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nonews Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:49 AM
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Laura Ingraham has breast cancer
http://www.lauraingraham.com/site
Let's keep her in our prayers
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:51 AM
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:52 AM
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2. No
Cancer isn't a good thing, but it's her problem. I fell no obligation to pray for people who make the world worse.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:59 AM
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:07 AM
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22. It's simple
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 10:08 AM by makhno
Good people get good wishes. Bad people don't.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:16 AM
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33. I declined to pray for her..I did not wish her any ill will
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:20 AM
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41. Yeah, sign me up for that list
I agree, it's hard for me to pray for someone who has done so much bad towards others.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:22 AM
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44. Lucifer has cancer...please include him in your prayers
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 10:23 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
David Duke has cancer please pray for him



Liberal Andy has been diagnosed with cancer...if I do pray...I will pray for him.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:26 AM
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51. you nailed it
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:59 AM
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96. I can't pray for her either
She has to muster what few shreds of her life are not based on lies and evil and fight this on her own.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:15 AM
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208. here is a woman who has done everything she can to destroy the lives
of other less fortunate women...women who have no health insurance to care for themselves or their children to get the care they need...i have no sympathy for her..may she live the life she has lied about and see how it feels for those less fortunate..i do not wish her ill will as far as her health is concerned..but nor do i have sympathy for what she faces ahead..i hope she has to declare bankruptsy and see's how the other side lives!!

i know that sounds awful..but that saying my mom said so often is ringing in my ears...what goes around comes around..but not on our timetable!!

fly
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:31 AM
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212. AND, gays, from the time she was freaking in college.
remember how she and a group of her evil friends infiltrated the gay and lesbian campus group and then outed all of the members to the student body? I think this was at Dartmouth (or UVA, I can't remember). What a fucking bitch.
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:17 PM
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123. I pray that her adversity will teach her humility and compassion
amen.
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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:30 AM
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211. Good Prayer, MollyStark...
... I can't rejoice when my enemy falls, I pray for them. I will rejoice if MollyStark's prayer is heard. Miracles do happen.
Unfortunate I feel Laura is an enemy to the public, but I've seen her beliefs cause devastation and division within entire generations of families. She is hostile and hateful. I pray her eyes are opened and her heart softens while she recovers.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:38 AM
Response to Reply #123
223. I was going to say something similar
But your prayer is more concise!
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ElizabethEdwards Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:45 PM
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149. Of course we wish the best for her in this fight.
I have been a Democrat for a long time, and part of the Democratic principles that attracted me as a young person and kept me a Democrat all these years is our compassion. Democrats are simply good and decent people. And good and decent people want everyone to do well -- those who agree with them and those who do not. We fight for the right of voices with which we disagree to speak out, for the right of people to say things we don't believe to be true, even for the right to be malicious and mean-spirited. If we fight for the right for LI to say what she says, how in the world can we use our disagreement with those words as an excuse not to be compassionate in her fight with cancer. Being willing to have her voice muted by illness is the same thing as not wanting her voice to be heard. It is not Democratic or democratic.

I hope others will join me in wishing her Godspeed in this fight, for the easiest road that she can have, and even for the development of compassion about others who have faced hardship and disease without the support network she -- and I -- have. As I go through treatment for this same disease, I think often about the women who fight breast cancer without health insurance, without a supportive husband, with a physically demanding job that doesn't know or doesn't care that she is exhausted and weak and aching, with children but no child care. I find it absolutely impossible that LI won't also have those thoughts run through her head or that she won't rethink her position on health care or the social safety net. Pray for her health AND her enlightenment, if you must. But pray, with me, for her good health.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:15 PM
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154. You're so right
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 09:42 PM by Demgirl
and she will undoubtedly rethink her approach to life and compassion towards others. It comes with the territory.

On edit - I've said lots of prayers for you and your family also, along with everyone else in our support group!
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:29 PM
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160. Nice to see you here
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 09:29 PM by nini
I hope you are feeling better and on your way to excellent health. I think of you often and send good vibes your way.

:hug:



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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:37 PM
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165. OK I consider myself both humbled and corrected - and my apologies
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 09:38 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
It's what I HATE about us and... me as an individual.

For years, I wished the best for people only to hear the hatred doled back at me..I've resisted hating..but it's slowly taken over.

You've used your life experiences to come to a different conclusion. And your recent life experiences are a hell of a lot more harsh than anything I've dealt with thus far and so are hers given the threat.

And anymore I view that level of compassion as a weakness or something I've been DUPED by to even acknowledge it.

I am sorry..not only because it looks bad to be responded to by Elizabeth Edwards right when I know I've been an ass..but because everytime I say "so the F____ what" about LI...someone else says it about you. Sorry for creating that.

Thanks for the response. I don't have much choice other than to transform in the moment of this communication or shivel up. :)

I appreciate you presenting me with that opportunity.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #165
171. It's one of those shrink and skuttle away moments
Isn't it.
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ElizabethEdwards Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:13 PM
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183. Cheers for you
What a really thoughtful post. It is true that we can succumb to the hatred doled out by the other side, and boy is it tempting some time, or we can hold firm. And you are exactly right that sometimes we confuse that holding firm with being weak and that spitting hatred back with being strong . . . when exactly the opposite is true. You have my admiration.

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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #165
214. Beautiful, Humble Post, NothingShocksMeAnymore
...filled with wisdom and Love.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #149
169. She will be in my prayers.
And that is is why I am a Dem as well. We care.

Brand new Dem, actually. Card-carrying and everything. I could get arrested in this town for that.
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scarlett1 Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:44 AM
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281. Getting arrested in your town for being a Democrat.
Do you live in Olathe, Kansas Too. LOL ;-)
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:58 PM
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198. Man, you make me proud to be a Democrat and an Edwards supporter.
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thecai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:37 AM
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213. Excellent Prayer, ElizabethEdwards
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 12:40 AM by thecai
I agree and GOD Bless You completely and quickly. :-)

edit: Welcome to DU!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #149
215. yes you are so right..but it is difficult when
we know so many others who are without..and face death because they can get no care..or children who have no care for terrible illnesses..

but it is incombant on all of us that do have.. to help those that don't..
andy stephenson is a perfect example..and the good lord has provided for me..and my hubby works for a wonderful man who owns the baltimore orioles who has helped andy get into johns hopkins for his pancreatic cancer .there was no hesitation when i called him and asked for help for andy...no hesitation whatsoever!

this is what those of us who have must do..we must help those who need the help..with no hesitiation!

I do hope laura is a survivor, but i also hope she looks hard in the mirror and realizes others are not so lucky as she , that others can not get the care..and i hope she learns to reach out to others with a hand of hope and that she learns respect for others not as lucky as she!
I hope she realizes how many children in Iraq will get horrible cancers from the depleted uranium and napalm she cheered on.. and that our children in uniform face horrible diseases from the chemicals they have been exposed to in this lie of a war she helped promote..and felt little sympathy as their benefits were slashed..

I do pray for her to live a long healthy life , and that she uses that life she has to promote care and human kindess for once in her life!
Sometimes we need a second chance to make amends for mistakes we make...
Her propaganda was responsible in part or parcel for the deaths of many of our troops..no she was not alone in that propaganda..but she now has an opportunity to make amends for those who lost their lives with the help of her lies. They never got a second chance.
i pray she uses that second chance wisely.

and .........Elizabeth i pray for you all the time..you are a kind wise woman..
i met you numerous times..and your parents!! I was a delegate from pinellas co fla...and i spoke with you for quite a while at the fla breakfast in Boston!! And i was in charge of the vip section and seated your folks when John came and spoke for a rally in St Pete.i was also in charge of the vip section when John was announced as vp candidate...i live in Sand Key..

I housed the Kerry field rep for pinellas for 1/2 the year!!

Now you get well!! We need women like you ..you are an incredible lady who i respect for your integrity and your kindness, and your intelligence!!

my prayers to you..and to Laura...

fly..
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ElizabethEdwards Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:18 AM
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237. Thanks flyarm
You wrote "i . . . seated your folks when John came and spoke for a rally in St Pete". Thanks so much for that. It was the only rally my Dad got to see in person, because as you could tell, he is not too mobile. But he sure had his electric scooter decked out for Kerry-Edwards!

And thanks for the smrt thing you said about hoping LI uses her second chance wisely. Hope she sees it that way, too.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:54 AM
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272. So sorry to bother you, but is there an email that I can
use to send you a message from the Gulf Coast of MS regarding matters brewing here?

If you could email me or pmail me or something. I promise, it is something that is important.

:hug: God bless you and your! :hug:

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #149
219. Elizabeth, you are clearly a terrific person and of a type who is the Soul
of the Democratic Party.

But what we Democrats need now, as we face the greatest threat to the Constitution of the United States since the Civil War (perhaps EVER, when viewed from the angle of Caesar Bush crossing the Rubicon), are some Hard and Tough and MEAN Warriors.

And that, by necessity, requires hardening of the heart. It might not be right but if the choice is hard heart to insure restoration of Free America, then I will choose Hard Heart every time.

And no disrespect to your kindness and decency, but when have these Bushevik Monsters EVER shown us anything of the sort?

Maybe it was when they used the Wellstone Funeral as grotesque political tool in 2002. Maybe it was when Rush called Chelsea Clinton the White House Dog. Maybe it was when the Busheviks sent their Paid Operatives to stop the 2000 Miami vote count and beat up a Demoratic Vote Counter.

(and, Dear God, where were OUR people, OUR fighters then? Little did we realize that 2000 may well have been the LAST chance we will ever have for an even semi-trustworthy vote-count at the National Level)

You may be able to retain your good will towards these monsters. I cannot.

