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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:24 PM
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I feel sorry for "Jeff Gannon."
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 12:25 PM by Bouncy Ball
Yeah. Maybe I'm feeling a bit soft today and I'm not saying the guy isn't a major asshole. But I honestly think he has mental health issues. I know people throw that accusation around pretty freely about people, but I REALLY think he does.

Look at this picture:



We know he was never in the military, but he gets his hair cut in a high and tight and puts on some t-shirt with a military-looking symbol on it to convince people he was.

He has purchased dog tags and BDUs to pose for pictures in. Lies all over the place about having been in the Marines, despite the fact that he never was.

He sells himself for sex. Doesn't matter what kind of sex. But he trades money to have sex with people. Plasters nude pictures of himself on the internet so as to further the business of selling himself for sex.

He fancies himself a journalist, despite having no degree or formal training in journalism. In fact, despite having poor writing skills!

Then there was his appearance on C-SPAN recently, in which I became fully convinced there's something really wrong with him. He's so damn deluded. And that thing with the green map because his printer was running out of ink. I rarely ever feel embarrassed FOR a republican on TV, but damn, I came really close in those moments. He was just pathetic. And everyone was laughing at him.

The guy is unhinged. Delusional. And the REAL sticking point of this whole story is that the bush white house let this guy have access TO the white house and sit in on and ask questions in press briefings over and over for TWO YEARS. Whatever happened to security? Background checks? Clearance? Just IMAGINE for a second who else could be gaining access to the white house and other supposedly secure places without the bush administration giving a shit about it?

Let's just boil it down: a clearly delusional compulsive liar sex worker posed as a journalist and gained access to the white house for two years.

If that doesn't give you chills with regard to the bigger picture of security, nothing will.

I might feel a bit sorry for Gannon (just because it's clear to me he has mental health problems), but don't worry--I feel far sorrier for the rest of us regular Americans, with the bunch of evil incompetent boobs we have steering the ship of state straight to hell.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:27 PM
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1. I know what you mean, but...
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 12:29 PM by kiki
...you have to draw a line somewhere.

You think Chimpy himself is a model of mental health?

And convincing others/yourself that you're some sort of hardcore Special Forces marine seems to be an almost universal form of mental illness among young right-wing American males...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:31 PM
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6. Oh no Chimpy McCokespoon DEFINITELY has
mental health issues. Extreme narcissism being one of the biggest (everything is ALWAYS about him--even the Pope's funeral, for crying out loud).

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:17 PM
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37. man, you are hitting the nail on the head!
both with guckert and bush!
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:35 PM
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9. a response to being an oppressed powerless minority
oh wait, most of them are white middle class nerds who think of themselves as powerless (and oppressed).
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:37 PM
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11. This isn't a defence, but
as much as being shit on all your life, being told every day that "the world is yours" isn't exactly a recipe for a well-balanced state of mind either.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:48 PM
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19. (shudder) hardcore republican children
you know the kind -- just little stunted versions of the "grownups" who claim to be in charge now.

1. Everything is all about them
2. There are no rules that can't be broken
3. All your things are belong to me
4. Liable to dump a bucket of pigs blood on the prom queen, or whoever they feel like.
5. Anybody who enforces a budget or restrictions on spending is evil
6. They want their allowance but don't want to have to earn it
7. Wanted the dog but don't want to have to feed, walk or train it
8. Lose the report card if it's bad
9. Forge your signature and try to claim that you signed but must have forgotten - report cards, credit cards, checks

I am sure there are about a thousand more "indicators".

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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:50 PM
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22. This one cracked me up:
All your things are belong to me

:rofl:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:26 PM
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narcissism -- is this the psychological trend of our time?
i've been reading a lot about narcissism lately and every week there seems to be another book published on the topic.

i know from talking to my friends who are teachers that the problem with most "problem kids" is their narcissistic parents. no time to enforce the rules. their kids are "special." the rules don't apply to them. kids eventually get to high school believing this shit and can't compete with kids who have discipline and KNOW they aren't the center of the universe.

you bullet point about dogs is particularly apropos. i have no kids but do a lot of work with dogs and have 2 of my own. there's no such thing as a bad dog, or an untrainable dog. there's good owners and owners who won't spend the time to train a dog to be a good pet. i know it's diminutive, but i think of parents like this -- they either spend the time to socialize their children to be successful or they don't. The bushes didn't. W was a classic out-of-control man-child. now he's an out-of-control world leader -- or more accurately, puppet for poppy.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:28 PM
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2. So do I.
I always did.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:28 PM
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3. I do see your point
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 12:29 PM by FreedomAngel82
but he could've come clean long ago. He could've told what he was doing there and spilt his guts but he continued to lie. He lied about being in the military which, to me, is offensive to people who were/are in the military and worked their asses off while he uses the military to make himself macho for sex. He also stole other people's work and claimed it as his own. Don't forget he has a lot of tax's he hasn't paid while he is a shrill for the rightwing while other families are working hard to keep food on the table, clothe themselves and any other family members involved and to have a nice warm bed at night. I think he knows his ass is caught and he's trying to save it by playing the deluded game to make us look like consperiacy theorists and we all know how people are to folks like that.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:31 PM
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5. Well, I must not have felt TOO sorry for him.
Your post evaporated what little I had.

