyrlin79 (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. Uh, no. |
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patcox2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Oh, sure, Dean is the savior, look at his incredible success. |
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Tamyrlin79 (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. |
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leQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
105. wow, i outta get out of LBN more |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
106. But we liberals are supposed to be better than them! |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
108. Careful what you ask for |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
109. Every Democrat and progressive should be such a loose cannon. |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 08:41 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Concur... kick! n/t |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
116. He painted a HUGE RED TARGET on his chest |
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Donailin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-09-05 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
117. Yebrent said the say thing yesterday here: |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
118. regularly debated by who, how and where? |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
121. Yesterday the Dems had a press conference and reporters were... |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-10-05 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
122. Some of you young 'uns on this board |
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pat_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-11-05 04:07 AM Response to Original message |
125. I have a different take |
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