Am I the only one not excited about "Deep Throat"?

[skypilot]

Ever since I heard that it was someone named Mark Felt and heard myself saying, "Who?", I haven't been able to work up any interest at all in this. We've got Nixon-part two going on in the White House right now and somehow I just don't care about some old guy who claims to be the one to have helped bring down a long-ago disgraced and now-deceased president. The disgraceful and very much alive excuse for a president that we have now is much more on my mind.

[geomon666]

1. I couldn't care less.

And I don't understand why anyone would care. This was 30 years ago. It wasn't even important then it's even less now.

[bunkerbuster1]

5. Pop quiz: who fired Archibald Cox?

And what became of that man?

And why were we all talking about the nuclear option last month?

You bet your ass this was important, and it still matters today.

[TahitiNut]

8. Robert Bork

Next?

[bunkerbuster1]

21. Point is, Vendettas last a lonnnng time.

I'm not addressing this to you, Tahitinut, but...

Anyone think there wasn't payback involved when Bork was denied confirmation to the SCOTUS?

More broadly, anyone think there wasn't payback involved when the House insanely went ahead with trying to bring down Clinton over lying about a blowjob?

More narrowly, don't you think the reThugs are obsessed with preventing another Bork from happening?

(and as long as we're trying to bring things of the Watergate era to the here-and-now, let's not forget that Chuck Colson mentored none other than Shit Floater John O'Neill)

[RagingInMiami]

9. Nice avatar!

[gman16]

19. Not important?

It was'nt important then and it is'nt now?
Wow, nothing like not understanding history and being blind to repeat it.

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[BurtWorm]

2. One potentially positive thing about the Deep Throat revelation:

It may inspire someone in the government to want to emulate him.

[lady lib]

7. Good point,

but I honestly don't care either. There are too many other pressing issues right now.

[VOX]

32. Great point, BW.

Anything to loosen some lips.

[Mizmoon]

3. I dearly wanted it to be Pat Buchannan

I know it doesn't make any sense that it would have been him ... THAT was the beauty part!

Pat pulls of his monster mask and - LOOK - he's actually an American hero! :P

[skypilot]

6. I knew thathe was on the short list of suspects but...

...a coworker of mine made an excellent point. She said she was glad that it wasn't him because she didn't want him to be remembered as some kind of hero. We both think that he should go down in history as the asshole that we all know him to be.

[TahitiNut]

14. I think it's interesting that Buchanan reacted as if it were a compliment

... when he responded to such speculation, and he now spews vitriol at Felt for being an "informer."

It's a characteristic of organized crime to castigate "snitches" - and the people doing so are showing their stripes.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. What, Buchanan be Deep Throat?

Nah. That means he has to think of someone OTHER then himself and I doubt that'd be happening anytime soon. He was so against Bush's Iraq war but he still pumped him up of course. :eyes: Just so he could sell his book.

[Walt Starr]

4. It'll be an interesting trivia question in about a decade

and by then, 90% of the people asked wouldn't have a clue who Deep Throat was, let alone the person's real name.

[calico1]

10. Well, I am old enough to remember

Watergate and all that was going on. I was a teenager but knew it was an important time in our history. I still feel that way. That it was a long time ago does not make it less meaningful, imo. I personally am not really all that surprised that it was not a more colorful, well known figure. Can you imagine someone like Alexander Haig with his ego keeping it a secret all these years? I can't. Same goes for most of the other more popular suspects.

[skypilot]

16. I'm not discounting the importance of Watergate.

I'm just not terribly excited about this latest revelation. We all knew that there was someone named DeepThroat who helped bring Nixon down. It's not as though no one ever knew that a DeepThroat existed. It's just not terribly interesting to me to see a guy in his twilight years coming forward saying "It was me".

[theboss]

11. I was excited to have it confirmed

For political junkies, it's always been one of the great mysteries.

[dogday]

12. I am waiting for Bush's Deep Throat to come out and tell us all

of the crap that his administration has been doing. Now that I can get mighty excited about. I dream about that.....

[Pacifist Patriot]

13. No, you aren't alone. That would be me.

I had a moment of "oh cool, now we'll know" and then it passed. Right now I'd be much more interested in a government mole who blew the lid off the Bush administration's crimes.

[ComerPerro]

28. Exactly my reaction

But, then again, part of that is because I wasn't even alive during Watergate.

[FreedomAngel82]

40. Yep

After it sinks in it wasn't anybody you were thinking of it's like "okay, now back to today."

[Crankie Avalon]

15. I'm with you...

...this seems like yet another distraction from what the news should really be covering (the crimes this current administration is committing).

Apart from being able to make an invidious comparison about how we don't have any Mark Felts or intrepid major media telling the truth about those in power today, and therefore showing just how far backward we've gone in 30 years, I don't see why the news should be so saturated with this.

It's an interesting solution to one of history's mysteries, but the news media's job is supposed to be monitoring current, contemporary events as they are happening.

[lenidog]

17. Just because it happened 30 years ago or 300 hundred years ago

doesn't mean that in some small or large way it still isn't effecting you today.

[skypilot]

24. What is the "it" you are referring to?

Like I said to another poster, I'm not discounting the significance of Watergate itself or history itself. It's the disclosure that Mark Felt was Deep Throat that I'm not excited about. If he told us that he had some dish on the current administration or on Poppy Bush then I'd be excited.

[lenidog]

29. The reason people are excited about it is because

its the answer to a question that has plagued people for 30 years. Having this answer may rewrite history or at least how we perceive it.

[FreedomAngel82]

41. How would it effect me today??

I don't get that. How? Is he going to bring Bush down too?

