non-religious people of DU- is ANYONE going to heaven and/or hell?

[LiberallyInclined]

:evilgrin:

[jojo54]

1. Actually don't believe in either

so I don't know where I'm going when I die.

[Mr.Green93]

2. not until

judgment day.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. George Bush makes me hope there's a hell

Does that count?

[Book Lover]

4. Only the ones we make here on earth

my two cents

[WLKjr]

5. I don't know yet

But I will let you know if I can......

[murray hill farm]

6. don't understand the question!

if one is a non-religious person...would they believe in either heaven or hell? How, then could they answer the question.?

[Bellamia]

31. What about non-Christians........

do they believe in heaven and hell? How about those who say they are "spiritual", not "religious."? How about Christians who don't take the Bible literally, what would be their answers? Anyone??????????

[Bellamia]

32. If one is not Christian...

how would they answer the question? Or a Christian who doesn't take the Bible literally.
Sorry, this got in twice.

[not systems]

7. No. This is heaven and this is hell.

The Harder They Come by Jimmy Cliff

Well they tell me of a pie up in the sky
Waiting for me when I die
But between the day you're born and when you die
They never seem to hear even your cry

CHORUS:
So as sure as the sun will shine
I'm gonna get my share now of what's mine
And then the harder they come the harder they'll fall, one and all
Ooh the harder they come the harder they'll fall, one and all

Well the officers are trying to keep me down
Trying to drive me underground
And they think that they have got the battle won
I say forgive them Lord, they know not what they've done

CHORUS

ooh yeah oh yeah woh yeah ooooh

And I keep on fighting for the things I want
Though I know that when you're dead you can't
But I'd rather be a free man in my grave
Than living as a puppet or a slave

CHORUS

Yeah, the harder they come, the harder they'll fall one and all
What I say now, what I say now, awww
What I say now, what I say one time
The harder they come the harder they'll fall one and all
Ooh the harder they come the harder they'll fall one and all

[tridim]

8. Wherever it is the religious and neocon nutbags go

I want to go to the other place.

Any place that accepts Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson and Bush can not be defined as Heaven.

[wuushew]

9. Immortality is a curse incompatible with the human condition

We as humans neither have the ability to experience infinite time nor the ability to hold those memories. Memory and cognition are the mechanisms by which we experience reality. Given infinite time an individual whould experience the outcomes of all possible events in the universe.

We either have to remember those events or loose them via forgetting. Either way the outcome results in the death of the individual via changes to the basic mental processes we term "human".

This is why even if an afterlife is true it becomes meaningless and irrelevant. Drink and be merry for tommorrow we die.

[Discord]

10. NO.

But they do seem content to waste away this known life in hopes of a better one after death.

Me, I'm gonna live this one up as best I can. At least I'll die KNOWING what I did, and did the best I could in this life, the one I'm sure exists. I like to play by house rules with home court advantage. Call me crazy.

:evilgrin:

[MADem]

11. We're headed to heaven, we are all living in hell (since 00) n/t

[m0nkeyneck]

12. all the cool ppl would be in hell..

if such a place existed

[Solly Mack]

13. Yes but only if you book your travel arrangements through me

For the low low price of $100.00 a year, for the rest of your life, I can book your passage and guarantee you accommodations in heaven.

For $50.00 a year for the remainder of your life I will send your soul to hell;express, with no long lines. 4 star accommodations with breakfast and dinner included. Shuffleboard on the inferno deck, with dancing and dining all night long!


I know hell seems like the better deal but do you really want to go there? Of course not! Choose the heaven package and achieve peace of mind.

*Price does not include state and local taxes.
*All custom fees are the responsibility of ticket holder.

If you act now and pay with your credit card you can buy one and get one half priced. That's right! Reserve your room in heaven and send your friend to hell for half the regular price!

Call now!

