Freepers, republicans, bush voters, tell me why you're so unhappy!

[Bouncy Ball]

Tell me why you aren't on top of the world! Tell me what's wrong!

Your party is in control of the legislative branch of the United States government, the executive branch of the government and most of the judicial branch (and the ones you don't like, you just hint hint about shooting).

Even more, the media seems to have its face firmly in your party's lap. Deeply entrenched in corporate America and corporate America deeply entrenched with your party.

If someone were to land here from another planet, they'd think, based on your glorified victim behavior that you guys have been losing elections for time out of mind.

Um, but you....haven't.

So what exactly is your deal? I'd love just ONE freeper/republican/bushbot to tell me why they are STILL so unhappy.

Are you only happy when you're down? Are you only happy with an enemy or five? Do you secretly know your leaders are actually evil little shmucks who don't give a shit about you?

Or do you just love an atmosphere of nastiness and can't get by without it?

I honestly TRULY do not get it. If my party were in control the way your party was, I'd be dancing on a table somewhere. I'd be singing "Happy days are here again...." I wouldn't even NOTICE the other party, I'd be so happy about mine, so engrossed in watching the good things my elected leaders are doing. I certainly wouldn't be focusing all my time on the party out of control. They would hardly be a blip on my radar.

But rush said on his show the other day that a few Democratic senators CONTROL the Senate (Kennedy, Boxer, Reid).

Are you all delusional? Or do you NEED enemies? Kennedy, Boxer and Reid don't control the Senate, far from it. Do you think your party is SO weak, so ideologically sick that even when it is in COMPLETE CONTROL, three Democratic senators can take over anyway?

Explain this to me, please. I know you can't post here. But I know you read this site. And I want some of you out there to start explaining this strange thing. You don't act like winners. You act like a child who has just stolen another child's toy then spends the next hour screaming about how evil the other child is. :wtf:

[KG]

1. heck, they are happy! they love putting $3.00 gas in their SUVs!

that's called freedom!

[Wapsie B]

2. Well said.

They've got the political world by the balls but all I see amongst repugs are the same old scowls as before the chimp took office.

[Bouncy Ball]

4. Even when he "won" I didn't see any happiness or celebration.

Had Kerry won (ahem), you would have seen me dancing in the streets. It would have been a party for days.

But bush wins and it's "meh" from them and much gnashing of teeth from everyone else.

:shrug:

What gives?

[piece sine]

20. they're not unhappy...

one Rush quote and you think they're unhappy. In live in DC. I see it. They're happy. Very happy.

[walldude]

21. They're happy? Read this....

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7235393?rnd=1113790795953&has-player=false

They won't be happy till we are all born again, saved or dead.

Here's a quote from the article:

"Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost," Kennedy says. "As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society."

Vice Regents of God. These crazy fucks want another Inquision.

[FreedomAngel82]

40. If they're going to try that

then they'll be damned for sure. They're not going to convert me to their crazy forum of Christianity. I'm already a Christian but they need to fuck off.

[Wapsie B]

22. Maybe DC

But in the real world the little people who put the pods in power, aren't happy campers. People like my old man are as angry as ever.

[Bouncy Ball]

25. No, it's not just "one rush quote."

It's everything I've seen from the start of bush's first term to now. I live in Dallas, Texas.

You'd THINK I'd see some happiness from them here. But no, not even here.

Explain to me what happiness you see from them. You mean the bush voters you know don't constantly try to find some way to demonize everyone else? Aren't so busy playing the Professional Victim that they actually have time to be happy about their party being in control?

Not from the looks of it around here!

[caledesi]

And just what is all the happiness about, prey tell? nt

[FreedomAngel82]

34. Really

They even had some big spectacular parties in D.C. but still are unhappy. :shrug:

[solinvictus]

3. Locally here in Birmingham..

They still act as if they're under seige. You'd think Lenin was in power and was declaring all churches converted to public toilets or somesuch. It's silly.

[roguevalley]

5. no one speaks a word about politics here. However if me or my

family brings up how bad it is, everyone jumps on bush. its the damnest thing here. In Alaska, weather, politics and fishing are the topics. Zip. Nada on politics and on the very rare occasions it comes up, people stomp on the pubs/bush.

[Bouncy Ball]

7. They act as if they are under seige.

That's EXACTLY the attitude I'm talking about. What is UP with that?

WHO is attacking them? WHO is their enemy?

[solinvictus]

12. Liberals, communists, socialists, and secular humanists..

who are promoting the homosexual/atheist/Marxist agenda that seeks to steal their vital bodily fluids. ;)
Of course, I'm not being facetious, it's nearly this bad.

[Bouncy Ball]

13. Where are all these communists?

And what kind of power do they have in the US? Marxist agenda?

I know you were being semi-facetious, but honestly, do they realize how silly they sound?

Maybe I shouldn't be saying anything--let them get crazier and crazier and crazier, causing more and more formerly apolitical people to wake up to their nuttiness and back away from them.

[solinvictus]

16. Well, oddly enough, we have a Marxist bookstore here in Birmingham

The Pathfinder Bookstore is a front for the Socialist Worker's Party. It's weird, but we do have some resident communists. By and large, they're mainly concerned with labor issues.
On local talk radio, though, I've heard judges referred to as Marxists in black robes. No kidding. It's getting worse by the day too.

[tavalon]

126. Wait,

Socialism and Communism aren't the same thing. They share similarities but still. And yes, Socialists are concerned with labor issues, always have been, bless them.

[hfojvt]

99. well, there was Dan Rather, but they got him

Of course there are still many university professors daring to criticize the fuehrer and the homeland. There are media people like Gene Lyons, Molly Ivins and even Gold Star winner (in the war on Gore) Maureen Dowd. Every so often there is a left-wing LTTE too. There are still 46 Democrats in the US Senate and they are still able to filibuster, although they hardly ever do.
Not only that, but what if Hillary gets elected in 2008? Imagine the horror. She is like Genghis Khan, Mao Tse Tung, Josef Stalin, Karl Marx, Margaret Sanger, Barbra Streisand, Sally Struthers, Jane Fonda, Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, and Rosie O'Donnell all rolled up in one evil package.
How can any conservative sleep at night when the possibilty still exists that she could be elected in 2008 and bring back peace and prosperity? It would mean the terrorists have won, or will win ...