[lenidog]

51. Off the top of my head

We now have a face and a name to Deep Throat after decades of thinking of him as a semi-mythical figure. Maybe someone in a similar position today may be inspired by the now real Deep Throat to make a stand and give us the hard evidence to bring down Bush.

[mr_hat]

18. I'm not even interested in current porn.

[SmokingJacket]

20. I think it's very interesting.

It's not every day a 30-year mystery is solved. History, dude!

Beats Michael Jackson.

[deutsey]

22. It's interesting, but the more I learn about this guy the less I like him

I'm glad he helped bring Nixon down, but he's hardly someone worth venerating (convicted of approving illegal break-ins of Vietnam War protestor offices and receiving a pardon from Reagan later for it).

Still, it's an interesting footnote to the Watergate affair.

[kentuck]

23. And who was the yongest lawyer on the Watergate Senate staff?

It was someone that te Repubs remember very well and have sworn to follow her for the rest of her life : Hillary Clinton.

[FreedomAngel82]

42. Do you think that's why they

hate her so much? When Clinton came into office they didn't have to go after her too but they're still so into bringing her down. I think it could have something to do with that. Obviously republicans keep their anger for a long time.

[Triana]

25. I'd MUCH rather see the Downing St. MINUTES get as much traction...

...that's what we ought to be expending energy and front page space on, NOT Deep Throat. That is nothing but a diversion.

THE DOWNING STREET MEMO is what I want to see more news about - particularly on the MSM...I don't give a goddamned about Felt.

[bpilgrim]

26. "Nixon-part two going on in the White House right now"

thats why it is exciting to me... a great opportunity to get out there why it is important for PATRIOTS to SPEAK UP.

peace

[skypilot]

27. Patriots speaking up is all well and good but...

...not if they are going to speak up and then hide for over 30 years.

[bpilgrim]

31. he was EFFECTIVE

i certainly understand and respect anonymous sources who expose the crimes of our masters, especially ones as effective as he.

peace

[Media_Lies_Daily]

33. "Speak up and then hide for over 30 years"? Why do you think he...

...didn't want to become a public figure? Look at the crap that's flying around about the guy now...it would have been a LOT worse back then!

Additionally, the FBI was known to have dealt harshly with leakers over the years, particularly when Hoover was the Director.

Felt did his duty as an American citizen, and he should be thanked for that instead of vilified.

One more comment...you give the appearance of not caring much about history and historical events. IMHO, if more people knew about the efforts made by people like Felt to ensure that our Democratic style of government was safe, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.

[skypilot]

39. "you give the appearance of not caring much about history..."

Jesus H. Christ!!! How many times have I said on this thread that I am NOT discounting the significance of Watergate?!?! I don't know what "appearance" you are going by. I always knew that there was someone who called himself Deep Throat who gave info to Woodward and Bernstein. Now I know his actual name. History marches on.

[lectrobyte]

30. Not excited much by it either, especially since I always had the

idea that it was someone going out on a limb to do something noble (hey, I was a youngster back then) and now it seems to be more about ambition and screwing over Gray etc.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

37. Ever think that the media might be painting Felt in the worst...

...possible light?

After all, Nixon was a GOP president, and he was the forerunner politically of the rightwing NeoCons that are currently in control of our country.

[FreedomAngel82]

47. Of course they would

Doy. Of course they would since they're all conservative. That's like saying they wouldn't do the same to anyone who brought Bush down.

[lectrobyte]

48. No, I hadn't, that's a good point. Now, if we had a modern version

of Deep Throat, I have to wonder if any reporters would even talk to him/her, and if they did, any of it would see the light of day...

[Johonny]

35. I kinda agree with you

Neither the press or Felt really took down Nixon. They kept the story alive in the press. But the real information that really sunk Nixon came out in Congressional review. Thus it's very unlikely Bush will get taken down in a Nixon like fashion. No matter how many whistle blowers there are.

[FreedomAngel82]

36. I'm not that excited myself

I was expecting Poppy Bush. THEN I would've been excited. Oh well. At least he's revealed himself. I still think he was pretty brave. Why did he decide on the name "deep throat"?

[skypilot]

44. That name.

I know, that is curious. What year did that movie come out?

[kwassa]

43. I am excited because Felt is an example of a man of conscience doing the

right thing, showing a civic responsiblity as an American, rather than merely a government employee, to stand up for what is right, and see that justice is done.

We could use a lot more like him, and we could use them right now.

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[BiggJawn]

45. I'm not excited about it, either.

Kind of disgusted to see all the old Nixonites rousing up to smear and denounce Felt, though.

Shrubbya's LOVING it. Takes the spotlight off of HIS dealings...

[BlueInRed]

46. Bush is a perfect reason to care about Deep Throat

The Bush administration is far more corrupt than Nixon's (which is saying a lot), yet no one pays any attention. I for one am happy to remind people that the kind of stuff that Bush is currently doing USED TO BE considered grounds for bringing down a president, and back then, even people in the president's own party were offended by the excessively corrupt behavior.

The story of Watergate, Deep Throat and journalism back then provides such a stark contrast to how much the media and our standards have changed. I hope it stays a hot topic so more people will talk about what standards a president should be held up to.

As long as we talk about Deep Throat and Watergate, we can remind people of where the line in the sand should be drawn and how far across that line some of our politicians have traveled.

[Catherine Vincent]

49. I'm not either.

Mostly because all of that stuff happened before my time and I don't know all the facts.

[LSK]

50. thats EXACTLY how I feel

Maybe because I was 2 years old when this happened has something to do with how I feel about this story.