I will not.

But thank you for being who you are and saying what you say. Because if the Warriors are ever able to restore the Old American Republic, we will need the Soul of the Democratic Party to remind us what we were saving in the first place. For Hardening of the Heart, once done, is not so easy to undo.
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ElizabethEdwards Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:45 AM
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244. I will be harsh about what she says and does, not about her illness
Listen, I have no problem going after LI for the things she says, the ugly, hateful, untrue things she has said day in and day out. We should do that. We should confront, object, and expose in the loudest voices we have. But we lose our credibility as advocates for decency and truth if we say hateful things about her vulnerability to a disease. And we sacrifice what we are and become what they are. That's my point.



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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:11 AM
Response to Reply #244
250. And it's a good point.
Your posts on this thread are inspiring to many of us who have been choking on anger for years now. I'm not a praying person, but I do wish for LI the wisdom to see what she has done, and I hope for her recovery from this illness.

Thank you for your words. They are humbling.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #244
252. Elizabeth: Senator Edwards and you are such an inspiration!
THANK YOU

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #244
253. If only our voices had a conduit to be heard.
Firstly, welcome to DU, Elizabeth!

I admire you tremendously, and was blown away with your intelligence, humor and humanity that you displayed during a town hall meeting in PA that I had the privilege of viewing on C-Span (which you are already bringing here to DU, thank you). Unfortunately, it was covered on C-Span and not on mainstream media which is truly the only venue that reaches the masses when it comes to challenging the mistruths and propoganda spewed by Laura Ingrams and others. I think that's where the frustration lies in the posts that actually wish Ingram harm. Years of frustration of not being heard, years of frustration knowing that our country has been sold to the highest bidders with mainstream media walking in lockstep with them.

Personally, I wish the best for Ingram as I do for everyone, with the hope that one day they will see the light.

BTW... a perfect example of mainstreams complicity (CNN in this case) is displayed to the tee in this segment on the Daily Show.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 01:47 PM
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285. And it is a good point that I will not try to argue, Mrs. Edwards
Let me again echo what others have said: that you are the kind of person who makes me proud to be a Democrat.

But for myself, I have no compassion left for LI nor any of them. I can no more pray for them than I could have prayed for the health of Leonid Brenzhnev, Ferdinand Marcos, or Augusto Pinochet.

Your point is a good one, but I do wonder what meaning the word "credibility" has in the Bush-Occupied America, where one side can lie with impunity while we cannot even tell the factually demonstrable truth anymore and not escape being labelled "liars" and "flip-floppers".

I do hope and pray that your way is the way, and that I am mistaken in all things about the course of the future of our Beautiful Nation.

But I cannot in good conscience pray for the health of someone who has abetted UnAmerican Totalitarianism with all of her heart.

David Brock, in his book "Blinded by the Right", alleges that a drunken Ingraham crawled up to him in a nightclub one night to confess that she didn't believe a thing she said on TV or in the papers.

If true, that only compunds her moral bankruptcy, her disgraceful conduct.

In either case, I don't wish her ill, but I can NOT wish her well, either.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:32 AM
Response to Reply #149
221. Having lost too many members of my family to cancer
and having watched others battle the disease to remission, how could I not join you in praying for her health and her recovery.
I would not wish that my worst enemy should have to battle this or any disease.

Love to you and yours!

You are in my prayers and not just because of the disease. Your family is very special and have many battles a head of you. Continue to be strong and always remember, with faith and love, all things are possible.

I proudly join you in the prayers for LI's health and enlightenment.

:hug:

merh
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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #221
259. PLEASE, everyone!!
PLEASE look into COCONUT OIL.

I know it sounds NUTS. But cancer is not found in cultures where coconut oil is used in place of the unsaturated corn and soy and canola oils that we use. It turns out that these are implicated not only in cancer, but heart disease et al. Of course, you have to cook at home from scratch to avoid these oils. Or order baked and boiled, and bring your own coconut oil with you. Goes well on baked potato.

Causes weight loss, too. And healing on many levels, including the scars from breast surgery. Just put "coconut health" into Google, or look up the healing properties of medium chain fatty acids in the NIH files.

God lead you all.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #259
261. Where do I find coconut oil?
Do I drink it, cook everything with it or what. I so appreciate the advice, but I could use some directions.

I do love coconut cakes and chocolate covered coconut! When I was a child, on the rare occassion they had coconuts in the grocery store, I would beg my parents to buy me one. It was fun to drain it, watch daddy break it open and eat the crunchy delight.

Please share more, I am all ears and eyes.

Thanks for your post, it brought back some warm and fuzzy memories.
A belated welcome to DU! :hi:

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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:31 AM
Response to Reply #149
239. thanks Elizabeth - very well put! We're thinking of and praying
for you too. Best wishes

Stepheni
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:35 AM
Response to Reply #149
240. You are truly a gracious lady, Mrs. Edwards
Beyond that, words fail me.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #149
243. To paraphrase he that shall not be named...
..."Ditto." Sometimes in the fight for the people over the corporations, we forget that as Democrats our strength is that "we" are not "them."

I too will pray for her recovery, because the God I profess to serve instructs me to love my enemies.

Hate and vitriol are not conducive to good health. Love and forgiveness are. Perhaps she'll realize that. Perhaps she won't. Either way, my prayers are with her.

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:09 AM
Response to Reply #149
248. Thanks so much for providing a positive example
to the people on this board who could use some examination of their own hearts when they call others heartless. Thanks for showing some of the more impulsive among us that class still exists, it's still important, and what it looks like.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, thanks for providing such a positive example to the million of women who have faced, are facing or will face this fight in our lives.

This disease has touched our family, and we will continue to pray for all who are confronted with this challenge.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #149
255. Thank you for this.
I'm moved to tears -- so grateful to have such decent people in our party.


(I love Democrats.)

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #149
264. Hi, Elizabeth!
Nice to see you here and glad you are doing well. You are in our prayers.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #149
287. Yes we will pray for you and her, and for her enlightenment! We all hope
that this day finds you and all your family in good spirits and better health! We love you Elizabeth! One day you will make an OUTSTANDING First Lady. What we wouldn't all give to have a FRANK conversation with you about what's happening in this country. You take care!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

:grouphug:
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Ex_Catholic Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:58 AM
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235. She Probably Gave it to Herself...All that Hate, Lies, Anger...
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:52 AM
Response to Original message
3. No
Just...no. (I echo NSMA's sentiment)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:54 AM
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4. Sorry to hear that, of course I wish her all God-speed in her...
...recovery. I still won't listen to her.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:54 AM
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5. God Must...
be punishing her for something.

Jay
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. Yeah? So why did He punish me, or my
mom, or my aunt? :shrug:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:58 AM
Original message
I may be wrong, but I think Jayfish was satirizing the
right. Whenever something bad happens to someone on the left, or a gay person, they say "well God must be punishing them."

Remember right after 9/11, some televangelist (Falwell?) said that it was a punishment for all the gays and lesbians, etc?

Anyway, if that was what Jayfish was doing, might need a /sarcasm off tag.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:16 AM
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32. You Are Correct. -NT-
Jay
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:19 AM
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40. Then add a goddam sarcasm disclaimer.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:22 AM
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45. Umm...
No!

Jay
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:25 AM
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:40 AM
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63. OK, I'll Take That Into Consideration.
Jay
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:15 PM
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153. I Think It Was Pretty Obvious
The disclaimer should not be necessary, at all. You need to read a little deeper.
The Professor
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #153
163. No, it was not obvious, he should have used a sarcasm tag.
I know women that have had this said to them.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:43 PM
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167. A Complete Non-Sequitur
Your knowing woman who have heard this has nothing at all to do with the overall point. You missed his obvious sarcasm.

Don't get mad at me because your emotions interfered with your logic.
The Professor
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:48 PM
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174. Perhaps the sarcasm was apparent to you because you
are not around people who say and believe things like this.
Do you always feel the need to go back through a thread and castigate people?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:55 PM
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176. It's Been Pointed Out For You, Several Times,...
that this was sarcasm and I understand your initial shock and consternation over the post. Now that the point has been made clear, why do you persist in this fight? Is it because you are angry that anyone would dare imply that the Christian God is a vengeful one? Or is it that you believe that I'm slamming cancer victims? Is it something else?

Jay
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:05 PM
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180. It may be hard for you to believe, but yes, there are women
with breast cancer who have that said to them.
I live in fundyland, stuff like that just isn't funny.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:13 PM
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184. Oh. I Believe It.
That's why I said it, to throw the religious rhetoric right back in their faces and expose it's hypocrisy. I'm not a religious person but lots of Dems. are. The way the Right uses religion to divide America is total bullshit and I'm gonna call them on it when I get a chance. This was is one of those chances and thats the way I do it.

Jay
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:20 PM
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203. I understand.
I'm sorry I got mean and nasty with you earlier.
I went to a class with breast cancer survivors yesterday afternoon.
Absolutely broke my heart to meet a mom of five and *her* mother,
both diagnosed within 7 months of each other. Good people.



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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:41 AM
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227. So, You Came Around
It was the nastiness of your tone that triggered my "castigation" or your "castigation". An apparent post that sardonically amplified both the "what goes around. . ." and hypocrisy of fundies evinced an emotional response in you that clouded your perception.

Finally, you see the point of the post was not to belittle breast cancer victims.

Why you thought you would find that sort of callousness at DU is a bit of a mystery.
The Professor
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:01 AM
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254. You've made your point. And managed to pat me on the head, too.
Walk a mile in my shoes.
I've got breast cancer.
I am guilty of being defensive and protective of others and myself with this condition.
Even after pointing out that some women have been told that getting breast cancer is somehow their fault, some people(mostly males) brush it off. "Being emotional". Bah.