Okay, I kinda hate parodying them. Right now they are unhappy about Schiavo's death and that juveniles can no longer get the death penalty. Don't ask. It is a culture of life thing.

[Kerrytravelers]

154. What's wrong with Sally Struthers?

WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! (ALl In the Family- remember the crying?)

Oh, I know, she wants to help feed poor children living in impoverished nations. Shame on her, the terrorist.

Don't ask. It's a culture of life thing.

[rman]

104. or for that matter, where are all the terrorists?

repubs have perfected the art of crying "wolf" when there is none.

[FreedomAngel82]

42. Don't forget

intellectuals. :eyes:

[Tux]

17. Easy

Non-Christians, professors and scholars in general, college students, humanists, secular society, and the Consitution that prevents a theocracy.

[Doctor Panacea]

90. Their psyche

Persecution is part of their operational attitude. Basically they live in a world of fear, fear in all its manifestations and consequences.

They are metaphysically afraid. They think Jesus will jump out of the closet and "get 'em" for something bad that they have done. That is where it all starts with most of them.

They really have a lot of trouble relating to the world, which they see as hostile and threatening. But they cannot see that the problem lies within them, so they project it onto somebody else. That is why they are never happy. They cannot be happy, since being happy requires some acceptance of life as it is and some willingness to be at least a little bit flexible. They cannot BE flexible, because once they start questioning ANYTHING, their whole world starts to crumble and they are back in a condition of metaphysical angst.

They have a church on practically every corner in the South, but to listen to them you would think they were Roman Christians about to be thrown into the arena. That is their mindset. And it will never change.

[SammyWinstonJack]

111. I now see the World as hostile and threatening

Thanks to them! And I have a lot of trouble relating to that.

[raccoon]

117. Great post

seems like people like that NEVER see that any problem is within them.

[tavalon]

128. Bingo!

You got it. They have the persecution complex, um, nailed.

Welcome to DU, Doctor Panacea!

[Fifth of Five]

141. Ding, ding, ding!

We have a winner!

[Wise Child]

161. Anticipation of the Second Coming

has put some into a seige mentality, inspite of political victories. Their pastors tell them no one knows the day or hour of Christ's return, so between now and then, all the evil Liberals will go after their children and make them Secular Humanists and Homosexuals, and as a result their children won't be raptured.

Perhaps in the near future, they will lose political influence, Republicans lose elections, the Republican Party's Religious Right base weakens, and they start blabbing about the Second Coming and the signs of The End Times and the cycle of fear is given new life.

[atommom]

6. Their leaders (and their RW commentators) keep telling them they

ARE under siege, from terrorists, liberals, Hollywood, and activist judges, to name a few. The Repubs have figured out that keeping the fearfest going is good for their poll numbers. :shrug: I keep wondering when the country is going to wake up.

[Bouncy Ball]

10. atommom, I really think you hit the nail on the head.

They are acting in the manner their party wants them to act in.

You are exactly right. And unfortunately they aren't the type of people to question this or to wake up to it, so it continues.....

The fearfest gets mighty tiring. I never was into it, but I can't imagine staying in fear so much and for so long.

[FreedomAngel82]

46. Me either

Wouldn't it be draining to be afraid all the time?? One of my favorite quote's: "The only thing to fear is fear itself."~FDR

[AuntiBush]

96. When one thinks about it, it's a bit scary.

Rethuglians on the Hill don't care, rather they push brother against brother, American against American.

Does anyone see that..?!? Now, that's frightful, yet more and more good people whom voted for Bushivitz & Co are more mad at themselves and trust me, they're sorry. Very, very sorry now. I almost feel sorry for the certain ones I know kicking themselves now, as they feel very guilty, as if they were "duped" and let the country down.

Of course, these are the educated ones.

Nothing like a Prez & Co that "divides," not "unites" our states.

Last note: Homeland - If I hear that 1 more time! When is the last time anyone heard the words "The United State of America!" Honestly!

[tavalon]

130. Homeland, Fatherland

Too similar for my taste. But really, we aren't united but rather of two camps. I call them Americans and Murkins and we couldn't be more different if we tried.

[AuntiBush]

162. You're Right.

But never so close to civil dis-order.

[sandnsea]

98. It feeds their egos too

They have to have someone to look down on so they can pat themselves on the back about their goodness. Terrorists, liberals, Hollywood and activist judges. They have to keep their condescension focused, or they might start looking around at each other and that wouldn't be good.

[tavalon]

129. Sadly, it's a human trait

to be led along on a fearfest. When did they wake up in Salem, when did they wake up in Germany? We'll wake up on about the same timetable, after much, much more damage has been done, when the shame of what we have done or allowed (which is hardly different) is just too horrifying.

[Mnemosyne]

8. Bill got a bj and they didn't. They are still

bitching' about him and trying to blame him for everything from Rove's hemorrhoids to Delay's total lack of ethics.Boo damn Hoo. Get human lives you monsters (NO, not take human lives! dips!).

[FreedomAngel82]

47. Maybe

they're jealous Mr. Clinton got some and they haven't gotten laid in a while. Maybe their hormones are just bottled up and making them cranky. :shrug: And being the good Christian people they don't masterbate. :eyes:

[Mnemosyne]

105. Maybe we'd all be much better off if they did!!!

[tavalon]

131. Maybe nothing

We would be better off if they would masturbate and ditch the guilt too.

