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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:48 PM
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If that had been Clinton holding hands with Prince Abdullah, we would
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 01:53 PM by Blue_Roses
be hearing, "he's gay and he's holding hands with the enemy," but no since it's Bush the rwingers think it's a-ok.

Geeze... :eyes:

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:49 PM
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1. In fact here is a response from one:
See that ? Kindler, gentler, more compassionate ! They probably sang "Kumbaya" together ! And you called him a war-monger !!!
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:51 PM
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2. heck, they'd be calling for his head over high gas prices
Gore or Kerry also. Of course, I kind of doubt that the Saudi's would be meeting /holding hands with any of them. They are just checking up on their "American investment"...
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:52 PM
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3. he gets away with everything!
Lets see, wage war against one tyrant who didn't attack us, then skip through the blue bonnets of texas holding hands with the tyrant from one of the most oppressive regimes on planet earth who did attack us!

I feel like I am living in some bizarro world nightmare ...ugh! I should just quit paying attention or I am going to have a freaking heart attack!
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:00 PM
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6. where is the link
with all the pictures from that little romantic meeting?

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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:56 PM
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4. the whole relationship with these two is just weird
not because they are holding hands, but anytime he meets with him it's on "the ranch"...

dirty lying bastards...
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:02 PM
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7. Probably the only place he KNOWS is not bugged. n/t
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:58 PM
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5. Worse. We'd hear about him being a traitor
and how he sold us out to the Saudis
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:03 PM
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8. The Dallas Morning News..
posted this photo on the front page-right next to an article about the state's latest ban on gay marriages(at first glance,they appear related)...
http://www.newseum.org/media/dfp/pdf26/TX_DMN.pdf
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:23 PM
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14. I can't believe the DMN did that! That's really funny!!!
It appears that they're related stories because the larger headline is about the ban, the HL beside it looks like a sub in comparrison.

I just wonder who got called at the paper about that one???
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:23 PM
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15. LOL
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CitySky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:13 PM
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22. Thank you, Dallas!
That one is great.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:22 PM
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23. Brilliant
n/t
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:15 PM
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26. Hi w8liftinglady!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:05 PM
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9. Absolutely anything a Repug president does or doesn't do is a.o.k. in the
eyes of ideological true-believers. Absolutely anything.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:15 PM
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12. not just the true believers -- that's the problem
it's not just that the true believers would remain on their side if their leaders started advocating cannibalism and insisting that 2+2=5 and only liberal america-haters disagree.

the problem is that the media treats it all like a non-event, as if NO ONE would care.


for instance, why isn't the media having a field day with 200 white house visits from a gay prostitute who used a fake name and posed as a journalist??
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:26 PM
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16. That's a private matter which is no one's business: certainly nothing
for the MSM to get to the bottom of.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:37 PM
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18. yes, not like monica at all.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:01 PM
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19. Certainly nothing like Monica at all for the Monica thing demanded
impeachment followed by conviction by the Senate. Conversely a Repug president must be allowed to do or not do absolutely any/every thing he wants or wishes without any interference from the Congress, the courts, the media, or the people. This is so simple, why cannot everyone get it?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:12 PM
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10. It's not just right wingers.
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 02:16 PM by No Surrender
I saw lots of ridicule yesterday directed at people asking questions about cozy george, because kissing and hand holding between men is a normal part of Middle Eastern culture. I asked numerous times for pictures of former US presidents cuddling with Middle Eastern leaders, but never saw any pictures. I did a fair amount of digging for pictures on my own, but couldn't find any like this with any other president - not even our other "oil" president, big bush. Who wouldda thunk that george would turn out to be the only US president to embrace this tradition? (Or so it appears.) And it's not just george and the Saudis. I posted a picture of him yesterday holding hands with Hosni Mubarak.

On edit - Unlike right wingers, at least DUers would be consistent. I agree that they would be having a field day with it had it been Clinton.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:26 PM
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24. There's a big difference
between respecting their culture and embracing it.

I just can't see a red-blooded American man holding hands with another man if there wasn't something BIG in it for him, especially if he knows how it looks to people who aren't familiar with the custom.

People get bashed regularly in America for walking around holding hands with someone of the same gender.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:54 PM
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25. You'll get no argument from me.
I'm still waiting for pictures of other US dignitaries embracing this aspect of Middle Eastern culture. It appears that chimpy is the only one into it.

The point I was trying to make is that DUers were being taken to task yesterday by other DUers (not me) for asking questions about chimpy's coziness with abdullah.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:13 PM
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11. This is not really new -- "House of Bush, House of Saud"

Did anyone see that cover when it came out besides me?

http://www.houseofbush.com /

(As an aside, I'm sure everyone here is aware of this, but having spent some time in Saudi Arabia -- it's very common for men who are friends to walk around holding hands, but let a woman and a man hold hands in public, and it's "chop-chop" time!)

That said, if a Democratic president had been photographed doing this, especially now, all the wingnuts who froth over what this Democrat has said, and what that Democrat has said, would be wetting their pants in their fervor to get their shots in.

Can you imagine what Ann Coulter would say if Kerry were in the pic instead of Bush?
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:17 PM
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13. Prince Abdullah already conducted his business
when he met with Cheney yesterday. This trip with Bush is just photo-op.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:31 PM
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17. they may say it's okay but They aren't comfortable with it
I wonder when they will get sick of making excuses for bush
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:03 PM
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20. I say the "Prince" is trying to destroy Bush: because they do not
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 03:04 PM by applegrove
like being forced into democratic reforms. They worked long and hard to keep all those billions of petro-dollars coming. They have no intentions of 'sharing'.

Anyone else thing the 'Prince' knows the value of a picture?

If I was a Saudi elite I would dam-well want to get rid of the neocons who have broken the 'trust' and want elites for themselves in the USA and democracy everywhere else.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:11 PM
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21. Did Clinton ever meet with the Saudis?
and if so... did he hold hands? I don't remember EVER seeing that.

I know that is the SAUDI custom... but isn't this the social equivalent of dipping the United States flag?

For someone who has unquestionable arrogance of country and an alleged "spine of tempered steel" (to quote Zell Miller), Bush certainly seems to go out of his way to bend over for the Saudis time and time and time again...

Bush's actions don't fit his profile.
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