The posing as military thing pisses me off, too.

The taxes are really bad. I had forgotten about that. Is the state he owes it to (Delaware?) going to go after him for it???
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:28 PM
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4. I will feel worse
for him when we find out he was Bush's lover.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:32 PM
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7. Yikes.
He'll be universally hated by all.

But I do think more focus should be on bush et al. THEY are the ones doing the REAL damage to this country.

That's not to say we can't focus on more than one person. But let's not lose focus on bush. Evil little asshole.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:40 PM
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17. could of been
Laura's too! Could of been sleep with a SS guy. I don't even care that he's gay.

I believe in Karma, What you sow you reap! All of his lies have caught up with him.

All I can say with certainty, BushINC and reps alike are starting to look like the lil boy who stuck his finger in a damn, but the holes keep right on busting out. (no puns or slurs intended of course =p )



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dxdem Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:38 PM
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14. And when we do find out
he was feeding chimpy bananas, 10 to 1 it won't blow up HALF as big as Clinton's mistake.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:36 AM
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47. LOL! HARD!
"feeding chimpy bananas"... god, that's good...
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:33 PM
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8. yes pity can be devastating
I feel the same way about Ann Coulter - she's to be pitied, like an ugly fourth grader with Tourettes syndrome. Every time another vapid inanity departs her mouth you just want to say "there, there dear, we know you can't help it, but we understand, you poor thing"

Gannon is just a whore looking for attention. You remember the kind - discovered that it took a lot less effort to get negative attention than to get positive attention, and then somewhere along the way he got reinforcement for his narcissism in the form of cash from a john.

Just where does the line from pitiable to pathetic get crossed with these boneheads? I think the name of that line is called "hypocrisy".
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:36 PM
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10. Exactly. Great post.
Yeah, I knew kids like that.

Ann Coulter just makes me laugh. Seriously, she does. What else can you do in the face of such a serious persecution and inferiority complex as hers?

Just laugh. She DOES need meds, though.

But this guy....ug. He is such a mess, isn't he? Doesn't seem to know which way is up.

And I think they are mostly pathetic. A poster upthread talked me out of my pity for him.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:37 PM
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39. anyone seen ann coulter one of MTV's "before they were famous" shows?
she was a "hippie." i mean, tried really hard to "be a hippie." as if it was all about clothes and "belonging." she's sad -- seems like she didn't have many friends. a trait she has profitted nicely from.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:56 PM
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44. That would be a good tactic on a talking head show w/Coulter
Like Insanity, or Bill Maher, or whatever whore has her on- when she starts with her insane rants just like laugh in her face- that would be must see TV
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:37 PM
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12. He's not mentally ill. He's just a stupid asshole with a military fetish.
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 12:39 PM by Stirk
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:38 PM
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13. I hear you...
Looking at some of his recent TV appearances, it's obvious that there is something wrong there. I believe that there are probably some very dark secrets from his past.

The sad reality is, that most likely if anyone is going to take the fall for this, it will be him. And then he will be out casted by all...
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SkipNewarkDE Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:39 PM
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15. Jeff has to move on...
A different take... During the late 90's it was homo chic to run around in the Doc Marten's, have the high and tight haircut, and spend $5.00 on those little dogtags at the beach, plus an extra buck if you want the little rubber things that keep 'em from clanging together. Jeff is just stuck in the 90's time to update, dude.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:39 PM
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16. He was a patsy.......................
I imagine that the administration had every intention to leave this guy out in the wind when finally the jig was up. I think his fate will be shared by many in the coming future.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:43 PM
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18. I don't feel sorry for him. His entire raison d'etre was getting attention
to make him feel important. WHICH WE HAVE GIVEN HIM PLENTY OF!
:thumbsdown:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:48 PM
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20. He is a perfect example of the "average" republican. CORRUPT.
Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 12:49 PM by Zorra
The difference is, he is one that got caught.

Let's face it, nobody is perfect, but...

Most republicans, I'm sorry to say, deep down, are sneaky lying self-deceived fascist hypocrites, and are dangerous to America, democracy, and liberty.

I feel sorry for them too, it must be a living hell to be that confused, but at the same time, I know that I can never, ever, trust a republican.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 12:54 PM
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23. I feel sorry for him, too
There has to be a lot of hurt in there; there has to be something missing. I look at his pictures and see not even a Roehm, but one of the boys around Roehm who wanted to be close to power and protection, and who may have wanted to be on the other end of the stick for a change. And yes, I feel sorry for them, too.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:24 PM
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28. I'm like you too.
Feeling sorry for him but then when he opens his mouth ragging on liberals, I get pissed at him.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:19 PM
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25. i feel for him too, he is such a lightwieght....
he is either a very stupid right wing shill or a person who is playing the part of a very stupid right wing shill. i don't know if the imcompentence is purposeful, much like the bush admin.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:21 PM
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26. He didn't sneak into the White House
disguised as a legit journalist. He was plant who was invited into the White House to collaborate in an effort to make Bush look good in press conferences.