[gratuitous]

14. According to the book "If Grace is True"

We're all going to heaven. I rather recommend the book (authors Gulley and Mulholland), and am looking forward to reading their follow-up book "If God is Love." Both books offer a very different take on scripture than the fundamentalists, and cite many biblical passages for an understanding of God that isn't all vengeance and negative judgment. Quite enjoyable.

[CJCRANE]

15. Yes

It's possible to experience them both here on earth.

[Anakin Skywalker]

16. I Actually Really Don't Care.

[Gin]

17. Heaven and Hell are states of mind......I have been to both....

no need to die for the experience.

[Anakin Skywalker]

20. I Would Agree With You.

[leftofthedial]

18. I wish

then the neotheocons could find justice somewhere.

there is no justice here on earth. That's shy people had to invent heaven and hell.

[leesa]

19. How would we know?

[ComerPerro]

21. If there is a heaven, most of todays "Christians" (fundies) won't be there

I think they will be reffered to the other place.

[sweetheart]

22. This world "IS" a hell

Heaven is a marketing construct, when all desire is satiated, and
beyond desire lies a place of pure fulfillment. Rather this world
is a place of hungry spirits greedy with desire, expecting that
fulfillment will lead to anything but more desire and such is the
wheel of birth and death.

[Cleita]

23. We're all going to Hell.

There are so few humans who can meet the high standards to enter Heaven that it makes it impossible except for a few. Sounds like a Country Club doesn't it?

On the other hand, in Hell, all our friends and relatives will be there, as well as our enemies. Sounds just like the Earthly plane doesn't it? Nothing changes I'll bet, except maybe some table turning.

The first time we came into this world, we were all innocent babies born into circumstances we had no control over and having to learn the hard way through experience. When we go to Hell, we will have all that knowledge behind us and we will probably have some fun getting even with our enemies, and others will have fun getting even with us.

So, I write fantasy. One of my exercises is to write scenarios of what a possible afterlife could be like, depending on your religion.

[Champion Jack]

24. There is no such thing as heaven or hell

It's just a fucking fairy tale. It was created to control the masses.

[MazeRat7]

25. Stop wasting bandwidth with such a banal question.....

[expatriate]

26. Who cares?

I'm living now, with no promise of heaven or threat of hell.

My decisions and actions are entirely my own, and I enjoy the benefits or suffer the consequences of them.

I don't even care enough about religion to be an atheist.

I guess you could say I'm an apathist.

Now, back to living.

[Discord]

33. Like your description. nt

:toast:

[Az]

40. A friends teeshirt

During the Atheist march in DC a friend was wearing a teeshirt that said "Smile! There is no Hell!" Had a big ole happy smiley face on it too.


Smile! There is no Hell!

[Bzzzz]

27. IMO...no n/t

[onager]

28. We go back where we came from...

Oblivion.

I can deal with that.

I might be willing to change from atheism when just one dead believer comes back to complain that he or she got swindled. Or to tell me about Heaven, complete with photos. Preferably digital.

(NOTE: no, NDE's don't count. We can reproduce those on a centrifuge.)

[Jacobin]

29. When you get there (wherever that might be) email me

[Toots]

30. Everyone is going to both heaven and hell

and anywhere else the mind can come up with....We are all in this together and we always will be...Time is different than we think it is...We can neither be created nor destroyed... We are and always will be...shine on....

[DIKB]

34. Can't say, don't know.

It's just the very thought of either is pretty ridiculous. Infinite punishment for finite sins ? Not in anyway just or fair.

[Goldmund]

35. I'm going to Disney World.

[Gelliebeans]

36. nope

just becoming compost :evilgrin:

[Az]

37. Been to Hell and I don't see what all the fuss is about

Hell Michigan is a quaint little town. Go there are road trips on occaision. Really? What is all the fuss about? And why does everyone keep making a deal of whether Hell is frozen over or not? It freezes over just like the rest of Michigan every year.

[Devlzown]

38. Neither place is too bad.

Hell is just the smoking section.

[thecai]

39. I'm "Non-Religious" Christian...

...therefore I cannot judge.