[Booster]

121. Just got back from visiting my Republican parents in Texas

and, as usual, they brought up Clinton. I asked them why they hated Clinton so much, and after hemming and hawing around, my mother blurted out "because he had sex with that girl". I asked her if she ever had a friend who had an affair and did she hate that person. She said no. Amazing. To end the conversation I said "well, I'll tell you one thing. Clinton cared more about both of you than Bush ever will" and that stunned and silenced them. They never brought up politics again. You could tell by the look on their faces that they knew that was true.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Maybe it's because they know they aren't really the victims any more

even though they play that card every time. They aren't really happy unless they can demonstrate how they are being oppressed by those dastardly, godless libruls. Remember their hissy fits over Christmas? They said the evil libruls tried to destroy Christmas and oppress the poor, victimized Christians by occasionally suggesting that maybe Jewish kids shouldn't have to sing Christmas carols in the public schools -- all kinds of nasty pinko stuff. And I think the other thing that ties their panties in knots is the fact that we're still here, 56 million of us, and we're not going away.

[Bouncy Ball]

11. They definitely have the culture of vicimization down pat.

Funny thing is, my right wing father in law loves to condescendingly declare everyone ELSE to be a member of this cult of victimhood, yet he's been firmly entrenched in it for YEARS.

Projection, anyone?

[FreedomAngel82]

51. Yep

I'm surprised they didn't get rilled up over Easter. :eyes: Don't forget there's more then 56 million cause a lot of us in the red states also voted for Kerry. :) I'm a proud southern democrat.

[Nevernose]

14. They don't like the fact that we EXIST

And if they really had all the power the crave (while still preaching for state's rights or Objectivism or whatever bullshit is popular right now), then you and me and 9/10s of the posters at DU would be headed for the camps, the vitims of yet another purge, pogrom, holocaust, genocide, mass murder, or some other term historians of the future can (will) apply.

[Bouncy Ball]

18. I've quietly suspected that, but it's too......incredibly craven to think

on much. Someone hating that I EXIST?

[solinvictus]

24. That's why we need to arm ourselves if you aren't..

If they get a chance, and we've all speculated about the catalyst that would give it to them, they would attempt to round us up for mass shootings. If you can snipe back at them from a distance, they're less likely to be successful in their attacks.

[tavalon]

132. I've always been against guns

Now, I'm actually considering getting one and learning how to use it. What a horrific world we have landed in, this 'Murka.

[FreedomAngel82]

56. Yep

You got it. I bet if they could they would be happy to lock us up so they can rule our country. Rove wants our country to be a one party country and the republicans be that one party. Why else have they tried to get rid of democrats as presidents? Because we progress and let people think for themselves and we're for equal rights.

[seabeyond]

15. why you're so unhappy!.......its clintons fault n/t

[vince3]

19. It's a sign of another stolen election

A lot of people on the right are unhappy with Bush. There are also others on the right who don't want to make much of the last election because they have a feeling that bragging about it would call attention to it. A lot of *** supporters believe he lost in 2004 (and 2000) and don't want to mention his supposed victory of November. Five and a half months after our latest farcical elections is no time for the right to be reminding people that *** is still in office.

[FreedomAngel82]

59. Interesting

I've never thought about that. Why else would Bush's numbers be incredibly low? He's the WORST president in our history.

[ariellyn]

113. They're low because the polls were never high for Bush in the first place.

It was all smoke and mirrors just like the election.

[stray cat]

23. They are not happy unless they feel persecuted.

They always need an enemy to keep them together and motivated. They have to feel like their fight is out of righteous necessity otherwise if they took a look around they would realize they are the bullies and everything that is currently happening is their fault.

[ailsagirl]

26. Not only are they unhappy-- they're still so ANGRY

Why, I don't know. I suppose Rush & Co. keep the fires stoked.

A lot of them, methinks, are extremely defensive about the mess the country's in. It must be harder and harder for them to justify standing by their "leader."

Maybe they're unhappy because, on some level, they know the country is in deep trouble yet they're NEVER wrong, so they are having a hard time reconciling their slavish devotion to a fascist regime.

[Bouncy Ball]

28. Yep, that baffles me, too.

From the looks of things, they don't have a hell of a lot to be angry about, but they remind me of a classic dysfunctional parent who is NEVER happy no matter WHAT is done in their favor.

[ailsagirl]

97. The things the rethugs pursue will practically guarantee

unhappiness. It's never about giving to others or the Golden Rule. It's about greed, pure and simple. No wonder they're so unhappy.

[solinvictus]

27. They're like an abused woman..

"He's doing better! I mean it, look at him, he says he's gonna stop drinkin' and get a job". It's that mentality with die-hard Republicans, they can't deny that things are bad going to worse, but they still make excuses and get defensive. "He's a bastard son-of-a-bitch, but he's mine".

[liskddksil]

31. almost like Stockholm Syndrome

In a wierd way.

[solinvictus]

36. I call it Political/Economic Stockholm Syndrome..

Too many people identify with a party that works against their own class interest.

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[Bouncy Ball]

35. Ah! One popped up to respond!

Well your stay will be short, since you outed yourself right off the bat, you silly thing, but while you are here:

Actually that is NOT what rush meant. He said they CONTROL THE SENATE. The Senate is CONTROLLED by those senators. How many shades of meaning could that have? And remember, we are talking about rush here. He's not exactly the king of connotation, LOL!

I not only formed my question well, I asked it point blank several times, but you cannot answer it:

WHY are you guys so angry and unhappy? You control everything! Yee-ha!

But no. You are MAD. Grrrr. You are victims! (cue wailing and soaring violins) You are put out, oppressed, trodden upon! Woe is you!

And yet, that doesn't match up to reality. Now, care to tell me why y'all are such miserable bastards?

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[Bouncy Ball]

41. You're not a very good little neocon, not listening to rush limpballs

everytime he's on the radio, are you?

Why, you should have every word of his show memorized every day. It's how you know what to think!

Well, him among others.

So, seeing as you aren't even supposed to be posting here, I think I'll let YOU go find the quote.

:rofl:

On edit, tell me why you're so unhappy and victimized, that was the point of this whole thread and you are avoiding it, like a typical neocon! Come on, play like a mouse with a broken leg! Play!