And for the record, I've seen all sorts of callousness at DU;
why should this be any different.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 07:14 PM
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148. I got it ..
To me it was only obvious.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:55 AM
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273. When I was diagnosed with breast cancer,
one of the 1st things a co-worker said to me was, "What did you do to deserve that?".
Since he was quoting the bible all the time, I knew what he meant.

My answer was then, as it is now. Nothing.

Good luck in your fight, babylonsister.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:57 AM
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10. That's a really shitty thing to say.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:15 AM
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30. Um ... it was sarcasm.
nt
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. Well, it's too bad that
the rightwing has surpressed science and research in this country. Ya never know what's gonna come back to bite ya, eh Laura?
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:03 AM
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73. Insulting!
How many people with cancer do I know? And God's punishing them? Please.

I hope she gets better. I hate to see anyone suffer, and it's frightening.

Saying God's punishing her is just insulting on so many levels. Horrible. I may vehemently disagree with her opinions, but I don't wish cancer or death on her. (Or anyone.)
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:06 AM
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76. Then Hit The Alert Button! -NT-
Jay
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:16 PM
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102. Are you aware there's a sarcasm smilie?
Here it is: :sarcasm:

Think of the misunderstandings it could alleviate.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:39 PM
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111. Dorian, do you not see what the poster was doing?
Throwing out the typical phrase that rightwing people use (e.g. when a gay person gets AIDs, for example) -- "God's punishing him/her."

It was not meant seriously, okay?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:55 AM
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6. I'm sure that in her case it's because of all the hate she carries....
around - it must be eating her up! (No pun intended.)
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Pissed_Progressive Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:13 PM
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152. intended or not that's hilarious!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:56 AM
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8. Who?
No, seriously, I have no idea who this is.

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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:58 AM
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12. One of the RW Blonde Brigade
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 09:59 AM by comsymp
Coulter, the late BOlson, Ingraham and Kellyanne Conway.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:00 AM
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15. She's another Ann Coulter
David Brock wrote much about Ingrahm in "Blinded by the Right." She is part of everything evil in the GOP since the revolution in the late 80s.

Fuck Laura Ingrahm. Fuck her.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 01:12 AM
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216. Yeah...I don't know who started this thread
but, you know, it is like Coulter getting sick.

You want me to pray for her? Yech. How about you want me to pray for Hitler? No, not going to do it. No, not Stalin either.

How about you want me to pray for Osama Bin Ladin? Not probably going to happen.

Rush Limbaugh? Hannity? Medvid (Medvidiot)? O'Really? Rupert? The Bush family? Naw....

My best is going for Andy.

And so should yours.

Welcome to DU anyway.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:10 AM
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24. Laura Ingraham is one of the Right Wing Blather Brigade
She's got a radio show and writes books.

One of her more infamous ones was "Shut Up and Sing," a tome that advanced the concept that liberal entertainers should keep their political views to themselves.

I can't understand why someone hasn't written "Shut Up and Sing Badly," a tome that advances the concept that conservative entertainers should keep THEIR political views to themselves.

Or better, title it "Shut Up and...no, just shut up."
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:01 AM
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72. LOL, that's STUPID.
If you shut up, you can't sing, and if you sing, you aren't in the act of shutting up.

Idiot.

:rofl:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:56 AM
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9. I'm sure she'll get the best care possible..the kind her and others like
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 09:58 AM by Solly Mack
her deny other people

So, really...I rather send positive vibes to the women with breast cancer who don't have any medical care whatsoever...and those with piss-poor medical care





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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:13 AM
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236. Once again, you and I are thinking alike Solly
My very first thought was "Good thing she surely has top-notch health insurance..." :eyes:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:25 AM
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238. Maybe she'll come out of this a little more compassionate
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 07:26 AM by Solly Mack
and I mean the actual definition of the word...not that conservative kind of compassion she currently embraces.

But honestly, I somehow doubt she will...

There's more money in promoting ignorance than there is in helping people.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:58 AM
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11. I wish her a speedy and full recovery.
I hope that while she is involved in her course of care, that she gets to know some of the "little people" who are around her: care givers, doctors and patients walking the same path. I hope she listens to their stories. I hope she really listens. I hope she learns something about the effect of diseases, like this, on the financial lives of families and individuals all across America.

Then, I hope that leads to her waking up. Just a little would be a great thing, in and of itself.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:20 AM
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42. Amen. But I think she's morally blind and deaf.
If she lives, she'll twist it into believing she's really super special.

Some people are too dense for anything but evil to enter their mind.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:46 AM
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90. Me too, but I hope she goes bankrupt
And they take her house and slap a lien on all her future earnings to pay off all the medical bills. And I hope the doctor operating on her is one of the gay students she outed at Dartmouth and he remembers her and makes little jokes about scalpels slipping...you get the idea.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:59 AM
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14. That really is bad.
I won't be wasting my time nor energy praying for her or giving it another thought. I'm sure that her friends and fans can pick up any slack.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:02 AM
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16. I wish her well and hope for a fast recovery
I wouldn't wish breast cancer on anyone.

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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:03 AM
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17. Ummm....no prayers. She doesn't excite MY pity. n/t
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 10:04 AM by lulu in NC
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:04 AM
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18. It could be from an environmental carcinogen some polluter(s) released.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:36 AM
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86. Yes, that she essentially invalidates thereby promoting on her show.
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 11:46 AM by shance
I will save my compassion for those who truly try and bring good into the world and I will support social darwinism and justice for those that promote those same principles on others less fortunate, like Laura Ingraham has promoted on her show, promoting misinformation, demonization and exclusion of those who do not support the misguided and dishonest policies of this administration.

These individuals promote hate and/or bring harm to others by their dishonesty and harmful actions and words. Yet they want mercy when something happens to them. My compassion and/or mercy will be saved for those who deserve it.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:56 AM
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245. The dichotomy of life..
... while good people certainly appreciate your prayers, they are much more needed by those who are doing evil. I will continue to pray for her recovery, both physically and spiritually.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:05 AM
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19. maybe this will help her to show more compassion to others
and then again...it probably won't.
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:06 AM
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20. My Great Aunt had breast cancer and had to have her breast cut off.
I still remember sitting on her bed and watching her dress. I remember that empty space on one side and a full breast on the other. I have always feared this would happen to me.

I remember volunteering at a children's hospital when I was a teen. There was a young boy who was maybe three. Hos parents explained that he came there for chemo treatments and they were so glad he was young because he did not understand what was happening and he was so resilient. He had the most beautiful long black curly hair. I saw them on a regular basis and was quite sad when his beautiful hair went away. I was happy that treatments worked.

I recall how, as a teenager, my best friend's father was diagnosed with cancer. He was given chemo and it had quite an effect. At one point he was leaning over a toilet, to get sick, and he broke a rib! I recall how my friend's mom was weak and not able to handle all of this. My friend had to do everything from clean up after her father getting sick, to dressing him, to cleaning him after he had to use the toilet! Quite a job for someone who is 17.

No matter what who gets this ugly disease, I would not wish it on anyone. If it helps people have more compassion, think of Laura's Mom holding back her hair as she leans over the toilet to get sick. Think of her friends and the toll it will take on them. A person does not stand alone, they are connected to the rest of the world. We are all connected in some way. You may not like her or her ideals. There are people who are close to her who will be put through an emotional hell because of this. I wish it on no one. I hope for the best.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:26 AM
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52. I empathize with your post...my main issue with the Laura Ingraham's
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 10:58 AM by nothingshocksmeanymo
of the world is that they will be able to afford their treatment...take time off of work until they recover without losing their home or any other worldly possession...but thanks to the policies they have promoted and their hatred for the sick, infirm, disabled and weakest members of society, a diagnosis of illness in America still comes with some HEFTY financial worries.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:37 PM
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164. And the worst part about it is...
.. when these people with little to no insurance are trying to recover, think positively, and gain strength, they are brought down by the thoughts of how they are going to pay bills, afford treatment, and stay on top of bills, etc.. that they have to neglect while not working for a short time.

To me, the hardest part of the recovery process would be to keep happy, positive thoughts in order to heal onesself. Very difficult when you have to worry about your day to day struggles as many Americans do.

Laura will get better and during the process, she will be looking for a pity party, and seem nice, good willed, charitable, etc.. but when she knows she's in the clear, it will be with the same hate and vitriol as we've come to expect from her.

If we are expecting a Lee Atwater moment from her, we can forget it.

On another note, did you see the smug prick Tony Snow on O'Liely the other nite? That asshole is hanging in there and doesn't seem to be missing a beat in maintaining his role as a GOP propagandist in lieu of his recent diagnosis.

Good luck to ya Laura.

Godspeed.. yeah, whatever!
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:06 AM
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21. I've never listened to her show
I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone. I hope she makes a full recovery and learns something positive from the experience.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:09 AM
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23. Interesting post
Is this an attempt to get a negative reaction from DU?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:58 AM
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246. That was exactly my very first thought
when I saw an unfamiliar poster with a low post count. The way the post was phrased was suspect. We've all seen it before. I'm not sure what the poster was really thinking or intending but I'm sure they didn't expect such a thoughtful, passionate and in-depth discussion or, much less, that Elizabeth Edwards herself would weigh in on the matter!
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:10 AM
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25. She had an abortion?
Isn't it Laura Ingraham who spreads that line of bull? "There's a link between women who have abortions and those who contract breast cancer."

Or maybe she's one of the women who refused to breast feed. According to many on RW radio, this also causes breast cancer.

