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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:40 PM
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The sixties were a backlash to the fifties,is it that time yet?
I hope it is.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:43 PM
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1. Shut up
and pass the joint.


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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:49 PM
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3. I rolling another on the album cover now.
What were we talking about,again?
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:57 PM
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6. Ooh... Love that cover.
What album is that?


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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:07 PM
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I think it's the Airplane man.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:07 PM
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8. Deja vu.
Edited on Sat May-14-05 09:59 PM by Swede
dupe
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:33 PM
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20. Dude.
Time to ease up.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:52 PM
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4. Talk to the kids the recruters talk to.
rural ,urban, I want to get out of this place. Listen
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:48 PM
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2. Good thought!
We need a backlash to the neocons!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 08:55 PM
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5. I'm thinking soon. Pass the weed. nt
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VoiceOfFreedom Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:07 PM
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7. sorry to tell you this......
Sorry to tell you this......but the masses are too opiated on mass media to blacklash against anything. How do ya think Il Bushe II got elected.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:10 PM
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9. Nixon won a second term too.
The pendulum does swing.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:14 PM
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12. Maybe... but a lot of the Kids aren't
(And that's how it got going last time, as I remember)
Oh, and
Welcome to DU
:toast:
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seg4527 Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:21 PM
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13. that doesn't matter.
lots of people in the anti-war group i'm in on campus didn't even bother voting, or voted for nader. i voted for kerry, but i think i may have been the only one, and i do admit feeling like a dirty whore for doing so.

throughout the late 60's and early 70's we had war hawks as president, and i don't think that will be any different from the coming backlash. although we have learned lessons, both from the success and failures of the movements of the 60's, and i think we'll do a better job, personally, when our time comes.
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NinetySix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:13 PM
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11. Talked to a friend the other day who runs a head shop.
He said he was in County Court the other day and saw a crack dealer get probation for a fourth offense. Meanwhile, because he used to sell glass which had been blown into illegal shapes, he is regularly piss-tested as a condition of a Federal program to avoid jail time. What is wrong with this picture?

It is becoming pretty clear in my mind, having had a few days to think on the situation, that the Government has set up a system which, in an indirect de facto manner, encourages crack cocaine sales while discouraging cannabis sales. Do you suppose this is unintentional, a mere oversight?

I know you were being somewhat facetious in your reference to "weed," but the truth is that it may take a new generation of people "turning on" to foment the kind of critical thinking necessary for the people to see what's happening in the US today, and to publicly stand in opposition to it.

Consider the difference between "potheads" and crack, cocaine, heroin, meth addicts just for a moment. Then ponder why the penalties for marijuana distribution, possession, and use (invariably called "abuse) are so draconian. What did you come up with?
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seg4527 Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:13 PM
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10. yep, i guarantee it.
i spend my spare time planning the revolution with my buddies from my campus anti-war group and some other people.

little by little, in my campus anti-war group anyway, we are stepping up the militancy. i'm sure other campus anti-war groups are trying to do the same, because it gets frustrating never being able to make the press.

i don't mean to scare people by saying "militancy", because we are not violent militants. but every protest we try to push that fuzzy grey line called "law" a little further. civily, of course. well, maybe not civily, but at least non-violenty.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:53 PM
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14. Seriously talk to the people, when you go into a a quick place
ask, If you have time to listen , check this out? Plug the ggod stuff
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:18 PM
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16. The word 'revolution' scares me. But the fact that you're
anti-war comforts me. The word 'militant' doesn't play well with me either; it disputes the idea of anti-war. But the word 'protest' comforts me a whole damn bunch because that seems to me to be the only way to get heard.
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seg4527 Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:49 PM
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18. when i talk say more "militant", i mean...
just more forceful. instead of just a thousand people or so on the streets 3 or 4 saturdays a year, we're starting to do more things that actually may make a change. occupying buildings is one things. sit-ins, etc. taking more direct action, such as trying to get military recruiteres out of high schools, and such.

civil disobedience tactics.

i know of some civil disobedience being planned this monday in minneapolis, which is going to be pretty rad, to protest US support of isreal. unfortunately i can't say more, because these things have to be kept secret so that the powers that be don't get the word and try to stop it.

