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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:58 PM
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I've left specific legal end-of-life directives NOT to be admitted . . .
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I've left specific legal end-of-life directives not to be admitted . . . into any religious hospital or other institution who will not comply with my hospital care needs including end-of-life directives! For example, I will not be admitted into a Roman Catholic hospital. I REFUSE! Nor will I be admitted into any other religious institution or care-provider that would impede my end-of-life legal directives and intent.

And, I've chosen, and made damn clear to, my agent/proxy to never confuse religious tenets with any Right to Die with Dignity choices that I have . . . as in my legal end-of-life directives.

Hopefully, all DUers will retain a competent attorney in this area of law in their own state to write your end-of-life directives in compliance with your own state law and in compliance with your own intent.

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The Right to Privacy includes both
A Woman's Right to Choose, and
The Right-to-Die-with-Dignity

Keep the Government OFF our bodies and OUT of our bedrooms !
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daydreamer Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:02 PM
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1. It doesn't matter
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 07:03 PM by daydreamer
If you can't pay, they will unplug you automatically. At least that's law in Texas signed by Bush, isn't it?
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:06 PM
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2. Uuummmmmm, not being a practitioner in TX, I dunno . . .
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Uuummmmmm, not being a practitioner in TX, I dunno . . . However, I'd say that such a state statute would be found unconstitutional u/ our federal constitution. Why? Because it's a state action u/ the 14 amendment's Equal Protection Clause.


u/TX state law rich folks dying in TX can remain plugged in versus poor folks dying in TX must be unplugged = via what you've posted, anyway.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:48 PM
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4. the "escape clause" in the law
is that they give the family 10 days to find another facility.

What they don't tell you...is that unless you have funding, another facility won't accept you. :(
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:30 PM
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3. you know, it is amazing how the terry schiavo case is affecting each of us
in so many different ways.

I, for myself, could not think of having to go to any other hospital other than to HOLY CROSS...(a Catholic Hospital run by the Sisters of Mercy where many, if not most, of the doctors are JEWISH).

EIGHT YEARS AGO when I was there and needed surgery THEY ASKED IF I HAD A LIVING WILL, AND IF NOT, DID I WANT TO SIGN ONE. THEY SHOWED ME A LIVING WILL THAT I COULD SIGN.

At the time I was afraid to even think about death. (so from experience I believe that the best time to think about living wills and end of life directives is when you are healthy -- your thinking about those things is clearer--they can become clouded under the emotioanlity of actually facing such a situation). I did not sign a living will then--mostly because i could not emotionally face the possibility that i could die during surgery, or that something could happen to me during that surgery where i would remain a vegetable.

The daily Mass that was televised to the rooms (where patients could choose to watch or not) and the daily communion that the Eucharastic Ministers brought to those who wanted it, were the healing grace i needed...and if I had to go to a hospital where those things would not be there...i would then really die before i even died.

The hospital cannot refuse to follow your living will if you have one signed, and witnessed and they have a copy of it.

i have already downloaded a copy of a living will for myself, and another one for my husband. i am pondering downloading one for my son and for his livein girlfriend (while praying that they will not have to use theirs while i am alive) but knowing that it is sanity to have such documents signed.

Our friend XXXXX volunteered in a Catholic Hospital many years. When she became terminally ill, she wanted to have as natural an ending as possible. She chose to be taken care of at home by her family and the visiting nurses from hospice. HOLY CROSS was instrumental in providing her the care that she needed, in following her directions, and in having the EUCHARISTIC MINISTER from the HOSPITAL officiate at her memorial service.

Earlier today, I posted three different prayes from her memorial service. I am posting a different one here again this evening.

A Litany of Remembrance

WITH THIS PRAYER, WE LIGHT A CANDLE, SYMBOL OF LIGHT,
THE LIFE AND THE LVOE THAT XXXXX BROUGHT INTO THE WORLD,
WITH GRATITUDE, LET US REMEMBER HER NOW.

AT THE RISING OF THE SUN AND ITS GOING DOWN,
WE REMEMBER HER.

AT THE OPENING OF THE BUDS AND IN THE REBIRTH OF SPRING,
WE REMEMBER HER.

AT THE RUSTLING OF THE LEAVES AND IN THE BEAUTY OF AUTUMN,
WE REMEMBER HER.

IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND WHEN IT ENDS,
WE REMEMBER HER.

AS LONG AS WE LIVE, SHE TOO SHALL LIVE;
FOR SHE IS NOW A PART OF US, AS
WE REMEMBER HER.

WHEN WE ARE WEARY AND IN NEED OF STRENGTH
WE REMEMBER HER.

WHEN WE ARE LOST AND SICK AT HEART,
WE REMEMBER HER.

WHEN WE HAVE A JOY THAT WE LONG SHARE,
WE REMEMBER HER.

WHEN WE HAVE DECISIONS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO MAKE,
WE REMEMBER HER.

WHEN WE HAVE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT ARE BASED ON HERS,
WE REMEMBER HER.

AS LONG AS WE LIVE, SHE TOO WILL LIVE;
FOR SHE IS NOW A PART OF US, AS
WE REMEMBER HER.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:00 PM
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5. That prayer was beautiful and thank you for your story.
It brings back a lot of memories and I'll use that prayer.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:57 PM
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8. thank you. i am glad you find the prayer helpful.
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 09:59 PM by flordehinojos
:-)
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:04 PM
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6. I am quite sorry to report to you . . .
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I am quite sorry to report to you . . . that a Roman Catholic Church hospital or other facility may REFUSE to comply with your end-of-life-directives . . . if those directives run contrary to the religious tenets of the Roman Catholic Church. The RCC is protected u/ the first amendment to our federal constitution, which is WHY I raised this issue in the first instance.

FYI, this GWBush Administration is attempting to drive this exception "home" even further. How? Because GWBush wants to pass a federal statute/regulation that would allow healthcare-providers from being exempt on "moral grounds," not merely religious grounds!

Again, seek competent legal counsel in this area in your own home state to be assured of enforceable end-of-life-directives for yourself as well as all family loved-ones over the age of 18.


________________________________________________________

The Right to Privacy includes both
A Woman's Right to Choose, and
The Right-to-Die-with-Dignity

Keep the Government OFF our bodies and OUT of our bedrooms !
________________________________________________________


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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:07 PM
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7. I'm 48, and every one of my doctors
and my local hospital has a copy of my advanced health care directive. I'm not taking ANY chances.
I've also specifically written in that a certain person in my family is to have NOTHING to do with my last wishes. My brother would cause trouble, so he's off the list, period.
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