Not only do I pray that she'll beat this completely, I also pray that the battle will somehow open her eyes to the filth she has expounded over the years.
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:11 AM
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27. Karma?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:23 AM
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47. So any woman with breast cancer is being punished for something?
Childish superstition.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:09 PM
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99. No
But those who spout hatred on a regular basis often manifest that hatred in themselves. And this may have happened in Laura Ingraham's case.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:18 AM
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37. If she's been promoting that crap I have ZERO sympathy for her.
None, zip, nada.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:11 AM
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26. further proof that hate metastasizes
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:16 AM
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34. So--only evil people get cancer?
Have you ever met a 2-year old with a brain tumor?
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:22 AM
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46. odd deduction
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:19 PM
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157. What Is It With Folks In This Thread?
Get your brain in gear, please. The point of the post to which you responded was abundantly clear.

Apparently the very concept of cancer terrifies some people into an inability to recognize a point.

Hate metastasizes! Obvious! Nothing there indicates only evil people get cancer. Nothing!

The Professor
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:27 AM
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54. I can't believe the shit I am reading here.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:38 AM
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60. One of our DU members announced he had cancer...
and a certain conservative board i also frequent responded with nothing but compassion.

I am saddened to see the difference in response of this board.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:48 AM
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68. Had the DU member had a national stage to promote
lies about breast cancer, to promote hate and intolerance?
Laura Ingram is a public figure.
I'm more dismayed by the attitude towards those with cancer.
'payback/karma' attitude, and 'hate metastisizing' :puke:
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:09 AM
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78. I don't understand...
are you saying Laura Ingraham spread lies about breast cancer?

I actually haven't read/listened to her at all... I know she's a conservative, but beyond that, I don't know squat about her.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:22 PM
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107. We're Not Commenting on Cancer Patients in General
Just one hate-filled looney.

(And BTW, my father died of leukemia and my mother died of bladder cancer. So I'm quite familiar with cancer and what it can do to someone...)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:51 AM
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70. Yes conservatives are very compassionate
except for those tacky comments on the threads about Kef...
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:08 AM
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77. There were more positive comments than negative
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 11:14 AM by TXlib
I haven't counted, but I would hope there are more positive than negative on this one, too.

Still, one sentiment they often express I firmly agree with: Some things can and should transcend politics. You should never be so consumed with politics you lose sight of your human compassion.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:20 AM
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81. They have a forum dedicated to harrassing this forum
their pretentious humanity is surpassed only by their desire to disrupt this forum. Yeah...every once in a while they demonstrate some respect..what do they want? A medal?

Still, one sentiment they often express I firmly agree with: Some things can and should transcend politics. You should never be so consumed with politics you lose sight of your human compassion.

YEs...I noticed...one of the people who I HELPED when he was concerned for his own son's welfare during the fires here in So Cal decided to demonstrate some humanity....of course, after I demonstrated some he chose to slander me...what a big hearted guy he is :puke:
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:33 AM
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83. Actually
I've never understood their obsession with DU in particular. It's not like this is the only democratic or liberal site, and there are others much further left of this one.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:28 PM
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135. They're idiots
I'm sure they're having their laugh at this thread....

sarcasm

and we really, really should try to moderate what we write so that they will have respect for us as human beings.

/sarcasm

Seriously, though, they have the acumen of a paper bag, and the manners of a spoiled child (go look up "acumen," freepers!)

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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:25 PM
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187. Proof that they're idiots
They've devoted five pages to this thread. Self-righteousness is in no short supply among conservatives...

Hey freepers, did you count me among the well wishers?
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:01 PM
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179. They're STILL around???
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 10:02 PM by Fighting Irish
Haven't even seen their pitiful site in months. It just got pretty boring, even when I was trolling there with several accounts trying to stir up flame wars. Worked pretty well. Those clowns are pretty thin-skinned.

As far as Ms. Ingraham is concerned, I caught what loosely passes for a radio entertainment show once. It was snotty and mean-spirited, and brushed off that nonsense as yet another attempt at jumping on the conservative blabfest bandwagon. Nothing really compelling or interesting. I have no feeling either way as far as compassion or 'just desserts'. I don't really care about her at all. However, I don't wish breast cancer on anyone. Except for Ann Coulter, but she doesn't have any breasts. (BA DUM BUMP!)

(NOTE: The last line was pure sarcasm, ripe for cherry picking for loony wingnut message boards that have nothing better to do than obsess over DU.)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:43 PM
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168. And many renege on that sentiment...and become downright disgusting
in their comments. I've been there, I was able to even speak to a few. But one idiot can blot out ten good people in one fell swoop, sad as it may be. :hi:
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:01 AM
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207. hey there
long time no see
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:04 AM
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74. Why can't you? These comments on DU are absolutely
predictable. Every time someone with whom we disagree has a health problem or dies, the celebration begins.....
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:13 AM
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28. There are many others
with this terrible affliction who are much more deserving of sympathy. She's got all of konservative amerika praying for her. Who's praying for the single parent with cancer, or anyone else not in the media limelight for that matter? Those are the people I pray for. People like her sold their souls to the devil to get where they are. Let Lucifer comfort her in her time of trial and tribulation.
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:13 AM
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251. WHile I have never met LI..
... she at least sounds like she is an evil human, possibly heartless and most certainly insensitive.

That being said, she is still a human being, and therefore deserving of my prayers.

Upon her full recovery I fully expect her to return to her hate-filled vitriolic ways.

Do I expect my prayers will make a difference and affect her heart? Most probably not.

But my actions will certainly affect mine.

And I choose not to be ruled by hate.

Call me crazy...
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:14 AM
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29. I wish her speedy recovery
as I would any human being. That doesn't take away from what a mean-spirited human being she is.

Here's something I found weird on her website where she is thanking her support network, which includes:

a wonderful fiance (if he thinks he's going to get out of marrying me because of this little blib, he's sadly mistaken!)

Telling, perhaps? Didn't Newt leave his wife while she was seriously ill?
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:17 AM
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35. not to worry, unlike many Americans, she will get the best medical care
and, and unlike many Americans, the bills will not force her into bankruptcy.

She will be back to her mission of creating a two class America in no time.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:46 AM
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67. Excellent point
as our American society continues to lose the middle class and becomes more economically polarized, too many people will have to choose between adequate healthcare and paying for food and shelter. I read yesterday that the CEO of Blockbuster made over 51 million last year...despite his company having lost billions. This is the America we've become. Poor performance equals huge benefits. And the middle-class and lower-class have to worry about catastrophic illness erasing their bank accounts while the super-rich continue to fix the system to augment their unearned excessive rewards.
Laura has an illness plagueing thousands of American women. Fortunately for her, she doesn't have to endure the fear of losing her family's financial assets.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:17 AM
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36. I know someone w/breast cancer. Surprised her something fierce
Hopefully they caught this early enough and she and her family won't suffer terribly.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:18 AM
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38. I hope that she can overcome this.
Sorry to hear about that.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:19 AM
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39. I wish her a full and speedy recovery.
My sister-in-law had breast cancer a year and a half ago. It's a tough battle. My heart goes out to any woman who faces that.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:20 AM
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43. I hope she recovers
and I hope her politcal views become a dinosaur relic of a distant age.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:25 AM
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48. I'm glad she is admonishing women to have medical exams to head this
illness off at the pass.

Would that she and her ilk were more concerned about seeing that ALL women had the adequate medical coverage to make such vigilance possible.

I do hope she has a safe recovery and that her battle leaves her wiser.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:25 AM
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49. My Wife Was Recently Diagnosed Too.
Had a mastectomy in March and just had her first chemo treatment. Believe me, this is devastating medically and emotionally.

No matter what her political stripes, we in the "true" party of faith can find it in our hearts to wish her well, and pray for her family.

PS: We need a Breast Cancer Group on DU. I have at many times wanted to talk to someone who has gone through this. It really is a terrible thing, especially since we have two teenage daughters that now may also have this albatross around their necks.

It is just devastating, and she deserves our sympathy.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:27 AM
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53. Best wishes for your wife's successful and complete
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 10:28 AM by notsodumbhillbilly
recovery, maxrandb. This is a tremendous emotional burden on all of you. :hug:
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:33 AM
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57. maxrandb
Please feel free(you or your wife) to pm me. Mine was in January.
I like the idea of a group. My best to you and your wife. :hug:
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:42 AM
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65. Best Wishes and Prayers to You too
Can I ask you something. Do you ever not want anyone around? My wifes father and step-mom, plus my mom have offered to come and help us out while she goes through chemo.

My wife loves her family, but she doesn't want them to see her lose her hair, or be sick. I just can't wrap my arms around that. I try to understand, but I don't why she would not want the help.

I'm very supportive, and if she doesn't want them here, then they aren't coming, but did you ever feel the same? That you didn't want people to see you when you were sick?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:54 AM
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71. I didn't want people around because I was afraid of the flu.
I'm going to pm ya, ok?
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:08 AM
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262. Don't let her hide out at home all the time...
avoiding everyone who loves her. I always thought my hair was my best feature, so the week it was due to start falling out, I cut it really short. It made it easier to take when it started sliding down (in big horrifying handfuls) my back in the shower! I'd always loved hats but never had the nerve to wear them out of the house, so I used it as an opportunity to learn how to wear them with confidence. I bought and was given pretty scarves in my favorite colors. Take her hat and scarf shopping now if she hasn't started losing her hair yet, that way she'll have them when it does. I bought a wig, but I only wore it twice. It was too scratchy and uncomfortable for me. But take her wig shopping too, if she wants one. Your insurance might even pay for it.
I don't know what her chemo cocktail is, but she may not be very sick. The doctors will give her anti nausea meds, but watch out for them. In my case they caused some side effects that were really unpleasant (headaches and constipation that even prune juice could'nt cure). And I was still nauseous all the time. Finally I just quit them and went the natural way of the ganja. That's what I recommend, since it also helps with appetite. In my case it also helped with my mood. It's kind of hard to be depressed when you're laughing, and laughter is good for your immune system.
There were times that I wanted to be alone, and I was. And I didn't want people staying at my house doing everything like I was an invalid. That may be where she's coming from on that subject.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:11 PM
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119. You are so right
I only went through thinking that I may have breast cancer, a biopsy proved that wasn't the case, but even that was devastating. I cannot imagine what you and your wife are going through. I don't care what her politics are, she is still a human being and we should have enough sense not to piss on people while they're down.

