Are the neoCONs contracting services that are otherwise grossly criminal?

[Just Me]

Work with me, if you will.

Last night, as thoughts were spinning around up there in my insomniac mind, a sort of mental video starting running through my mind and it won't go away.

This "mental video" included a meeting of the key neoCON players concerning how to go about "bypassing" (eg abridging/violating) a number of US laws which got in their way of global economic domination. However, there were other big wig corporatists representing a number of industries: security/intelligence, energy, technology, weapons manufacturers, major (world) bankers, financiers.

They were working together to find ways for the US government to contract "services" which, if performed by the government would be appalling criminal violations of US Constitutional and other laws. Moreover, they were ensuring that the corporations would be held harmless from any lawsuits and some other criminal caveat was "suspended" (almost like a form of immunity was being granted).

How would these MO-FO neoCONevilfucks go about violating the law via private contracts? Any which way such a scheme is possible, you KNOW they have been doing it and are doing, right now.

[knowbody0]

1. what's that saying?

your thoughts are your reality. me too. me too.

[punpirate]

2. You can start with...

... Executive Order 13303.

Cheers.

[Liberty Belle]

3. Link, please?

[punpirate]

16. Just Google the phrase...

... you'll find links to the order and to many opinions on it.

Cheers.

[Just Me]

4. Thanks. Noted.

I still suspect that they are doing more secretive, deceptive manuevars (after all, an Executive Order is of record). But, all those EOs certainly must play into their conspiracy to violate the law of the land. After all, their game isn't about "democracy" at all,...it's about power,...which, whether their fucked up minds will acknowledge or not, is really a form of tyranny.

These neoCON TYRANTS must face their fate!!!!

[RPM]

5. Is the pope polish?

I guess that is kind of a trick question these days...

[Just Me]

6. It's only a trick question if you don't have the facts.

Can we access every contract entered by the exec, the DoD and all branches from that increasingly orchestrated and controlled body?

[RPM]

7. i meant the question about the pope

:-)

[spanone]

8. You mean like outsourcing torture??? You bet they are.

[Just Me]

12. No. There's more,....I'm sure, well, I just instinctively know,...

,...there's more! The "outsourcing" was pretty evident even BEFORE the prison scandals. Those were outside our "boundaries". Those actions violated our laws, but were outside our continent.

The PR/marketing contracts are grossly explicit.

They all thinly veil treason.

However, there are more. I believe (I just do,...having an intuitive side) there are contracts intentionally entered to abridge the laws of this land. Government-sponsored contracts that would make Enron and Worldcom look sheepish,...or, perhaps, a part of the fold of abject treason.

[Biology]

9. Correct

By outsourcing many of these things, the corporations are (in effect) exempt from the Geneva convention and some of the other military code of conduct rules. Very Christian.

[DistressedAmerican]

10. One Rather Overt But, Seldom Mentioned Issue Is

the use of civilain contractors. These peole carry guns and kill folks under US contract. They are in mo way bound by the Geneva Conventions (oh yeah, niether is the military). It is a recepie for abuses!

[seemslikeadream]

19. Dogs of War

BLACKWATER USA IS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE PRIVATE TACTICAL TRAINING FACILITY IN THE
UNITED STATES.

http://blackwaterusa.com/

[Just Me]

20. I wonder if there is a recording of Cheney's secret energy meetings.

If so, a leak of that monster would lead to the most explosive political fallout in US History, I'll bet.

[mmonk]

11. Yes

That way, they think they can hide from accountability.

[Just Me]

13. Kicking for DU problem-solvers.

[applegrove]

14. Called outsourcing.

[spindoctor]

15. It won't be long until we outsource our entire war machine

No more grieving parents, and in (the rare) times of peace we don't have to pay the bill and they can go and fight for other countries.
It's a win-win situation.

[Just Me]

21. What if they are privatizing intercontinental spying and political prying?

They've been doing that outside our country for decades: spying and political manipulation.

However doing that here would constitute a conspiracy to violate provisions of the Constitution of the United States which is treason.

[sandnsea]

17. Like slave labor in the Marianas?

Forced abortion? Yes.

I've thought for a long time that the real danger of privatization and tort reform is that there will be NOBODY we can hold accountable. Effectively eliminates right to redress because the government won't be doing any of the things that we might want to complain about. Some corporation will be, plausible deniability for the government. A $250,000 cap and federal class actions are no way to hold corporations accountable. Pretty clever way to throw out the Bill of Rights.

[Just Me]

18. There is something insidious about a government making deals,...

,...in order to avoid criminal liability for actions which would certainly constitute treason and "high crimes and misdemeanors if the government acted directly rather than through a corporation.

The actual contracts are part of the evil,...the meetings for brainstorming on how to go about brushing away the laws of the land are the darkest shadows of the matter.

[Just Me]

22. How's bout contracting economists to cook "taxpayer" books,...

,...or "public relations" firms to intentionally manipulate public perception? Contracts with private companies to intentionally MISREPRESENT facts and reality,...would constitute TREASON if done by a public official. Such an arrangement, particularly if it advantaged the "representative" now and later,...would be PURE TREASON.