that's the unfortunate thing about civil disobedience. i helped organize a sit-in at the pres's office of the U of Minnesota two weeks ago, and we were planning a rally to support the sit-iners, but couldn't publicize it until the day of the sit-in. we still got nearly 200 people at the rally, so we did pretty damn good, i think.

for the anti-war rally a few month's ago at the U of M, we blocked a bridge for a while to fly a banner, and then occupied the student union for about 15 minutes. we're taking baby steps, of course, and i don't know what exactly we are doing next in that area, except that we are focusing a lot on counter-recruitment next year, and possibly have some civil disobedience aimed at a recruitment station near campus.

when i talk militant, i dont' mean violent, though, just more forceful and more attention grabbing, because we feel that's the best way to raise awareness and interest in anti-war groups. rallies in themselves are good, but when they are on weekends and in parks, they don't really do anything except make good tools to vent frustration. i could go on, but i don't know if i could ever stop if i really got going. the anti-war movement is desperately trying to reemerge, after fading away a bit during kerry's election, which was a real shame. we could have been a branch of the defeat of bush, instead of fading to make room for kerry to run, which is a lot of what we did.
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Unforgiven Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 09:57 PM
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15. Long Overdue!
;)
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 10:49 PM
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17. ah....
....the '50s?....we had Father Knows Best and Leave It to Beaver to show us the 'way' (how can you not love June Clever?)....and don't forget 'tail-gunner Joe', protecting us from the Red Menace as we 'ducked and hid'....

....then oneday, I heard Popeye, (my hero) saying, 'that's all I can stands, I can't stands no more' and I suddenly realized Dylan was right, 'you don't need a weatherman to know which the wind blows' and the rest is history....

....but to answer your question, yes, and long overdue....
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:06 PM
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19. Hate to burst the bubble but I don't
think it's going to happen with my generation, gen x, say anyone from between 27-40. (Our kids...they are a different story.) I have been somewhat active in the party. My friends...they are totally distrustful of the Dem party and gov in general. It's a reflection of the world we grew up in, and for once I have a hard time articulating my thoughts on the whole business lol. Read Strauss and Howe though. I think they got it about 80% right. We (the liberal side of the political spectrum) have lost a generation. Unfortunately that generation is mine. I think you have a good 5 years before the backlash really starts. Once gen y, or whatever you want to call it, really starts to hit voting age, then you'll see a difference/backlash.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-05 11:50 PM
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21. So, BamaGirl, your friends and you are "totally distrustful
of the Dem party and gov in general. So what or who the hell are you for? What do you think? Who do you think is doing a great job for our country? Who is not? What is wrong?
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BamaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 01:22 AM
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23. I didn't say me
I said my friends lol. I'm known as that crazy Democrat that drives everyone nuts lol. I had a long post typed out but it was all over the place so I'm starting over. This one will probably be as bad. I certainly don't think I have all or any of the answers, but I have spent a number of years wondering why my friends/cousins/siblings have little or no interest in the politcal process. It boils down to distrust of any entity larger than a handful-anyone outside of the circle you personally know. Why? A lot of reasons and all individual. Also consider the media backlash against the Dems since Reagan was elected. I remember Carter running for re-election, but I really remember Reagan being president. My Dad and I have been talking about this a lot recently. (He's a war baby, not a Boomer.) He sees the country sliding into something he doesn't recognize. My generation has always lived in the slide. We don't have the same frame of reference. I'm having a really hard time putting this into words. I don't think anything is really going to improve until a lot of people are hurting. Why? Because that slide my dad and I talk about has been so incremental for most ppl. Most ppl don't see how they are so much worse off under rep gov because it's happened so slowly. That is not even taking into account the vilification of the Dem party that the the right has launched and the msm has participated in. I spend my energy trying to sway individuals, but my hope for the country lies with my children and their generation. I see a huge difference in attitude in the kids I know now than the kids me and friends/acquaintances were. I think there are way too many reasons for that to even begin to go into lol.

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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 12:27 AM
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22. I would concur...
...with your Gen X summation.

Don't know about the other part.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 02:39 AM
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24. Yes... it started a little while ago...
And it is technology driven... DU is an example of that.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-05 04:10 AM
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25. Every decade since
has been a backlash to the sixties.:-(
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