Prayers and good wishes to you and your wife. May she be whole again soon.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:33 PM
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162. Praying for you and your wife
I'll join the DU support group...

I'm a 6 year survivor, dia at age 44 with aggressive bc that didn't show up on a mammogram til late. Like many other women, I did everything right - ran 30 miles a wk, didnt smoke, breast fed, etc., etc. Two kids 12 and 8.

When I got the news, my hubby started to faint. I was more worried about him than myself.

We got through 12 months of very aggessive treatment 4 cycles of ACF, bilateral mastectomy, 4 cycles of Taxotere and 27 radiation treatments.

I just got back from lobbying at the Statehouse to get Medicaid coverage for uninsured breast cancer patients. My marriage is stronger as a result of my cancer and my family (already close) is even closer.

Here are some helpful hints and links for you as hubby:

1 Be quiet and listen. To her complaints, her stories, her fears, and her feelings.
2 Don't be a 24-7 cheerleader. Sure, in theory it's good to look on the bright side. But studies show that women who express all their emotions cope better with the stress of treatment.
3 Follow her lead. You can share your views about treatment options, but she's the boss.
4 Be her appointment pal. Unless she strenuously objects, go with her to doctor's appointments whenever possible. Ask how you can be most helpful: by keeping track of her questions, taking notes or taping the session, or just holding her hand.
5 Ask for a to-do list. That goes for household chores as well as cancer issues.
6 Don't be afraid to joke around. Laughing at cancer is one way to lessen the stress you're both feeling--as long as your wife doesn't take offense.
7 Take a break from cancer. Whenever possible, get out of the house--for an overnight trip, a dinner out, a movie. Or rent a DVD if your wife isn't up to an excursion. You'll both feel better.
8 Keep intimacy alive. Even if your wife's not in the mood for sex because of surgery, chemo, or radiation, she might love a back rub or a foot massage.
9 Flowers. They work wonders--something lovely in the midst of a not-so-lovely time.
10 Recharge your batteries. With your wife's OK, do something you enjoy--shoot hoops, ride a bike, play poker.
11 Find a confidant. Pour your heart out to a friend or call the Y-ME breast cancer hotline at (800) 221-2141. It has husbands on call.
12 Be prepared for a New Normal. After treatment, even if your wife seems OK, she may still be worried about recurrence or just not feeling herself. Show a little empathy.

http://www.natlbcc.org /

http://www.susanlovemd.com /


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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:18 AM
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257. I had a mastectomy in Aug 1997 at the age of 38 and then chemo:
I pray for you, your wife and your family. You will get thru this, and your family will be stronger for it. I don't have enough posts to PM you, but please PM me if you want to talk. I'd be happy to give you my phone number if I could help.

I also pray for LI, even though she is a partisan twit with more looks than sense.

ElizabethEdwards, I've also been praying for you. The last I had heard you were doing well and I hope that continues to be true. I'm so thrilled that you're a DU'er! Your husband was my Senator and I miss him terribly.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:29 AM
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55. Laura's going to be just fine.
She's probably booking a plane to Bangkok for treatment and she'll return with a whole new perspective. :sarcasm:

I think it's sad for anyone to have to go through cancer. Her conservative propaganda isn't worth my time, but I realize she has friends and family who must be devistated by the news.

Beyond that, I'll just say I hope everything works out for the best. :)
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:30 AM
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56. I'm Not Surprised
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 10:34 AM by CO Liberal
Judging by the amount of hatred she spews on a daily basis, I'm surprised her body has lasted THIS long.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:37 AM
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59. So by that standard, any woman that has breast cancer
is doing something wrong?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:35 AM
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84. No, Not By a Long Shot
But when a person has that much hatred, it often manifests itself in physical ailments. For example, my first wife had so much hatred against me and resentment against society in general for the way she was treated for being a lesbian, she died of heart and kidney failure at age 46.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:47 PM
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112. No---people are making broad-brush statements concerning
breast cancer, not realizing(or realizing but not caring) that these comments are hurtful.
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TheOriginalAmerican Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:33 AM
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58. I'll be praying for her.
I wish no ill on people, even if I do think their politics are disgusting. You all should be the same way, especially in light of the fact that people from the other side showed that same kindness to one of our own members just a few days ago. Really you all. This is disgusting.

I won't change my politics over this, but I think I will work toward reform toward the obvious hatred of some on the left. Of course, I do not mean this for those aren't showing hatred for her on here.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:38 AM
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61. Well, I hope she gets better.
That's all I will say on the subject.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:39 AM
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62. Can't stand her, but hope she recovers soon
and I hope the experience opens her mind to tolerance.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:42 AM
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64. And below that, the deception continues
Did you folks happen to notice this blurb underneath her plea for prayers?

DEMOCRATS AND THE PARENT GAP: A new study published by the Progressive Policy Institute "admonishes Democrats to pay more attention to parental concerns about morally corrosive forces in the culture, and warns that the party will not fare better with this pivotal voting block until they do." Click here

It's not until you go into the article (Moonie Times, BTW) that you find out that the PPI is the think-tank bought and paid for by the "centrist" (my ass!) DLCellouts.

:mad: :mad: :argh:

<sigh>... I still wish this woman a safe recovery :eyes:
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:20 PM
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106. Exactly
I'm into reality, which means that while, on one hand, I wish Ms. Ingraham a speedy recovery, and do not wish her ill, WHATSOEVER, her illness will not make me forget that she's a vidette for the gestapo, a hateful, spiteful person, a slinger of logical fallacies and generally all-around revolting individual.

Get well soon, Laura. But you still suck.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:44 AM
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66. I pray she wins over this disease & that the struggle helps
to open her eyes to the suffering of others.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:49 AM
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69. I second that emotion. Seen too many friends and relatives struggle
and die with that shit, I don't even wish it on Rush, Sean, etc.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:11 PM
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150. I don't wish this disease on anyone...
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 09:11 PM by calipendence
Just don't get Rush or his "hired help" to help her get drugs.

She should get a real doctor, and a real counselor that can also help cure her mental cancer in addition to the treatment for the physical cancer.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:04 AM
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75. I hope she gets better, but I hope her career is ruined by this...
She is scum.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:10 AM
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79. I really hate to hear that
It's a terrible thing for anyone to deal with. I wish her all the best and I hope she's grateful for having excellent health care. Not everyone is so fortunate.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:16 AM
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80. another one of these threads............
i wish laura the best.

i am sure she has the healthcare that she needs.

flame bait anyone?
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Oldpals Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:51 PM
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140. Cancer
Anyone that has either experienced this horrific disease personally, or who has a loved one that has should take their hate for Ingraham, and put it aside to wish her well. This is above politics.
I am as much a devoted liberal as the rest of you and anyone that has seen me post about these so called pundits would know that. However, those that have this lack of empathy for a person who is stricken with disease and can't abide the thought of wishing them solace and comfort, is working on a different level to me. It is beyond politics when your hate is that profound.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:25 AM
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82. Save Your Prayers-Only Atwater has died.
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 11:26 AM by GalleryGod
We lose Wellstone and others...whilst Limbaugh,Falwell, and believe me, Laura La-La-La will be CURED and go marching on!

B4 you pray for La-La recall her venomous blasts and braying against the Wellstone family.

:shrug: :puke: :nopity:
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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:36 AM
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85. It may not change her mind, but here is what I am doing......
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 11:41 AM by demgurl
there is a 'Contact Us' area at the bottom of her home page. I am going to write to her and tell her I am a democrat but that I hope she gets to feeling better. It may not change the world if a lot of us were to do this, but it certainly could not hurt any. This country is divided enough as it is, it hardly needs nay more division. Perhaps with treatment and a lot of people writing to her, from the left side, she may come to soften a bit or see that we really are not the enemy. Just my thoughts and two cents worth. The healing of our country has to begin somewhere. I have been here a while and know most all of you are good people. Here is a chance for you all to do something. Are you going to sit there or write?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:51 AM
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92. I agree--we need to demonstrate that we firmly disagree with their/her
policies/ideology--but not hate her/them.

I hate war and what it does to both sides but not people per say-dispickable as some of them are.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:37 AM
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87. She has been a very strong advocate for the tobacco industry
I suggest she ask them for her lungs back...I'm sure she spent plenty of their money in her day.
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:40 AM
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88. I do not like her, but I wish her well. nt
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:41 AM
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89. Go To Her Web Site and DU Her Poll
It's on the left side of the page. Current results:

Who is winning the PR battle on the issue of judges, judicial confirmations?

Democrats 69%

Republicans 31%

:kick:


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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:46 AM
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91. The Bio on her Web Site Tells You All you Need to Know About Laura
Underlining emphasis mine:

After graduating from Dartmouth College, Laura worked as a speechwriter in the final two years of the Reagan Administration at the White House, the Department of Transportation and the Department of Education. She went on to graduate from the University of Virginia School of Law, where she was Notes Editor of the Law Review. She served as a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and Ralph K. Winter on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. After clerking, Laura worked as a white-collar criminal defense attorney for Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom. Laura launched "The Laura Ingraham Show" in 2001.

