Shrub just insulted FDR again

[charlyvi]

The hatred this regime has for FDR is unbounded. He not only wants to dismantle the New Deal, he wants to obliterate FDR's icon status forever--he wants to outdo him in the history books.

This is what he said:

"Once again, when powerful governments negotiated, the freedom of small nations was somehow expendable," the president said, opening a four-nation trip to mark the 60th anniversary of Nazi Germany's defeat. "Yet this attempt to sacrifice freedom for the sake of stability left a continent divided and unstable."

"We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations — appeasing or excusing tyranny, and sacrificing freedom in the vain pursuit of stability."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&e=2...

Of course, he's talking about the Yalta Conference at the end of WWII. He's accusing FDR and Churchill of selling out to Stalin re Eastern Europe. He's accusing them without staing any reasons why they made the decisions they made.

It's an out and out ploy to destroy FDR's legacy once again. It's sad that someone could be so jealous of a dead man.

[BamaLefty]

1. Inferiority Complex

[charlyvi]

13. I think so.

He's going to outdo FDR even if he has to destroy the country to do it. Meglomania is a powerful thing.

[wtmusic]

2. Heaven help us

if Junior had been at the helm for WWII. Heaven help us.

[Carolab]

3. Not his words, though.

He's just reading them.

[maveric]

4. Stalin was a valuable ally. We wouldnt have won the war without him.

Without the resistance from the east D-Day may not have been possible.

[charlyvi]

7. They lost something like 10 million men during the war.

I hope he doesn't go to Russia and lecture them about WWII. This speech can't be going over very well in Moscow.

[JohnKleeb]

8. And many more civilians

The Russians in the second world war gave the highest sacriface of all, it was a group effort that defeated the Axis for sure but the Russians sacrifaced so much in that war.

[charlyvi]

10. Yes

No matter how evil Stalinist Russia became, no one can diminish their sacrifice during WWII. Not even shrub, hopefully.

[JohnKleeb]

12. I hate Stalin but I admire the Russian people for their sacrifaces in the

war, they really gave it all. The war affected them in a way that it didnt affect us in the US.

[charlyvi]

15. Yep.

It wiped out nearly a generation of Russian men. I think it also left them n a weakened state, allowing their exploitation by Stalin.

[maveric]

18. I have a Russian friend at work. She claims 40 million Russians died

during the war.

[charlyvi]

20. It's so tragic. n/t

[DODI]

30. As I recall the number for Russia was closer to 53 million -- although

that number most likely includes people Stalin had killed. I just saw an "American Experience" which stated the view that without Russia's entry into the Japanese conflict, we would have had to invade the Japanese mainland. It was not, according to the historians in this program, just the dropping of the bombs that ended the conflict, it was the Japanese fear of an invasion of Russia.

[Retired AF Dem]

23. It isnt like Russia had a choice

or anything.

[charlyvi]

24. Still. More Russians died in that war than

from any other nation. That is very tragic and sad. It deserves some respect.

[Retired AF Dem]

26. I agree

I have been to Russia, toured some of the old battle sites and have friends over there. I was just commenting that yes it is true D-Day wouldnt of happened without Russia but Russia didn't have a choice. Stalin thought he and Hitler was buds, we know how that turned out.

[charlyvi]

28. Right.

If I offended you, sorry. Didn't mean to sound snippy. I just didn't quite know how to interpret your post.

[deadparrot]

5. Someone needs to ask George

where a free, unstable society exists.

You need *some* measure of stability in order to protect liberties, you ignorant PoS.

[charlyvi]

6. Someone also needs to ask George about ol' Prescott

You know, his grandfather that was a mega-Nazi supporter. Hmmmmm.

[SpiralHawk]

11. Prescott Bush and the Nazis? Are you bringing that up again?

Good. Every American citizen has a right to know that the President's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was a major financial helper to Hitler and the Nazis.

I hope the White House will append this important fact to its press releases about freedom and the Baltics.

[charlyvi]

14. Nah.

That little tidbit went into the BFEE memory hole long ago. To criticize FDR, Churchill and Stalin for Yalta, yet not criticize the grandfather who aided and abetted the very force they were fighting strikes me as a tad hypocritical.

[Vincardog]

9. Quit appeasing or excusing tyranny IMPEACH aWoL NOW nt

[kenny blankenship]

16. Not only did Stalin require accomodation, but LOOK AT THE RECORD

Europe was divided by agreement to prevent it being divided by BLOODSHED. Some freaks wanted to plow right into Eastern Europe the day after Germany surrendered, while we were still planning on an invasion of Japan that was estimated to run to one million US casualties. (Thank GOD Truman didn't listen to them!) The Red Army was in E. Europe, large and in charge--or going to be there as the Nazis fell back and crumbled. THis was just a fact on the ground, and there was nothing, not a goddamn thing, to be done to prevent it. Dumbfucks like Chimpy don't even understand these basic realities. The record also shows that Europe though divided was STABLE. The Great War that assholes like Bush were not only predicting in this period as inevitable but even PREACHED AS DESIREABLE --as something we should start PRE-EMPTIVELY--never happened. The USSR never invaded; it never attempted to PREEMPT the invasion they constantly feared was in planning by the Americans and the West (well Stalin feared it obsessively).

IF THEY HAD BEEN AS STUPID AND BELLIGERENT AS CHIMPY, THEY'D HAVE TRIED TO START & WIN WWIII (opting for preemption on the reason that their chances to defend themselves and prevail would never be better than the early '50s), and we'd all be dead, or would never have been born. Thank GOD their system --evil and rotten though it was--never empowered people as piggishly stupid and irrationally belligerent as pResident Chimpy McNazi.

Sooo, when is CHimpy going to attack Eisenhower for lettin' them eevul comminist Rooskies take Berlin????

[charlyvi]

19. Well said.

That's what I mean; every act of history must be explained in historical context, a fact shrub never fails to ignore. Europe had been through years of hellish bloodshed; they could not have endured more. Russion troops were THERE and determined to stay. I'm sure Europeans are aware of historical fact, though. This plus their dislike of Shrub will allow them to see through his propaganda.

[Cha]

31. bushco cares not a twit that

they rewrite history at every turn..and does the press call them on it?:(

[jobycom]

29. Yes, excellent post. nt.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

17. When you have no legacy save incompetence

The legacies of others must be impugned to give yours the appearance of having merit.


W in a nutshell.

[charlyvi]

21. He will try to rewrite the history books

in his own image. FDR = appeasement, socialism (or bolshivekism or communism). He's an incompetent liar.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

22. It's already being re-written on TV and in the press

http://www.mediamatters.org

And the rubes lap it up as gospel, even when the lies are held up to their faces.

[AP]

25. Yeah. We should have started WWIII against communism in '45. Russia was

weak...they just lost 20 million people helping to defeat fascism. We should have destroyed them, right?

[charlyvi]

27. but...but...seven years of world war

with millions dead, the survivors exhausted; with Europe in tatters, their cities in ruins, with disease and starvation becoming rampant in some European countries, why that's no excuse! We should have started WWIII, of course. Bring 'em on!

:sarcasm: