E&P to Jonah Goldberg: You're an ignorant twit

[CatWoman]

At 30: Iraq and the Vietnam Syndrome

The Iraq war, of course, is not like Vietnam, in many ways. But in many other, profound, ways they are much alike. Jonah Goldberg, writing in USA Today, finds the comparisons silly. What about the 53% of Americans, according to Gallup, who feel the current war is "not worth it"?

By Greg Mitchell

(May 01, 2005) -- The flood of stories in the press marking the 30th anniversary of the fall of Saigon is near its end (the anniversary having passed on Saturday). There have been articles lamenting that we ever set foot in Indochina, others claiming that we could and should have won the war, and every view in between.

Then there’s Jonah Goldberg’s Op-Ed in USA Today. He used the occasion not to try to come to grips with that war but denounce those -- mainly, he said, “liberal baby boomers” -- who on a “near-daily” basis link Iraq to Vietnam. He said they are simply filled with "nostalgia" for their glory days of antiwar hedonism.

Attempting to bolster this argument, Goldberg charged the boomers aren’t even in touch with the facts: namely, the Vietnam war wasn’t among the most unpopular in our history. His one piece of evidence: someone named Sol Tax of the University of Chicago who apparently claimed, in a 1968 study, that Vietnam ranked as only "the fourth or seventh least-popular war in American history.”

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000903812

[Kerrytravelers]

1. AH... the Goldberg family... such a disgrace to human beings everywhere.

[gizmo1979]

2. A Jewish conservative

there's something you don't see everyday.An ignorant one at that.

[tabasco]

3. Let coward Jonah Goldberg get his ass in the Army ...

and go see for himself. He is a miserable and loathsome excuse for a human. Just another coward chickenhawk.

[Cha]

4. Since jonah goldberg is

lucianne's son..I really don't expect him to have much in the way of any cognitive thought process.

What amazes me is that anyone even gives him an ounce of credibility.

[ibid]

5. So where did Sol say this?

In 1999, Johnathan said
If memory serves, a professor named Sol Tax of the University of Chicago did a study which ranked Vietnam the fourth most controversial war in American history (it might have been the seventh but I'm filing from New York, and all my books are in D.C., and my couch won't answer my research questions by phone). Obviously the Civil War was number one. But we actually had West Point grads fighting for the wrong (or in their view, the other) side during the Mexican American War.

yet I can not find where Sol said this.

bio:Sol Tax, an internationally renowned anthropologist who organized anthropology as a global discipline and helped establish the field of action anthropology, an approach in which researchers work to help solve social problems, died January 4, 1995 in Chicago. Tax, Professor Emeritus of Anthropology at the University of Chicago, was 87.

A specialist on Native American cultures, Tax studied cultures around the world. Throughout his career he was a leader in bringing people together to discuss important issues in the discipline. In 1957, he founded Current Anthropology, an international journal that publishes research and commentary. He was editor of the journal from 1957 to 1974.

“More than any other single person, Sol Tax was the facilitator and organizer of anthropology as an international discipline,” said George Stocking, the Stein-Freiler Distinguished Service Professor of Anthropology at the University of Chicago and an expert on the history of the discipline.

“Tax used Current Anthropology as a means of providing communication worldwide on important issues in anthropology,” Stocking added. “Particularly in developing countries and in the former Soviet Union in the 1960s and 1970s, Sol Tax was the name people associated with anthropology.”

Tax had a keen interest in social issues, and in 1968 he organized a conference on the military draft that brought together leaders of the military and political figures such as Sen. Ted Kennedy. The conference led to the publication that year of “The Draft: A Handbook of Facts and Alternatives” <snip>

[Stinky The Clown]

6. From Liddle Jonah's HS yearbook ........

his gradjeeashun pixture ...

[Rex]

7. People like Goldberg will never admit that we lost a war to rice farmers.

So they deny anything and everything involved with Vietnam - just didn't happen, like global warming. Some people live a life of denial.