[alittlelark]

49. You guys are kinda cute (in a pathetic way)

when you get all FEISTY!!!

[FourStarDemocrat]

62. over at "Brainterminal"! LOL.. is that what powers the neocon brain? nt

[Taxloss]

73. I'm thinking of the "Big Head" from "3rd Rock"

Incoming message!

[FreedomAngel82]

64. You're ignoring the question

You're ignoring the question neocon76. Please answer it. YOU CONTROL EVERYTHING. WHY ARE YOU UNHAPPY? Or are you just stupid?

[B Calm]

75. I knew you would set the hook on one sooner or later..

We'll have to go fishing sometime..

[Bouncy Ball]

78. I try.

:toast:

You have to use a very very SIMPLE worm for them. They can't handle the complicated stuff. And it has to be flashy, shiny, you know. They are attracted to shiny things.

:rofl:

[sparky_in_ma]

80. Thank You

That was entertaining.

[Bouncy Ball]

38. Um, by the way, speaking of incoherent, I have no idea

what the Kennedy assassination has to do with this thread, but rock on with your bad self, neocon.

:rofl:

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[Bouncy Ball]

48. Did you happen to read the posting rules before registering to

post here?

This is a site for progressives and other like-minded people. Neo-cons and people who generally think bush is swell are not welcome here (this isn't the United States, it's a privately owned website). I guess you didn't read the posting rules.

And you have already admitted to being a neocon and a bush lover.

You aren't long for here.

There are message boards where your views are more welcome, and there are message boards where people of all political stripes go to debate, this just isn't one of them.

[Name removed]

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[Bouncy Ball]

60. It was rhetorical.

In fact, you even quoted the part where I said "I know you can't post here...."

That also should have clued you in. bush lovers like you lurk here ALL the time and it was there for them to read and for US to respond to amongst ourselves.

That's how this site works.

So you read the rules, knew you would be violating them, and registered and started posting anyway?

Pretty typical.

If non-progressives are not welcome here, why did you register in the first place?

[Taxloss]

61. Because some attempt to disrupt here.

They try to waste time, create trouble and division, and so on.

[Bouncy Ball]

65. And sometimes we like to trap them with questions they

can't resist answering, thus outing themselves and getting a "special pizza."

:evilgrin:

[Taxloss]

69. Hey Bouncy.

I enjoyed your earlier thread. Nice catch.

[Bouncy Ball]

72. Thanks, which one was that?

[Taxloss]

74. The one the alerted me to this thread.

I was here as soon as the popcorn was ready.

[Bouncy Ball]

76. Ah, of course! Sorry, how silly of me!

:popcorn:

[Taxloss]

77. And it's over!

Well, it was fun.

[Randi_Listener]

85. Well that was a short visit.

I thought the shit would go on all night.

[Mad_Dem_X]

145. Damn! I always arrive too late!

I miss all the fun. ;(

[tavalon]

135. The Tombstone pizza! n/t

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[Bouncy Ball]

70. I think you should speak your feelings more honestly, Randi_Listener.

:rofl:

You always hold back so much! ;-)

[FreedomAngel82]

71. It doesn't mean anything?

Uh yeah it does. It means you're a NEOCON and you're showing yourself to be one. :eyes:

[tavalon]

134. I have to play Devil's Advocate here

Bouncy, you asked it to respond. You asked it a question. Now granted, it didn't answer your question but it did raise it's silly little mole head to try to, heh heh, talk some sense into your head. It has no sense so of course, it failed, but you did ask it to respond.

[KitchenWitch]

52. Question for you

Why do fundamentalist Christians believe they are being persecuted in this country???

Christianity is awfully close to being the state sanctioned religion here.

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[FreedomAngel82]

68. Really? I don't see it

Please show us where it's at. It is talked about here but not obsessivley.

[Occulus]

86. Oh, of course it is

You should expect that, by the way. Not because we're "liberals", but because we don't necessarily buy the official line on a whole spectrum of topics, mostly because we don't believe the government is any "smarter" than we are.

Now, if you're talking deviously corrupt, we not only know members of our government are so, but that, historically, that has been the case for a very long time. I personally believe this truly began when chartered corporations were handed the status of personhood by our courts, a decision (well, not really, it was more like a declaration of the King made by SCOTUS a long while back) I and many others see as being the single biggest blow to the concept of democracy in our nation since its founding. It is, by the way, a nonpartisan issue.

Republicans take lots of money from corporate persons (like EnronTycoKmartWorldcomArthurAndersen), so this will not change for as long as either a) republicans are in power or b) republicans stop taking corporate contributions and start working to instead revoke corporate personhood. But I digress.

Just what, exactly, do Republicans have to justifiably complain about? Bouncy is right; Republicans control two out of three branches of the Federal government, many state legislatures, huge numbers of churches.... and yet.... there are continued complaints from them.

Answer. The. Question.

[liberalnurse]

50. You cast a great worm off your reel!

Where did the nibbler go?????:rofl:

[Bouncy Ball]

54. I am a cat and I just found a mouse with a broken leg.

Now I know how a hunter feels.

:rofl:

[entanglement]

84. What a fool, with a name like 'Neocon'

and defending Rush, of all people. I wonder how it(?) made to 4 posts.
It seems you're fairly experienced at 'outing' :toast:

[FreedomAngel82]

66. God bless Kennedy

:patriot:

[Swamp Rat]

30. Why do Freepers hate America?

Why do Freepers hate freedom?

Why do Freepers hate the U.S Constitution?

Why do Freepers hate America?

Why did Freepers sell out to the alien lizards?



Btw, ex-Freepers are welcome here. Come join the human race and help save America before it is too late!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

32. I agree

It still boggles my mind as well as to why they're still so unhappy. I guess they won't be happy until every one of us is a Bible thumper and converting people left and right. If my party was in control I too would be happy. At least we'd be getting some REAL work done instead of all this nonsense they've done. And if they think Reid, Boxer, Kennedy etc. have any power they're fucking nuts. I've noticed, even when they have all this power, the republicans still love to play victim. I'm sick and tired of it. They aren't victims and NEVER have been!