In addition to hosting her own syndicated radio program, Laura is an author, frequent columnist, and television commentator. Her latest book, Shut Up & Sing: How the Elites in Hollywood, Politics...and the UN are Subverting America is a bestseller. Her book The Hillary Trap, first released in June 2000, was recently re-released in an updated paperback version. She hopes to become the person her dog Troy thinks she is.

http://www.lauraingraham.com/pg/jsp/general/aboutlaura....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:55 AM
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93. her poll is at 68% Dems are winning the PR (done slightly from a few days
ago)
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:58 AM
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95. What is it now: One in six, seven, or eight women
who gets breast cancer? The number has been going down for decades, so it is not surprising at all to me that ANOTHER TV personality has this horrible disease.

Good luck, Laura - you are SOOOOO not alone, in fact, you have a lot of company.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:13 PM
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101. I wish her all the best in this difficult time. My views are 100% opposite
hers -- but nonetheless, I wish her a speedy recovery and a return to full health.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:19 PM
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103. Oh.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:19 PM
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104. Why should I care?
I don't.

RL
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:19 PM
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105. May she have healing, in all respects.
May the doctors, nurses and other medical professionals be as thorough and as wise as possible, and may Laura Ingraham grow as a person through this. Maybe she'll be more open to others as a result of experiencing firsthand the suffering of a cancer patient.

Yes, I will pray for her. I did like her cheeky attitude about not letting her fiance out of marrying her! A sense of humor is a must for anyone with a serious illness.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:23 PM
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126. If he's anything like Newt Gingrich
he's already outta there.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:23 PM
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108. I hope this will help her to learn a little compassion towards others
I'm sure her view of life will change after this. I hope it's for the better.

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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:38 PM
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110. It Looks Like She Learned All She Knows About Compassion...
...by working in the Reagan Administration and as a law clerk for Clarence Thomas.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:37 PM
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109. I hope it reminds women to get checked out/prayers for her
I hope for her sake, they got it early. There is so much they can do if the cancer is caught early.

Because she's in the media, especially because she sometimes appears on the male-oriented FOX news, I hope she speaks out publicly and reminds women to get theirs checked out.
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doubleplusgood Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 12:56 PM
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113. no prayers, but I'll meditate on Darwin for her
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 01:00 PM
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114. Hope she gets the care her party would deny most of us.
Speedy recovery, Laura, you're more fun ripping into alive.
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korak Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:01 PM
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116. wish and info
Hopefully,she will survive and looking death in the face will have some improving effect.

from Wikipedia:

Laura Ingraham (born January 1, 1965 in Glastonbury, Connecticut)

Unmarried, Ingraham once was engaged to conservative author Dinesh D'Souza and has dated former United States Senator Robert Torricelli of New Jersey. (eeewwwwwww!)

She is a Roman Catholic.



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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:07 PM
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117. No ill wished here
Sickness affects everyone around you and I pray that she and her family will make it through this okay.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:08 PM
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118. I hope she gets the same quality health care
that she believes the poorest person in America should be entitled to.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:13 PM
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120. Why are you posting this?
Are you a fan of Laura's? Clearly you frequent her website.
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TheOriginalAmerican Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:16 PM
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122. That's uncalled for.
Keeping up with the news is not the same as being a fan of somebody, neither is showing compassion toward a person in their time of illness.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:27 PM
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127. Why is it uncalled for? He linked to her website.
I just like to know where people are coming from. Can't be too careful.
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TheOriginalAmerican Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:41 PM
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193. Being too careful does not mean......
suggesting that somebody might be a conservative. Do you not realize that people get banned on here for that? What if the moderators took you seriously?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 01:53 PM
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286. Then my post would be deleted.
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 01:55 PM by MyPetRock
It's still here, so I guess that says something.
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:15 PM
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121. A newcomer's take
I just wish on her the same level of health care she thinks is acceptable for the poor. If she makes it through, so be it - and if not, what goes around comes around.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:20 PM
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124. Welcome...
...and DAMN YOU! I was all set to change my handle to Ron Mexico the next time the mods allowed it.

And good point, too.
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:35 PM
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132. Sorry, Ron2 :))))
I detest the Falcons, so it didn't take much effort to come up with the name. And if Vick really did knowingly infect a girl with an STD, I detest him as well.

As for Ingraham, I don't wish her bad or good, just the same level of indifference she wishes on the less affluent.

Thanks for the welcome. :)
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:22 PM
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125. I didn't shed a tear for Barbara Olsen
and I won't work up too much sympathy for Ingraham.

Karma's a bitch, ain't it?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:32 PM
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129. come on now, stop that
she is a nasty piece of work but that is a terrible thing to say.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:33 PM
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130. I wish she would call on Benny Hinn and other right wing
charlatans who have been bilking old ladies out of their S.S. checks for years to PUBLICLY heal her. Sorry, your faith just isn't strong enough...gotta send more money$$$$$

But, I do wish her a speedy recovery and a changed heart.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:34 PM
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131. May she live so I can oppose her views longer
:evilgrin:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:42 PM
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134. No. Can't do it. n/t
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footinmouth Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:28 PM
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136. Some of the things I've read here today make me very ashamed
I can't believe some of the comments I've read here today. Shame on you. I watched my own mother struggle with this disease and her last 4 months were a living hell. I wish Ms. Ingraham the best, she's got a tough road ahead of her. She will need a lot of inner strength and a strong support system. I hope she beats this.

I thought we were the party of compassion. Does this only apply to people who agree with our views? We should feel free to debate her politics, but to wish harm or misery on another human being is just all kinds of wrong.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:31 AM
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260. Me too
And even after EE came in and put us all to shame with her graciousness, the hate still spews.

Interesting that most of the posts seem to equate the idea that she has cancer (or deserves it) because of all her hate and the same posters can't see what their own hate is doing to them.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:29 PM
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137. I'll say a prayer for a sick person with no money...
...in her name.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:40 PM
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138. well if that ain't a big old karma-bus
hitting you square in the pants.

she doesn't make my prayer list tho.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:40 PM
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139. Will should have mentioned a lot of these responses
in his thread.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:02 PM
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141. I hope any people gloating over this get breast cancer.
Or nuts cancer if you are a man.

NOTE: This post is sarcastic.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 04:15 PM
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142. Why pray? She's rich. She's conservative. She has health care.
Methinks she'll be fine....Unlike all those people who go to work every day and can't afford health care because they were stupid enough not to have been born rich.
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ElizabethEdwards Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:08 PM
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181. Completely inappropriate
I cannot believe you mean this.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 06:36 PM
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146. What's CU? And will you please post links to verify assertions.
You won't get much credibility here by simply posting vile accusations against other members. You also might want to try our spell check feature.
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voltairine Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 05:57 PM
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145. Some pretty hateful words here
I am appalled at how mean-spirited so many of these posts have been. Makes me wonder about the several that were deleted. I also notice a lack of direct quotes from Ms Ingraham that could enlighten us as to how and why she is so very very very evil. Or are we just supposed to take your word for it? Tolerance for me, but not for thee?

Signing off, don't think I wanna hang out here after all.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 06:38 PM
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147. See ya.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:20 PM
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158. How About This For A Direct Quote?
From chapter one of her "best selling" :rofl: "The Hillary Trap"

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/i/ingraham-hillary.h...

<SNIP>
Perhaps the most frightening of these claims is that the male-dominated American medical establishment has been willfully neglecting women's health. It's a charge that Hillary Rodham Clinton made in a July 1993 appearance at a fundraiser for a breast cancer screening center at UCLA. She brought a mostly female crowd nearly to tears, and to deafening applause, when she described the "unfair emotional burden inflicted on women because of the inequities of the system." But the real kicker was her claim that women have been discriminated against in the all-important world of medical research. "We have been on the medical and scientific sidelines," she complained.

Hillary wasn't breaking any new ground. In 1991, a bipartisan group of women in Congress charged that women were victims of systematic discrimination in medicine. "One of the reasons our hormones rage is that we're so often written off and trivialized," proclaimed liberal Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD). Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME) seconded her Democratic sister: "There is a bias in federal research," she stated. "Medical research is largely done and conducted on men." As evidence, the congresswomen cited the fact that only thirteen percent of the total research budget of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) was devoted to diseases affecting women and that major federally funded heart disease studies had used exclusively men as participants. Representative Patricia Schroeder (D-CO) painted an ominous picture of the "boys' club" ignoring female health problems. "People tend to fund what they fear first," she opined in a television interview. "A majority of the House and Senate and other people never feared breast cancer, ovarian cancer, osteoporosis, so we feel they've been underfunded." The accusation sent shivers through the spine of many a male legislator. How would they respond when a female constituent asked, "Are you one of those politicians who don't care about women's health?"

No one wanted to be so "insensitive" as to point out that if thirteen percent of all federal medical research dollars went to specifically female health problems, a mere seven percent was earmarked for men's diseases such as prostate and testicular cancer. Eighty percent of the money was going to the study of diseases that affect both sexesincluding heart disease, which kills ten times as many women annually as does breast cancer, and lung cancer, which has killed more women than breast cancer in every year since 1989. That didn't stop Hillary Clinton from declaring at the 1993 fundraiser at UCLA, "If we have technology sophisticated enough to direct missiles to targets thousands of miles away, then we have technology sophisticated enough to detect every fatal lump in a woman's breast." (Leave it to Hillary to turn health care into a struggle between the Pentagon and women's breasts!) Never mind that we also don't have technology sophisticated enough to distinguish a lethal fast-growing prostate tumor from a slow-growing one that does not require surgery.

