Will Karl Rove go down in history

[DoYouEverWonder]

as the man who split the Republican Party?

I think last night was just the beginning of the split in the Republican party that we've all been hoping for. Regardess, it very well may be the beginning of the end for Lord Karl. I certainly hope so. This is the first time he has gone to the wall and Repugs in the Senate didn't fold and get in line, with the Dems running, with their tails between their legs, behind them. I bet Lord Karl and Our Lord Savior Bush are very unhappy this morning. It's been nothing but bad news lately and last night a new moderate block from both sides of the aisle was born. It will be interesting to watch them evolve.

[ClintonTyree]

1. He'll go down...

on Jeff Gannon, but I'm not sure about history. The Pukes, above all, want to retain power. If the radicals have to come more to the center, or at least appear to temporarily, they will. Just to maintain power. If anyone thinks that the Repukes are hopelessly splintered, they're wrong.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

2. I'm thinking he will be remember as the Rasputin of the Repugs

He is definitely an inside player who has too much power for power's sake. Rasputin would whisper into the czarina's ear and she would ignore all other advise. He convinced the woman he could cure and heal anything. Same thing with Rove. Rove is a wild-eyed, pseudo cleric/medic that seeks to rule the House of Chimpy. Rasputin was done in by people within the government because they saw him getting too much power. Rove, hopefully, will suffer the same fate (I'm not suggesting kill Rove - but do something just as effective get his ass out of the White House, politics and government). Rove is just as crazy for power as Rasputin and Chimpy is just as weak as the czar and his leadership. When you don't study history (and what has Commander Cuckoo Banana Pants ever studied anything?) you are doomed to repeat it. Rasputin overreached and we are seeing Rove and the repugs doing the same thing.

Per Yahoo Education - Rasputin was a Russian "holy man," a notorious figure at the court of Czar Nicholas II. He was a semi-literate peasant and debauchee who preached and practiced a doctrine of salvation that mixed religious fervor with sexual indulgence (was Rasputin an early advocate for Gannonizing?). Because of his personal magnetism and his ability to check the bleeding of the czarevich Alexis, who suffered from hemophilia, Rasputin gained a powerful hold over Czarina Alexandra Feodorovna and, through her, over the czar. Starting in 1911, Rasputin's appointees began to fill high positions. Rasputin never had a clear political program, but unscrupulous and reactionary officials, financiers, and ecclesiastics profited through his influence (BTW who does that remind you of?). During World War I, when the czar went (1915) to the front, Rasputin's influence predominated. Those who opposed him were often removed from their posts; fortune hunters and incompetents were appointed to replace them (OK, this is just eerie). Rasputin's disgraceful behavior, the czarina's attempts to shield him, and a series of scandals involving his appointees helped to undermine the imperial government. It was suspected at the time that Rasputin and the czarina were working for a separate peace with Germany.

In Dec., 1916, a group of right-wing patriots, including Prince Felix Yussupov and the czar's cousin, Grand Duke Dmitri, conspired to assassinate Rasputin. A generous dose of poison failed to produce any visible effect, and the terrified conspirators riddled him with bullets and threw his body into the frozen Neva River. Later buried, Rasputin's corpse was exhumed and burned by the mob during the February Revolution of 1917.

Karl "Rasputin" Rove. Works for me.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Wow, the parallels to Rasputin

are remarkable. Let's hope he meets a similar fate in the end.

[leftofthedial]

8. hard to kill

[OnionPatch]

3. He'll go down in history alright

As the most toxic scum that ever got scraped out of the cesspool of politics.

[zipplewrath]

5. Somewhere between Rasputin and Otto Von Bismark

This whole admin will fair poorly. Rove's only question is whether he will be seen as a brilliant strategist that created policies upon which this country had no hope of following through, or whether it will be a case of the half crazed Svengali who manipulated a mental midget into total disaster.

[DeepModem Mom]

7. "A half-crazed Svengali" and "a mental midget" -- that's Rove and Bush...

all right. You nailed it, zipple.

[mopaul]

6. he may not go down in history, but he WILL go down on jeff gannon

[HughBeaumont]

9. He can go down all he wants on whatever he wants.

But unlike their revisioning of Reagan, historians aren't going to have an easy time finding two MONTHS worth of positives about the Bush Mad-ministration, let alone two full terms. You couldn't even superficially bullshit this presidency to anything glossy without the facts spray-painting over it.

Rove, by association, will be known forever as the man who utilized dirty tricks, fear-based voodoo believed by rubes, and close election-chicanery to make it all happen.