[ComerPerro]

33. Maybe its rhetorical, but I will tell you exactly why they are unhappy

Because nothing is being done to better their lives, and they are running out of people to blame.

So, Rush and the Grand Propagandists have them believe that the Democrats (a minority party who may soon not even have a shot at fillabustering, let alone having any kind of say whatsoever) are still pulling strings and blocking Bush and the GOP from making everything all better.

Right now, any form of dissent is a rejection of their way of life. They don't want to hear it, because somehow these Democrats who control the media (despite not having even a tenth of the outlets that conservative "thought" gets on the radio or TV), Congress (despite the Republicans' overwhelming majority in both houses) and some activist judges who have the audacity to reject unconstitutional legislation proposed by the GOP.

Republicans can never be happy because the people they elect simply don't give a shit about them. They don't care about their quality of life, they don't care about their hardships, they don't care about their problems.

Republicans will never be happy as long as the GOP is in power. There will always be some evil Democrat holding them back, some agenda-driven "journalists" publishing character assasinations on heros like Bush and Tom DeLay.

Common sense would suggest that soon there won't be any scapegoats left. Sooner or later, even the densest dittohead should wake up and realize that the Democrats can't possibly be holding back progress when they only make up 1/4 of congress and almost all Justices have been replaced by GOP appointees.

But it will take them a while.

Part of the conservative mindset is a feeling of powerlessness, indignation, persecution, and opression.

They get off on it.

There will always be someone holding them back. There will always be someone forcing their twisted morality on them. There will always be someone out to get them. There will always be someone trying to force them to accept corrupt lifestyles.

And there will always be a champion, a cowboy who stands up to the forces of evil. For this man, they will excuse any crime or any wrongdoing, as long as he can tell them who is to blame.

Its the conservative mindset.

Even when they get what they want, they are beaten down and oppressed. Its what they crave.

[Bouncy Ball]

37. Great post, you really summed up the mindset very well!

It's sad, really. I would hate to go through life that miserable.

[ComerPerro]

44. Its their common thread, and it helps them feel noble

[Mad_Dem_X]

146. Excellent post!

Says it all, especially about the "cowboy" who tells them who to blame.

[ClassWarrior]

45. I think it's the sudden realization that the Bush Crime Family isn't...

...going to share a thing with the bottom feeders they've whipped into a frenzy because the Radical RW are CORPORATE OPPORTUNISTS and WHORE POLITICIANS.

NGU.

[sparky_in_ma]

53. You're holding back

tell us what you really think.:D

I believe some have figured out what you've so eloquently stated, but a lot haven't and never will. Those are the ones who just thrive on hate, of one group or another. And of themselves.:-(

[ClassWarrior]

79. Hey sparks! I think folks are a lot smarter...

...than you're giving them credit for. But it's awful easy to be lulled into doing vile, despicable things when some criminal is stroking your fur and whispering in your ear everything you want to hear. Look at pre-WWII Germany.

NGU.

[sparky_in_ma]

82. *sigh*

In my heart I know you're right. It just seems more palatable to me if people do mean things because they're easily led. That there is intelligence behind it scares the hell out of me.

[Bouncy Ball]

57. Oh I don't think they're clever enough to have figured out they

have been being used like a $2 whore.

[Tactical Progressive]

55. They hate everything

Life, people, society, ... Others.

Having their guys run things doesn't make a better world and it doesn't soften their inate antagonism for everything else. In fact, their team running things makes a far worse world with more tension and conflict and antagonism. They can't win because there is no winning for them even if they returned to burning witches - liberals, gays, what have you. They even hate each other if you listen closely enough.

They have no sanctuary. All they have is targets of their misplaced ire. The only thing they could do is change and start caring about something more than greed and their assorted bigotries, and they won't do that. It's all they have to hold on to. Jesus tried to teach them what's what and they turn him inside-out and upside-down until their morals and values are the exact opposite of his. They don't want to know it let alone be it.

In short, this is what they are. It's not a matter of what they've got because they'll always want more even unto the world being on fire. I suppose 230 million people starving by the side of the road, saying "I deserve this", as they drive by in air-conditioned self-righteousness might do it, but outside of that unlikely development, their bitterness is never going to be satiated.

And even though they'll never admit it, they know it. Which just makes them madder.

[Robeson]

81. Nicely stated.

[Disturbed]

83. They haven't achieved their agenda.

Abortion and Homosexuality- Illegal. No labor unions, public schools, Medicare, Social Security, Welfare or any Social Programs that help the underclass. The Constitution based on their interpretation of biblical law.

[Tactical Progressive]

89. It won't make them happy

They'll always find something to hate. That's my point - there is no 'achieving their agenda'. Even if they could find a way to be the only ones left, they'll just turn on each other.

[enid602]

87. unhappy?

Hmmmmm ..... Gee, now why would they be unhappy. Maybe because recent economic events have proved that *'s trickle-down policies borrowed from the Reagan years are indeed baseless. Or maybe they've realized that our $1 billion excursion in Iraq has so far cost 200 or 300 billion, and has not had the desired effect on gas prices. Maybe they're starting to question *'s approach to handling the currency crisis; specifically, that deficits don't count, and lower taxes for the wealthy will grow the economy and end trade and government deficits. Maybe they're appalled that the media has the audacity to cover the excesses of criminals like Delay. Maybe they're tired of seeing Laura walking around in a stupor, and are starting to wonder if *'s constant trips to the ranch are necessitated by the occasional need for a bender.

But maybe, just maybe, they're not so impatient to to see Jesus to risk it all on an impending invasion of Iran.

[gumby]

88. "Those people" are NEVER satisfied and they will never stop.

Rush is the perfect example. He can't be satiated. He used food to try and fill himself up. Then he used drugs. But, he is never satisfied.

