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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 01:48 PM
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Getting pissed over the Koran Story and Con OUTRAGE!!!
Edited on Tue May-17-05 01:52 PM by booley
Great, now we can't even be sure that the newsweek article was false.
Seems that that one informant from Newsweek was far from the only source claiming that the Koran was desecrated.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/17/1420217

"Newsweek Retracts Koran Desecration Story
Under intense government pressure, Newsweek has retracted a story that claimed U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay desecrated the Koran by flushing the holy book down the toilet. The Pentagon first complained about the article on Friday following deadly anti-American protests throughout the Muslim world. On Monday White House spokesperson Scott McClellan said "The report has had serious consequences. People have lost their lives. The image of the United States abroad has been damaged." Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said "People need to be very careful about what they say and just as people need to be careful about what they do." And the conservative media watchdog group Accuracy in Media said "blood is on the hands of Newsweek magazine."

HOWEVER...

"More Evidence Emerges U.S. Did Desecrate Koran At Guantanamo
However, more evidence has emerged that U.S. interrogators did in fact desecrate the Koran at Guantanamo Bay. A former interrogator has confirmed to the New York Times that copies of the Koran were once tossed on the floor in pile and mistreated. Meanwhile a report from last year issued by the Center for Constitutional Rights also cited Koran abuse. A former British detainee said "The behavior of the guards towards our religious practices as well as the Koran was also, in my view, designed to cause us as much distress as possible. They would kick the Koran, throw it into the toilet, and generally disrespect it."

http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/reports/report.asp?ObjID=UNuPgz9pc0&Content=577

and now we are hearing that the riots may not have been spurred by the Newsweek report like we have been told but by "political reconcilation"

http://usinfo.state.gov/is/Archive/2005/May/13-299433.html

It's actually hard to know what to beleive since the more official< " the source, the less anybody is able to keep thier stories straight.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240

Of course, I expect politicans to prevaricate and reporters to get it wrong or underpressure, retract a story that is true when it literally blows up in thier faces (if I thought saying something that was true had caused riots and deaths, I would be tempted to retract it too)

But I guess what I knievely still get surprised by is the utter BORG like mentality of the Shrubbery and it's supporters to turn on a metaphorical dime when it comes to things liek this without thier heads all exploding. To become Outraged..I mean OUTRAGED!!!!!! at the deaths and rioting sparked by a news story..yet if Shrub had admitted this happened himself..we would have had Cons rationalizing that desecrating the Koran wold save lives and the riots are just Muslims extremists and the deaths..well, this is WAR after all. And anything is justified in war.
Why wouldn't I? it's not like several shrub supporters haven't told me these exact same things. it's not like some official from the shrubery like Rummy or Cheney or the Houseplant himself haven't said this to excuse thier actions.

But now this OUTRAGE can be used by the Shrub for political advantage. Now whenever anybody reports anything unfavorable about what Shrub is doing, the cons can fly out like angry bees and denounce the story as UnAmerican and provoking violence. I especially find rumsfeld's saying that words have consequences interesting. for one, it seems he know cons won't hold his words to stranderd. It als means that they won't bother to consider that actions have consequences too.

Hypocrisy is indeed, it's own reward.

Indeed, shrub supporters still can't seem to make up thier collective minds if they wanted to liberate iraqis to kill them all as terrorists. (They seem to have forgotton anything about WMDs, that's for sure). Indeed, only in Shrub's world can NOT wanting thousands of innocent iraqi men, women and children to be bombed, mutilated and tortured mean that one is "Defending Saddam". Only a con can think that "Freedom" means killing large scores of people oppressed by a dictator that wouldn't even have been in power without US aid.

So the next time I hear another shrub supporter tell me about how they are OUTRAGED, I'll just chalk it up to the hive mind talking.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:11 PM
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1. Newsweek retracted it
that means it "didn't happen anymore". :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:49 PM
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2. The allegations that military interrogators threw the Karon into....
... the toilet or in some way desecrated the symbols of Islam as not false although Newsweek's story may not have gotten it right. Now, Newsweek is the scapegoat based on dis-information about the real facts. This will set the investigations back or may even cause them to be swept under the carpet in the name of national security.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 02:53 PM
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3. Forget this article... they're drowning out the Downing Street memo!
Edited on Tue May-17-05 02:53 PM by redqueen
What about THOSE lies, motherfuckers?!

17 deaths vs. 1700... and the liars in the bush admin got PROMOTIONS!
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