In fact, it's interesting to note that between 1981 and 1985, long before women's health was turned into a political issue, five federal dollars were spent on breast cancer for every dollar spent on prostate cancer. By 1997, when prostate cancer claimed almost as many victims as breast cancer (41,800 versus 43,900), NIH spent more than $410 million on breast cancer research compared to a paltry $105 million for prostate cancer. So is it time for a Men's Health Equity Act?

</SNIP>

Yep, sweetness and light. As far as I'm concerned she should keep her mouth shut about this and suffer in silence.

Jay

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:45 PM
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170. OMG. Karma.
It's biting her in the butt.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:56 PM
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177. If You Didn't Read It...
you wouldn't believe it.

Jay

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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:25 AM
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258. It is ironic, isn't it?
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 09:26 AM by Jai4WKC08
But don't be too quick to blame Karma. Breast cancer hits women, and sometimes men, who care very much about and work very hard for medical research and universal health care.

I know you know that. I just wanted to put in my plug for EVERY woman to do self-exams and get those mammograms. I got a couple years behind in mine, but when a friend of mine was diagnosed, I decided I'd better get on the ball. Sure enough, I had calcifications in both breasts, and one of the them biopsied to be ductal carcinoma in situ.

I was incredibly lucky. Found it early, got rid of it fairly simply. Only some preventative radiation and no drugs needed. Still getting rechecked every 6 months now--what a pain, but beats the hell out the alternative.

So PLEASE, every woman on DU take a lesson, ok?

We need your votes. :evilgrin:

And nice to see you around again, incognito! :hi:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:47 PM
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173. BYE! If you want Ingraham quotes...GOOGLE is your friend.
See ya! Don't let the door hit ya on your way out. :hi:
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TheOriginalAmerican Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:45 PM
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195. Do you not realize?
Hate like this is what is making us lose elections. Our ideal policies are better than Republicans, but that does not mean crap in a country that cares more about charisma and whether somebody seems hateful. Some of the people in this thread seem hateful. This has to stop if we are going to win elections again. I understand this is only a message board, but how many of you all act this way in real life?
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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:23 PM
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205. Do you realize how absurd that sounds?
Don't try to turn the responses of a select few posters into an explanation as to why the Republicans are in power. You know damn well that there is hate on both sides of the aisle.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:48 AM
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233. You're kidding, right? Hatefulness seems to have worked well for
the repukes. Laura Ingraham has done nothing but spew vile, nasty, anti-Dem HATRED since she participated in the attempted take down of Clinton. She DOESN'T just "seem" hateful. She IS hateful. She's hate personified.

How do you think she became a "RW celebrity?" Her mug started appearing on every network when she was working behind the scenes on the 8 year witch hunt against Bill Clinton. Don't lecture people on hatred as long as the RWer's are spewing it. We need to start fighting fire with fire. We need to stop taking knives to a gunfight. THAT is how we got to where we are...THE MINORITY in Congress. Playing nice with these RW wacko nut jobs will NOT work and SHE is one of the last people I would ever pray for.

I'll pray for our troops who have been maimed in Iraq.

I will pray for the soldiers who have died in Iraq.

I will pray for the families who have lost a loved one fighting in Iraq.

I will pray for the 100,000 innocent Iraqi citizens who have been MURDERED by people like Laura Ingraham.

I will pray for the people in this country who will starve because of social programs that have been eliminated because of people like Laura Ingraham.

I will pray for our homeless Veterans who have had their benefits cut because of people like Laura Ingraham.

I will pray for the elderly who can't afford to buy their medicines AND food because of people like Laura Ingraham.

I will pray for people who can't afford medical insurance because of people like Laura Ingraham.

I will pray for the innocent who get sick because of environmental chemicals released into our air and water because of people like Laura Ingraham.

I will pray for people like our very own Andy who has cancer. HE deserves our prayers.

Please. Don't lecture people on hatred when WE are barraged by it from the RW.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:13 PM
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151. Pretty Young For That Isn't She?
I know she's not a kid, but isn't it rare for a woman her age to have breast cancer?

Just seems fairly young to me.


BTW: I can loathe her without wishing her ill. But, i don't pray. So, what was your point again?
The Professor
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Pissed_Progressive Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:17 PM
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155. Couldn't have happened to a kinder, sweeter, more gentle...
HARPY!!!!! It would be absolutely terrible if she choked on her own vomit while under anesthesia!!! I'm praying, I'm praying, I'm praying...
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:17 PM
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156. I don't like her but
I hope she gets better.
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:26 PM
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159. I Will Pray For Her
Guys, it doesn't f'in matter that she is a RW idiot. She is still a human being for God's sake. I may hate her politics, but that gives me no reason to wish illness upon her. That makes no sense and is totally immoral in my view.

Come on now, I know DU is better than this. I've seen it way too many times. Just think about it...
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:30 PM
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161. I Find It Strange That Only A Few Posters...
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 09:31 PM by jayfish
have wished her ill, outright, yet we have all of this crying. As a matter of fact I was surprised at the overall tone of this thread. I expected much harsher treatment. What am I missing :shrug:

Jay


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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:41 PM
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166. I hope she beats it. n/t.
One more survivor is one more blow to the beast that is cancer.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:47 PM
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172. I'm going to wish her a full and speedy recovery
HOWEVER, I also do so with the hope that she will use this life altering experience to revisit some of the hateful, mean-spirited things she has said over the years about a lot of people who did not deserve it.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:00 PM
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178. when I hear that someone has cancer I don't ask their politics
While I think a majority of the posts in this thread have expressed a similar view, I disappointed in the remarks of the minority. If the freepers (and I have no idea whether they did or not) had said some of the same things I've read here about Elizabeth Edwards and her fight against breast cancer, most of us would rightfully expressed outrage at their lack of humanity. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer three months after we were married and it was the most frightening thing either of us have ever had to endure. She's been doing great for 7 years now and I when I hear that someone has breast cancer (or any other form of cancer for that matter) I don't ask about their politics before I silently wish for them to beat the disease. I have no use for Ms Ingraham's politics but I'd rather defeat her ideas than have a disease beat her.

onenote
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FourStarDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 09:48 PM
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175. I won't wish her ill, nor pray for her..
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 09:49 PM by FourStarDemocrat
In my opinion, she's nothing but an amoral, sociopathic rightwing shill, and has been one for years. Her family and friends can pray for her, and that's fine, but there are far more important people in this world that I'd rather choose to spend my time and energy caring about.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:11 PM
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182. Even self-righteous, smarmy right-wing asshats deserve sympathy
when going through something like this.

May she recover quickly, and come through it with a greater degree of appreciation for the folks who don't have health insurance, and the weak, downtrodden, and less fortunate all over this land and planet.

And, may she come to understand that people like Michael Stipe and Bruce Springsteen have AT LEAST AS MUCH right to air their political views in public as she does.

So, Laura, Shut Up- And Get Better.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:15 PM
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:20 PM
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186. We should hope even Ingram doesnt suffer ...
As humanists and considerate progressives ....

Even then: trying to spank DUers for their hard feelings is a bit over the top .... and a useless exercise ....
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:29 PM
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188. Believe me, I'm familiar with both death AND cancer...
and the fact that she has cancer warrants sympathy-- but it doesn't grant her a free fucking pass on all the hateful shit she's spewed over the years.

Yeah, I hope she gets better- and I hope she gets a fucking clue, too.
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TheOriginalAmerican Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:45 PM
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196. Well said.
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:29 PM
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189. Maybe she doesn't want prayers from the left...n/t
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:32 PM
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190. I'm so glad we have single-payer health care.
So that Laura can get the medical attention she needs without risking personal bankruptcy.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:32 PM
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191. Who the fuck is Laurie Ingraham?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:35 PM
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192. You mean to say you never watched "Little House on the Prairie"?
:crazy:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:02 PM
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199. Fuck no...hate TV...broke mine with the remote...ground my kid every time
I catch the damn thing on and it's not on the history channel, animal planet or cooking channel.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:14 PM
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202. That was a joke--- and a poor attempt at one, at at that.
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 11:14 PM by impeachdubya
But I'm with you- it's discovery channel, history channel, or nothing, for me-- I used to watch cable news but last year it became so obnoxious that I had to cut it off at the CNNMSNBCETC.

FYI, Laura Ingraham was one in a seemingly endless series of smarmy, snotty, Clinton-hating blondes that was spawned from the same foul pit that offered up Ann Coulter. She is most recently known for spewing hate-venom on AM radio, and penning masterworks like last year's "Shut Up and Sing", where she forcefully argues that any celebrity or musician that doesn't share her political opinions should be denied their rights under the first amendment.

Oh, yeah, and we wish her a speedy recovery.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:25 PM
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206. Fuck is a common word with me...I took no offense at your joke.
If she is an A.C. type, no wonder I don't know her or care to! Don't have time for the likes of such vile indespicableness...sure we wish her a speedy recovery! :toast:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 01:32 AM
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218. Oh, me too. But I really DO wish her a speedy recovery.
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 01:34 AM by impeachdubya
Just because she has her head up her ass doesn't mean she's not deserving of compassion.

I just hope that the experience opens her up to compassion for others, like the 45 million Americans with no health insurance.. but I won't hold my breath.

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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:43 PM
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194. In looking at her website, I saw these links:
"DC Hospice
www.capitalhospice.org

The mission of Capital Hospice is to improve care for those facing life-limiting illness through direct support of patients and their families, public education and public advocacy.