He's got millions of dollars and all he does is spread filth, lies and hate. How sick is that? Every day, he constructs some liberal enemy to consume in his bluster of self righteous morality play.

The Weenie Savage is even more of a mental case.

It's quite sad and amazing that millions of 'Murikans have been 'conditioned' to identify and respond to such psychological destruction. The more dysfunctional and criminal the politician or media ranter, the more "those people" identify with them.

"These people" must really be empty inside that they have to construct enemies to consume in order to find their place in life.

[SF Bay Area Dem]

95. How come I miss all of the trolls??? (before mods give them the ole boot!)

This thread looks like it hit a record for freeper trolls being booted! I miss everthing!

[tavalon]

137. Actually, even though this was a really simple worm

as Bouncy called it, I think there were only two who took the bait. I've seen better, but come to think of it, the threads that I remember that were better at baiting them were also from BB.

[FSogol]

123. You forgot wives. He's on #4.

[Catherine Vincent]

91. Probably not enough sex.

[AuntiBush]

92. You were Reading my Mind!

What few (thankfully) Repugs I know of, each one of them is angry. I'm at a point where I can tell publically who's an angry Repuk and who's not.

Repuks are mad at the whole world. Whereas, those that smile, open doors etc., turn out to be Dem's, or at least against what's going on if you pay attention to the remarks they make in passing.

I've been asking the same thing... "What are they mad at about?" They won. I don't get it.

Please, someone explain this one to me, as well.

Excellent Posting, I might add!

[AuntiBush]

93. Forgot to mention: Not 1 Whining Repug Wants to

Send their sons, son-in-laws, or themselves to Iraq, though.

Not 1. Typical Repuglican hypocracy! Hypocrites and what's with the wording on this poster referring to all Du's??? Please explain?

[BeHereNow]

102. No, of course not! They only want to jaunt about

town with their smart little ribbons on their
SUV's urging us all to "Support the Troops!"

IF they actually supported the minority and
poverty class troops being illegally used by the corporate
masters, THEY WOULD GET THEIR ASSES DOWN TO THE NEAREST
RECRUITING STATION AND ENLIST TO GO SHOULDER TO SHOULDER
WITH THE TROOPS THEY CLAIM TO "SUPPORT" WITH THEIR HYPOCRITICAL
LITTLE BUMPER STICKER ADORNMENTS.

But then we all know that will never happen.
Those who actually DO support the troops
have only one message:
"BRING THEM HOME, NOW."

BHN

[Name removed]

94. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Bouncy Ball]

101. If you don't see it, you haven't been looking around, reading

or listening.

They control almost EVERYTHING and yet listen to repukes on the floor of Congress. You'd think the devil himself were trying to chase them down.

Listen to ANY right wing pundit on tv or radio. The EVIL libruls! The EVIL Democrats, who are really just communists in disguise! (LOL)

EVIL Hollywood! Jesus haters EVERYWHERE! AHHHH!! Whatever shall we do?

It's totally fear and loathing 24/7. And everyday repukes reflect that. It's like they HAVE to be victims even when they have everything! LOL!

It's crazy. :crazy:

On edit, why do five out of your eight first posts here have, as the title line, a one word title which I assume are pulled from other languages?

Saleo
Krantier
Resherad
Amagaia
Shazreitai

Are you being deliberately obtuse or what?

And yes, repukes act like babies who just dropped their pacifier. Sorest winners and biggest hypocrites I've ever seen in my life.

[earth mom]

100. Good question....

I don't think rethug/freepers will be happy even when everyone in Iraq is annihilated or the poor are off welfare, kicked out of section 8 housing and living in the streets...and so on and so forth with their endless drivel. :eyes: They blame everyone else for their own unhappiness-when the first place they should be looking is is in the mirror-at themselves.

[Stirk]

103. It's very simple. The modern Republican Party speaks to the

lowest qualities of human nature.

Republicans motivate their base with fear, hatred, and greed. That is what they sell. They appeal to the fearful, the hateful, and the greedy. Those types of people are never happy. How could they be?

[mopaul]

106. they want ALL the toys, & they want all of us to go home

fuckem

[Bouncy Ball]

118. You brought back the swirling bush toilet head!

One of my favorites, and a classic!

:toast:

[tavalon]

139. Love the graphic!

[Vinca]

107. The weird part of it all is that the lousy things happening to us

are also happening to them! Their jobs are going to India, their health insurance is unaffordable, their fish is filled with mercury, their gas costs a fortune, their kids are left behind, their retirement is in peril, their chance to get out of a financial hole is kaput, their sons and daughters are being killed and injured in a war based on lies and they're watching the same super wealthy, miniscule percentage of the population get big tax cuts. Maybe I can understand why they're miserable, but I sure don't understand why they're still Republicans.:shrug:

[DIKB]

108. It's a combination

of an abusive relationship w/ the Repuke party, and the "Victimhood" complex. By not allowing the reich wing to have complete and utter GODLIKE control of the country, we're victimizing them.

Proof that all the blame falls on us: Given that the Shiavo situation was all right-wing infighting (fundies vs. libertarians), yet they STILL blamed the left for it.

They're too stupid to realize the left is pretty much powerless at the moment, and they're fighting each other. Combine that with Corporate media propaganda and disinformation, and they likely will never wake up. They are lost, practically brain dead.

Just as I would consider a brain-dead person dead for good, any right-wing member of my family is considered dead to me. Harsh ? Maybe, but they've had TOO MANY opportunities to wake up.

[Vinca]

144. We ought to stay on the sidelines watching as they consume

themselves. Actually, given the numbers, that's about all we can do. At some point sanity has to prevail. If not, there's always that Canadian immigration web site. (As for the relatives, I don't blame you. I'm lucky - mine are all lefties.)

[smoogatz]

109. They know their hold on power is based on lies, deception and vote fraud

and the ignorance and complacency of the American people. Their power is illegitimate, and their true agenda is unpalatable to the majority and way out of touch with mainstream American values.