I find that scarier than any concerns about incompetence on the part of the Secret Service.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:27 PM
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29. link to jeff gannon's sex-for-sale.., jeff's private parts are covered-up

there are NO offensive pictures of jeff's private parts on this site (all jeff's sex parts are covered up)...BUT there are links to jeff's original PHOTOS, which he posted to advertise his sex services on the web....these additional links go to photos of naked jeff, posed bent over, urinating and full spread with erection (warning...only go to the FIRST link, unless you really want to go further).....


http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/02/man-called-jeff.html



STILL FEEL SORRY for this liar? both a prostitute and a pimp?





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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:00 PM
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34. Oh I've seen all those pictures.
Back when this first broke.

I only felt sorry for him in the sense that I truly think he is mentally ill.

Other than that, no. And I have not one iota of pity for anyone in the bush white house. Period.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:53 PM
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31. He earned his low self-esteem because he IS a piece of shit
I have no pity for Guckert
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:57 PM
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33. That's right. Piss on him. No one held a gun to his head.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 01:53 PM
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32. I do too, actually...
I think he is a victim of all sorts of crap. All CIA assets are treated to mental nightmares that produce all sorts of monsters, like Saddam.

I do feel sorry for him, but he has a soap box that he should use to tell the truth and on that count I cannot respect him.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:02 PM
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35. Oh it should never be concluded that I have any respect
for ANY of these people. Respect, no. Slight amounts of pity because he is a sad, deluded little compulsive liar obviously in need of medication? At times, yes.
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LdyGuique Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 03:26 PM
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38. Dammit!!! You went and made me think about him as a total
human being and now I feel sorry for him! Actually, we don't know his background and definitely have not walked in his moccasins -- it's very possible that he comes from a highly abusive childhood and this is the best he could expect. A success story, as it were.

However, since it's hard for me to feel sorry for anyone too long, especially someone whom I've never met nor had long-term contact with, I've gotten that pretty well out of my system.

I'm back to mocking and enjoying the salacious aspect of this scandal. Something everyone is overlooking is since he visited the WH while AF1 was gone with the press gaggle (and that means Lame Duck was gone, too) -- who was he really visiting? I'm still voting for Rove as being the primary contact and user of Gannon's ummmm services.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:13 PM
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40. Well now that IS interesting, I didn't know about that.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 02:55 PM
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36. Is it APRIL FOOLS DAY on DU today? U R Kidding, right!
Sorry. Sympathy and Gannon-gate do not equate.

I say, "Get a rope and hang-um high," if they wanna play dirty. He needs to go down. Investigated to the hilt. He connects to the main problem.

P.S. As I write this, Bush is seen "HOLDING HANDS" w/the Saudi Prince at the ole Ranch on CNN. I kid you not - HOLDING HANDS w/OIL PRINCE!

:banghead:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:16 PM
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41. Yeah I saw all the kissy face stuff.
But I don't advocate killing Gannon, and I'm assuming you were engaging in hyperbole when you said "hang 'em high."

Also please understand my sympathy is slight. It does not extend to actually sending the man any communication or arguing on his behalf. I simply wonder if he doesn't need pharmaceutical/counseling help. Anyone as deluded as he is......
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 04:44 PM
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42. I posted something like this....
months ago, and was ripped to shreds. I too feel sorry for this or any other mentally ill human being who feels the need to stoop to these depths.
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:49 PM
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43. I don't know how to feel about Gannon/Guckert
On the one hand, he is a media whore for a fascist Bush political party. That fact brings up feelings of disgust toward the Bulldog.

On the other hand, if he was abducted as a small boy, and used as a sexual blackmail tool by the fascists, then I feel sorry for him. If this guy was an abducted paperboy, (and I have no way of knowing unless there's DNA evidence) then he deserves to get some help, and he and his family deserves some kind of justice.

The latter scenario seems far-fetched, but these days, things have become pretty weird.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:58 PM
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45. I think chimpy's handlers are thinking the same thoughts about now..
and realizing just how unstable Gannon is...a loose cannon, perhaps a bit too chatty-cathy for their comfort. Good chance Mr. Gannon might just suddenly disappear, me thinks.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 10:06 PM
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46. I have absolutely NO sympathy for that self-serving little prick!
F*** him! :nuke:

:nopity:
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MontageOfFreedom Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 02:41 AM
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48. Curious as to what there is to feel "sorry" about? nt
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 08:59 PM
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50. The original poster tells you.
I feel sorry for him (and that's sometimes) because I feel he is being used and is in way over his head. Yes he may be enjoying his visits to the WH and rubbing elbows with the Bush crowd but I think he realizes he's gone too far and he can't come back down. Does that make any sense to you? Sometimes I can't explain myself correctly.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-05 03:07 AM
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49. this bum was part of deceiving the entire nation, put him on the stand
and see what he knows about plame.
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