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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:32 PM
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Vatican press office closed now - hmmm...
No announcements for still more hours now?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:33 PM
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1. Yea, MSNBC said til 9:00 Vatican time
that's like two and a half hours.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:34 PM
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3. I shall stay up until then
I have to get up at 7 to get ready for an Early Bird BAR/BRI session, but who cares?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:38 PM
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4. meh, I'm going to bed.
the world turns with or without me. :P
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:44 PM
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8. Go to bed. You'll get an answer when you wake up
and your Bar Review is far more important.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:42 PM
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5. Not going to make it until 1am Central
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:33 PM
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2. Just heard the same thing on MSNBC
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:42 PM
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6. No disrespect for the death of the Pope ...
but I believe the Vatican has held off making the official announcement of his death until April Fools Day has passed to stop any reference to it from those who may do so.

IMHO, I don't think the MSM was wrong this morning, it is simply that the Vatican will choose when to make it official.

I think it will happen just past midnight Washington, D.C. time although they could hold out till midnight Pacific time but that is doubtful, imo.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:43 PM
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7. I was thinking that too
I was hoping he wouldn't die on April Fool's Day - hopefully if he did, no one will make any jokes. (Well, I can dream, can't I?)
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:25 AM
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10. I never knew whether April Fool's was just an American thing or more
widespread.... Anyone know if this is a common reference/tradition in Europe?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:35 AM
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11. Excellent question, I hadn't thought about that, this is what I
have found re the history:

Unlike most of the other nonfoolish holidays, the history of April Fool's Day, sometimes called All Fool's Day, is not totally clear. There really wasn't a "first April Fool's Day" that can be pinpointed on the calendar. Some believe it sort of evolved simultaneously in several cultures at the same time, from celebrations involving the first day of spring.

The closest point in time that can be identified as the beginning of this tradition was in 1582, in France. Prior to that year, the new year was celebrated for eight days, beginning on March 25. The celebration culminated on April 1. With the reform of the calendar under Charles IX, the Gregorian Calendar was introduced, and New Year's Day was moved to January 1.

However, communications being what they were in the days when news traveled by foot, many people did not receive the news for several years. Others, the more obstinate crowd, refused to accept the new calendar and continued to celebrate the new year on April 1. These backward folk were labeled as "fools" by the general populace. They were subject to some ridicule, and were often sent on "fools errands" or were made the butt of other practical jokes.

This harassment evolved, over time, into a tradition of prank-playing on the first day of April. The tradition eventually spread to England and Scotland in the eighteenth century. It was later introduced to the American colonies of both the English and French. April Fool's Day thus developed into an international fun fest, so to speak, with different nationalities specializing in their own brand of humor at the expense of their friends and families.


more (for those who are interested)

http://wilstar.com/holidays/aprilfool.htm

and this:

April Fool's Day is one of the most light hearted days of the year, yet it stems from a serious subject—the adoption of a new calendar.


A Traditional New Year's


Ancient cultures, including those as varied as the Romans and the Hindus, celebrated New Year's Day on April 1. It closely follows the vernal equinox (March 20th or March 21st.) In medieval times, much of Europe celebrated March 25, the Feast of Annunciation, as the beginning of the new year.

In 1582, Pope Gregory XIII ordered a new calendar (the Gregorian Calendar) to replace the old Julian Calendar. The new calendar called for New Year's Day to be celebrated Jan. 1. Many countries, however, resisted the change. In fact, some European countries held out for centuries (Scotland until 1660; Germany, Denmark, and Norway until 1700; and England until 1752).


http://www.infoplease.com/spot/aprilfools1.html

Interestingly, it relates directly to the Papacy in Pope Gregory XIII's order of a new calendar which means, to me, that the Vatican would be VERY aware of the day and it's possible use.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-05 12:49 AM
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12. Yup... It certainly would appear that the Vatican would be very aware....
thanks for the history...
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 11:47 PM
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9. Ooooo.... You know, I'd just thought that they were taking
their own sweet time, just because they could, but you may have a point there.
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