[Dawgs]

110. It's as simple as they can't stand anyone not thinking like them...

As long as gays, liberals, democrats, "activist judges" don't think like them, it will drive them nuts.

[tavalon]

140. And if these folks ever do

they will find something else to be driven crazy by. It's what they do.

[goodresearch]

112. valid research techniques

I realize that this is a political forum, so I realize that seeking the actual truth may not be the primary goal. That being the case I apologize in advance for having an opinion different from you guys.

That being said, you have been warned. (actually, I imagine this thing will get deleted pretty quickly, but what can you do?)

As a general rule, if you want to do valid research, you collect as much information as objectively as possible. That being done, you draw conclusions based on the facts you have collected.

In this case, the question is a inquiry to the freeper state of mind.
Valid research would consist of asking freepers that very question. Once you have facts you can draw conclusions.

You guys seemed to have skipped the first step, and gone directly to the second step. Sorry, but it is not valid inquiry if you are not committed to reviewing actual facts. Sharing similar conclusion with your like minded friends is really nothing more valid than gossip.
Looking over this post, there seem to actually be freeper responses.
They have been consistently deleted. However, the DU'ers do not seem shy at all about developing conclusions in the absence of evidence.

I can see how in a political forum you would not want to spend a lot of time entertaining the opinions of your opponents. But in this case, you have specifically asked for them. Considering that you delivered the invitation, it seems rude not to hear them out.

In fact, if you are interested in serious inquiry, it might actually benefit you to hear a viewpoint that differs from your own.

[ariellyn]

114. There is nothing to validate...it's common sense. The premise

remains that Amerika is totally controlled by the right wing--a party that works its supporters into crybabies for no good reason. There is nothing that cannot be changed, if the Reich wing doesn't like it in Amerika today--and yet all we get from them is fear and hatred. You'd think the supporters could see past the psyops/psychological warfare that pits supporters against everybody who disagrees. They want you to believe that the democratic party and any other opposition are the problem. The problem is their policies--even republicans don't buy their agenda 100% of the time...so we have these antics to keep everybody at each others throats.

(This is not well written, I don't have time to do better, but it pretty much captures what I am trying to say.)

[goodresearch]

116. I'm not sure you understand my point

Clearly you have a set of opinions, and you also have a forum to help you validate those feelings. There is nothing at all wrong with that.

What I was not understanding, and still don't understand is why in the world you would ask someone their opinion, and then delete out all their responses.

This might seem harsh, but the whole process seems a little intellectually dishonest. However,I do realize that this is a political forum, not a research institute.

[Catherine Vincent]

125. You know, quite a few of us would like a DU group where

freepers and the like can post their opinion and not get it deleted. We could debate and who knows, we may end up tolerating each other. But the rules specifically states this is a board for progressives. I used to post when CNN had message boards and there were freepers and Democrats posting and debating together. Sure there were shouting matches and name-calling (mostly from the repukes) but all in all, it was good. I kind of miss that.:-)

[walldude]

133. Well if you look at my previous post

I think it was #20 or #21 there are some quotes in the article I posted that lend creedence to BB's statement that the right-wing is unhappy. We really have no need to "ask freepers" they get their insane opinions spouted off daily by their shills. It's obvious to anyone who can read, the research is already done. We come here to find an oasis of sanity in an increasingly insane ocean of rhetoric and lies. I notice your reasonable discussion didn't get deleted. I often wish there was a place to read the deleted posts so people like you could understand why they were deleted.

[Bouncy Ball]

119. I got another one!

The hits just keep on comin!

Hey did you notice the part of my post where I said "I know you can't post here. But I know you read this site..."

That should have clued you in to the fact that this was a RHETORICAL QUESTION, not a research proposal.

This is a board for progressives and other like-minded people and it's a privately owned website, the owners can and have set up posting rules and it looks like you are violating them by posting here.

There are plenty of other places on the internet you can debate people of all political flavors and many DUers do that, but HERE is where we talk amongst ourselves.

Buh-bye!

[tavalon]

143. Now, wait a second Bouncy

even if this one is a freeper, he/she is not breaking the rules. If either of these posts get deleted, I will be mortified (now, I understand that if this poster gets tombstoned for spouting freeper crap later that the posts will get deleted) because, while he/she expresses an opinion that disagrees, disagreement alone should not ban a person.

[goodresearch]

147. What Me?

You seem to believe that I have broken one of the rules of this board.

Can you be more specific?

It couldn't be this one could it?:

Do not post "flame bait" discussion topics. While there is no clear line regarding what constitutes flame bait, the moderators have the authority to shut down threads which they consider too rhetorically hot, too divisive, too extreme, or too inflammatory. Please use good judgment when starting threads; inflammatory rhetoric does not normally lead to productive discussion.

Or this one?

Do not publicly accuse another member of this message board of being a disruptor, conservative, Republican, FReeper, or troll, or do not otherwise imply they are not welcome on Democratic Underground. If you think someone is a disruptor, click the "Alert" link below their post to let the moderators know.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3495790#3496135

[Bouncy Ball]

158. When the person comes out and admits they are a freeper, they

are fair game. And I never called anyone a freeper in this thread.

The title and the question, again, are RHETORICAL. Do you see? Rhetorical.

And you seem to be violating a posting rule here.

[tavalon]

142. Even if you are a freeper

this post won't be removed because you followed the rules. The freepers who were deleted were not following the rules.

Honestly, BB was asking a rhetorical question so while it may look to you like an answer was wanted, it really wasn't. BB knows as well as we do that the freepers have a persecution complex. I think secondarily, BB was hoping that just one freeper (many, many, many lurk here) would read the post and actually have an epiphany. Not likely but hey, I say shoot the moon.

[Kerrytravelers]

156. At 3 posts, you might want to get to know the board better.

It was a joke. It's funny to us how mad they are considering how much they have. We are all quite capable of doing research and posting links/statistics, etc. If yo'd lurked around more, you would have seen that. :eyes:


:boring: Moving on...