Whitman-Walker Clinic
www.wwc.org


Whitman-Walker Clinic is a non-profit community-based health organization serving the Washington, D.C. metropolitan region. Established by and for the gay and lesbian community, our Clinic is comprised of diverse volunteers and staff who provide or facilitate the delivery of high quality, comprehensive, accessible health care and community services. Whitman-Walker Clinic is especially committed to ending the suffering of all those infected and affected by HIV/AIDS."

I never heard of her before but if her only offense is that she's bitchy towards dems and liberals, she shouldn't be condemned like that. She's no Ann Coulter.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 10:51 PM
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197. "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
is what Jesus said.

It ain't easy sometimes, I know, but we're obligated to try.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #197
200. In short
somebody lock this thing before any bad karma spreads
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:11 PM
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201. Thank you , Lydia LC.
Very well said IMHO.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 11:23 PM
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204. Laura Ingraham is definitely one person who can get under your skin with
Edited on Tue Apr-26-05 11:27 PM by Blue_Roses
her rwing rhetoric, but this is sad. I believe that there's always a lesson to be learned out of every crisis, but whether we see what that lesson is and use to help others is the true test of one's character. I find it hard to believe that someone can go through something this traumatic and not feel a change somewhere in their soul...

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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:24 AM
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209. If we can use her absence from the media
to Democratic strategic advantage, great; otherwise, who cares?
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:25 AM
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210. Perhaps this experience will open her eyes
She will be able to understand the plight of the tens of millions w/o health insurance (I'm guessing she HAS health insurance). She will become a vocal advocate for health care reform!!!!


If not, so be it. The ignorant are blind to reality.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 01:25 AM
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217. I don't pray for Nazis or other Totalitarian Scum
They have caused too much pain to others.

On the other hand, perhaps I will do a bit of praying.

Yes, that she share, appropriately, the wing of Hell populated by Hitler's lower managmement, radio personalities, and writers from the Ministry of Propaganda.

Which is where her soul belongs in the Afterlife.

Excuse me, I have some praying to do.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:44 AM
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224. Deleted message
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:20 AM
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220. First time I ever visited her website...
She's right about the sisterhood of breast cancer survivors... in that sisterhood, she is in my prayers... sending positive, healing energy her way.



She's also right about mammograms not detecting all breast cancers & the importance of monthly BSE's... please take note.


Now, on the 'politics' side, be sure to vote in her poll:

'Who is winning the PR battle on the issue of judges, judicial confirmations?'

Current results:

Democrats 61%
Republicans 39%



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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 02:33 AM
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222. May she have a full and complete healing, of body and mind
Underneath the layers of hate, there is invariably someone very small, very hurt, and very scared. Cancer is a rough thing to face, but those who go through it sometimes find themselves healing on levels they had not expected.

Tucker
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 03:53 AM
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225. self-delete
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 03:57 AM by NightOwwl
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 04:33 AM
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226. Best of luck to her.
}(
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progressor Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 05:32 AM
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228. Anyone who said "No"...
...is not a true liberal or progressive or Christian or Jew or Muslim or Buddhist or anything. We are supposed to be compassionate, understanding, and nurturing, not hateful and spiteful.

I've been visiting this site for months. Posting now and then when I'm bored at work, but I've noticed a lot of hate echoing through these boards. It does not bode well for those of us on the left.

I've begun to realize that there is just as much knee-jerk, blind, reactionary bullshit on our side as there is on the right. I'll have none of it. If we can't look past someone's political beliefs to empathize with their human weaknesses and difficulties, then we're absolutely lost. Grow up and have some sympathy for ALL people, not just those whose beliefs and thoughts are in line with your own. Regardless of her opinions, Ms. Ingraham is a human being.

I'm sick of reading these comments on a daily basis. And I, for one, am leaving permanently.

Don't bother flaming. I won't read it.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:23 AM
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229. I agree
we have to show people that we're better than that. Think of that one person out there, on the fence, looking for a party with real compassion because the only thing he sees from "compassionate conservatives" lately is a bloodlust that discusts him. This would be a great time for DUer's to extend positive and hopeful vibes to our worthy adversary as fellow members of the human race and citizens of the United States despite our different beliefs.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:30 AM
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231. Oh Well... See Ya! So Long! Adios! Ciao! Au revoir!
<< I've begun to realize that there is just as much knee-jerk, blind, reactionary bullshit on our side as there is on the right. I'll have none of it. If we can't look past someone's political beliefs to empathize with their human weaknesses and difficulties, then we're absolutely lost. Grow up and have some sympathy for ALL people, not just those whose beliefs and thoughts are in line with your own. Regardless of her opinions, Ms. Ingraham is a human being. >>

And have you also noticed that despite the other side's "bullshit" they are stronger than ever and win every single time?

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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:47 AM
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232. oh, but we'll miss our One True Arbiter of Liberalism
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:52 AM
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234. Bye!
:hi: Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:04 AM
Response to Reply #228
247. Oh, gee, I guess you told me, didn't you.
See ya!
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #228
263. Thank you for making a blanket judgement...
but you are wrong. Anger towards someone who has done nothing but bad does not disqualify one from being a "liberal or progressive or Christian or Jew or Muslim or Buddhist or anything."

I won't pray for her, because I don't pray. Reading the posts on this thread, I completely sympathize with the anger. And reading posts from others who are better able to channel their anger in the moment and help us all reflect on ourselves is valuable for us all.

Chastizing people for expressing their emotions doesn't accomplish a thing.

You've been here since January, shortly after one of the most agonizing periods of our collective lives. If you judge this site by certain posts under certain circumstances and ignore all the good sentiments and worthwhile information here, the loss is yours.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:25 AM
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230. Pity.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:36 AM
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241. hope she gets better. nt
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:36 AM
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242. Sorry,
People have to learn that what you put out in your life comes back to you, so be very careful what you say and do to others. I wish her no ill, but she's on her own with this. Besides, I'm sure all the fundies out there will heal her, after all they know God personally don't they.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:09 AM
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249. Like they say, behind every great man is an even better woman!!
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 08:16 AM by Tesla
Elizabeth Edwards, you are a great woman.

Having recently gone through breast cancer YOURSELF, I can see where your compassion for this woman is.
(and where it isn't on this thread)


Really, every woman dreads the diagnosis,and sweats out their mammogram results.

I believe we create our reality, and on a higher level, you and Ms. I chose the same path to tread.

Your compassion in this matter may lighten her heart to the sisterhood women have.

Peace, Love, and Light, to you and your beautiful family.

May God find a place for you in our future, we need folks like you up there.

There is good and evil in everything, we have been seeing the evil part of our government, it is time we see the good again.

Thank you for your time on DU.
We love having you here!!!!


News this morning on Breast Cancer!!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/science/story/0,12996,14...
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:07 AM
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256. Egads. What an ugly thread.
I hope the disease hasn't metastasized -- from Free Republic to Democratic Underground.

--p!
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:02 AM
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275. You said it.
Are these our true colors? God, I hope not.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:42 AM
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:47 AM
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267. Welcome to DU. A suggestion...
read the entire thread before you post. Otherwise, it would almost seem as if you were TRYING to make this site look bad.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:54 AM
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271. i wonder who would "try" to make this site look bad..........
who could that possibly be............
i am completely stumped...............

:sarcasm:
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:57 AM
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274. I hope not. My dad died a few months ago
He had cancer, he died of an allergic reaction to one of his meds.

It was a painful death.

He was a wonderful man and too young (75) to leave.

He was a staunch Democrat (he voted for McGovern, granted we lived in MA! ;) ), supported Kerry/Edwards both with his vote and his pocketbook.

Nobody should die like my father did, not LI, not anybody.

I can't stand LI and what she stands for, however to paraphrase an old saying, I wouldn't wish a painful death on my worst enemy.

I hope she learns compassion from her struggles, and wish her the best in her fight.


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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:47 AM
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266. Check the posters profile.
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 10:48 AM by tjwash
That was flamebait and you you all swallowed the sinker. Somewhere on Free Republic, there is a thread started about this showing how hate filled everyone at DU is.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:49 AM
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268. And not one response since posting...
This is absolutely flamebait, and clearly engineered to bring out what it did.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:52 AM
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270. Flamebait Accomplished!
i don't know why people don't recognise these types of threads as flame bait authored merely "catch" people saying mean things.

:shrug:
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:14 AM
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278. One can only wonder
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 11:16 AM by notsodumbhillbilly
why so many go for the bait. I immediately saw the OP for what it was (post #23). The original post is comparable to posting a request for prayer for Clinton on FR.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:04 AM
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276. Yeah, I gathered that.
There are only a few as compared to the rest that had to be deleted. Some of them are probably freepers themselves.

It's like they are trying to prove to themselves that they aren't the only ones that are hateful. I also hope that Mrs. Edwards realize what was going on and hope it doesn't discourage her from returning to post here.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:19 AM
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279. Michelle Malkin can barely contain her glee
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:52 AM
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269. She's a gug..and I wish her well
few peopel if anyone deserves cancer. and to wish somebody's death is just so ..freeperish.

I hope that she learns empathy from this..but I doubt it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:09 AM
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277. Speaking of freepers.....here it is:
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scarlett1 Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:31 AM
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280. Breast cancer does not discriminate
It attacks women and yes men, but theirs is usually found quicker, Gay, like Melissa Ethridge and straight. Democrats and Republicans, Conservative and Liberal, Young and old and all of the people in between.
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Crago Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:47 AM
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282. If prayer worked....
I'd be rich, handsome and healthy!
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288. Locking......
This discussion has run its course.


DU Moderator.
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