[newportdadde]

115. You can hear them chanting.. my precious...

Bush got elected on ignorance, fear, hate and paranoia. Those types of traits won't go away now that they have been elected. If anything it gets worse, now it focuses on KEEPING that power... FOREVER. And once you have that kind of power it taps into a whole new level of paranoia and fear.

[TWiley]

120. Republicans, like Christianity, needs ENEMIES in order to survive.

Without "Satan right there in the woodpile" they will soon begin attacking and killing themselves.

[malmapus]

122. Heh, I've been hearin alot about healthcare lately

Yup yup, future sister-in-law was talking to finacee about health care problems that her and one of her friends are having. I was trying very hard to bite my lip and not say anything.

Of all the people in the world, people who voted and openly support Bu$h have no right to complain about health care or lack there of.

[barb162]

138. my pug neighbors do it all the time

They suck the system dry and whine about it at the same time.

[Cats Against Frist]

124. They're angry because they're kept angry

by their right-wing elitist "ivory tower" handlers. That's how they reeled in the constituency, in the first place -- by tapping into underlying feelings of failure, fear, entitlement, powerlessness, racism, that some big bad "other" was coming for them. If they're not angry, they're not going to turn out. It's that simple.

Their opinion leaders -- Coulter, Limbaugh, North, Savage et. al. are still angry -- and right-wingers are simply totalitarian automatons who follow the medicine show from town to town -- or broadcast to broadcast. And lest you think that it's only the loony radio commentators that are playing the "anger" game -- high profile wingnuts, such as Frist, DeLay, Santorum and a whole host of other crazy ideologues have been very visible, as of late, crying about persecuted Christians and the "culture of life," which they know about as much about as they know happiness and satisfaction.

The reason the GOP has consolidated power has nothing to do with politics, community, patriotism, pride, or an enduring spirit of a deity, etc. -- and that's why you can't rationally trace it to anything. It all comes down to psychological profiling of the Republican constituent: scared, unsatsified, bigoted, powerless, "wronged" by some imaginary force (women or minorities, usually), stubborn, poorly educated, consumerist, etc. Of course, that's only a part of the reason they are winning -- there are others -- they've branded the party to be "strong" and "rich" and who doesn't want to identify with that? That's how they manage to make strange bedfellows out of an elderly fundamentalist out for a stoning, and the subscriber list of Maxim magazine.

If nothing else -- the Republicans prey on the psychological weaknesses of their constituency. The right-wing intellectual elite are smart -- and they hide well -- and they're able to spot a wounded lamb when they see one. The only problem is, that the wounded lambs don't know they're wounded -- or delusional -- or being fed statist, authoritarian propaganda by a crack team of societal elites with roots back to pre-enlightenment Europe -- who are cleverly disguised as standing for "freedom" and "liberty."

They're angry because they're MADE to be. That is how they're the most useful.

[MissB]

127. Excellent post, Cats Against Frist.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

136. They're control freaks and won't be happy until EVERYONE submits

Many of these people are total control freaks. If there is one person out there who refuses to "bend" to their will or who do anything that doesn't agree with their agendas - they go wild.

The won't be happy until they have a COMPLETE dictatorship.

Repubs tend to be more Conformist. Everyone is supposed to be the same.

Dems are more like cats. They are into freedom and independence and are more often non-conformists.

[barb162]

149. I'm a firm believer in what you wrote

They do NOT like it if they sense in the slightest way you don't agree with them. (THat's why I have 4 cats)

[barb162]

148. they're angry because you're don't like going with "the program"

You were supposed to have a sign in front of the house in November that said "Bush/Cheney"

Remember the movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"

CONFORM

[F.Gordon]

150. Judging by the variety of good responses

I'd say no one is quite sure. Was discussing this very topic a week ago. Why are they unhappy, bitter, and ANGRY?

In the months following the election I would run into a repuke "friend" or two expecting them to gloat and taunt...but they didn't. They seemed subdued .... like they just had sex with a barnyard animal and the guilt was waying heavily on them.

Good question OP. I'd like to know the answer myself. I don't get it.

[forgethell]

151. They're not unhappy.

I have to look at their smug faces everyday. They're happy. They won. Now they want to turn it into policy and Kennedy and the others are blocking it. But not for long, if I read the signs correctly. The 'bombs' about to fall on the filibuster.

Then they'll find something else they want to change. But they're not unhappy because, well, they are having a lot of success.

[CitySky]

152. first, the ones I know are too busy struggling

trying to figure out which medical bills to pay, etc., to celebrate.

second, they've been TOLD enough times that the media is "liberal" that they will believe it until their brains explode. that "liberal" corporate media will not give them enough information to connect the dots between the ascendency of the corporatocracy and their own measly human suffering.

[stpalm]

153. amen to that (nt)

[tammywammy]

155. Great post

I think they're just unhappy because democrats exist. They hate that someone out there doesn't believe exactly as they do.

[Kerrytravelers]

157. We need a terror alert!

That will cheer them up. They love to face "danger." A terror alert and all the media whoring that follows is exciting because then they can go on and on and on about how persecuted America is.

Someone alert Homeland Security.

[jandrok]

159. Dang. No Freeps have posted to this thread for a while now.

I was really enjoying watching Bouncy clean their clocks. Fun while it lasted, though.

Good times, Bouncy, good times.

[Old and In the Way]

160. Their team is winning the Super Bowl!

While they're cheering them on, their team is busy cleaning out their homes and draining their bank accounts.

To be fair, not all Republicans are unhappy. There are 5% or so that are benefiting enormously from this administration. The rest of the poor saps that vote against their best interests....well, they'll have to be satifisfied with their Super Bowl teeshirt. And the 5% will continue to pay Rush and his ilk millions of dollars to keep the focus on other team as the "bad guys".

So keep the beers (or kool aid) flowing and the cheerleaders screaming the chants; soon the game will be over and then "the winners" will have to sober up.