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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:40 PM
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Is anyone afraid or concerned
after Terri dies? I am! The neocons are going to go after everyone who opposed them during this ordeal. Last night when DU went down spooked me; my computer acted strange for about 10 minutes. When I tried to connect to DU at one time, my computer made a crackling sound. I thought my new computer was a goner. The other thing right before DU went down a pop up appeared on my screen and I had a difficult time leaving DU. I have one pop up that keeps appearing and I have a pop up block. I can't remember the name of the pop up but it starts with a V.

Is there a possibility that someone could hack into DU and obtain the personal information of everyone on DU? I know the pop up that kept appearing and is doing the same today is a communication pop up. I just delete it. Now way am I going to open it.

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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:42 PM
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1. Being afraid and concerned
is my default condition these days.

The real question is, when am I not afraid or concerned?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:04 PM
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28. Really
I'm always paranoid and afraid now days... :\ Just when I think it can't get darker. And I'm listening to the archived of Rhandi from yesterday and she's saying it's all about the judges and courts and the law of the land. Only thing the republicans don't have control over are the judges. That's what this is about and I agree. It's about controlling THE WHOLE LAND and what we do in our bedrooms, what we watch on tv, learn in school, etc. Pure control.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:43 PM
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2. Get Firefox
It's time for you to have a spiffy, paranoia-free, high-powered, popup-blocking browser.

www.mozilla.com

You'll love it.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:45 PM
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4. I love firefox - just upgraded last night to 1.2
It has definitely put an end to unwanted pop ups.

I am still trying to get used to java applications though.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:51 PM
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9. Make sure you check out
all the extensions.

http://tinyurl.com/56lbz

You'll be sailing along with it in no time at all. It makes IE look like the pathetic dinosaur it is.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:13 PM
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21. Thank you.
I will check on all the extensions! :hi:

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:51 PM
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10. I love firefox!
I get one pop up a week, and it's driving me nuts. It's one of the ones that say "your computer may be infected with spyware," but I run Ad-aware and SpyBot.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:54 PM
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12. What is strange is there are no other pop ups that appear
except for that one. Safari is okay, I really don't want to change at this point as I am still trying to acclimate myself to the OS9.2 to OSX Panther. Just think it is strange the same pop up appears and a communication one too. I receive the pop up usually while I am at DU..
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:33 PM
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25. Same here.
The ad you refer to is from Vonage. I have Safari set to block pop-ups and until recently it blocked them completely. Now there is usually one that manages to pop open. When I read your post I quit Safari and re-launched it and this time the pop-up didn't open.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:06 PM
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30. I have firefox and love it
It's the best. I still use internet explorer for a class I'm taking for an online program to do homework but everything else is Firefox. It's the best. :)
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:44 PM
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3. I couldn't get on here for an hour.
have the admins posted any explanation?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:46 PM
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5. Last night the entire internet was goofy - I couldn't get on to
any site and/or the delay time for downloading was excruciating.

Full moon? :shrug:

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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:59 PM
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16. not me.
I went to a bunch of other sites and had no problems anywhere except here. I did a spy sweep which found nothing. It was weird.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:00 PM
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18. Yes. Skinner mentioned this in ATA
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:08 PM
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32. That happened to me last night too
er early this morning I guess. But all the other website's worked fine so I figured it was something with DU.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:47 PM
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6. I suppose there is a way...
But I guarentee you that it would be very, very hard. The computers that DU is on are not just sitting on the net(believe me, I have used DU to run traceroutes, to test my connection speed and network latency). DU sits behind multiple firewalls and other security devices. Why? Well, one reason is that DU is DU. Another is that these days, it is just prudent.

You can be sure that DU also sits behind some very responsive and robust intrusion detection hardware as well. All in all, I wouldn't worry myself a lot about it.

Besides, you have a Mac, right? Macs are a LOT safer on the net than Windows machines are, because the core of the Mac operating system is FreeBSD, a very, very secure OS.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:25 PM
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39. Er...
I think the core of the Mac OS X is "Darwin", which is based on NetBSD.


"Prosperity is just around the corner." -- Herbert Hoover
"The economy has turned a corner." -- GW Bush

Herbert Hoover = GW Bush

Neither man cared about the Depression their economic policies created.

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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:48 PM
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7. It isn't the neo-cons it's the fundies.
They are two of the three legs of American fascism.

Big money being the third leg.

Switch to a different browser and do yourself a favor.
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:49 PM
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8. I was just thinking about that.
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 04:20 PM by Bethany Rockafella
I don't know what the reaction of the people at the hospice will be. I'm kind of worried about that and we all know their emotions are running on overtime too. It is sad that she has to die, that's why this situation should have been privately debated. Our government and the media had no business getting involved in this family's private matter.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:57 PM
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13. Yes it's the people at the hospice that worry me as well
They're also the ones that are the most invested in this (other than family members).
And what about the protesters that are on a hunger strike? Are they going to start eating again, or just wait to die like Terri?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:04 PM
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29. We can only hope.... n/t
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:53 PM
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11. No, not afraid of them in the least.
I actually would enjoy a confrontation, I believe.

As far as DU, I assumed some attack took it down, but it always comes back up. (I do wish we had a well known "secondary" site everyone could go to when this happens, tho).


And I'll give a second vote for Firefox. Best pop-up killer I've ever had on my computer.


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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:57 PM
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14. Isn't there a secondary place we can go to?
Perhaps I am wrong, but I remember reading at one time there was a place DU'ers could go to if the site disappeared. Just can't remember the place.

Is Firefox for the Mac's?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:39 PM
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41. You can always go to Smirking Chimp
That's where I usually go when this site is down. Lots of DUers hang out there. www.smirkingchimp.com
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:58 PM
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15. I'm WITH YA: let 'em come out of the woodwork and horrify people...
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:59 PM
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17. I have Firefox
and everytime I access DU, I still get one pop-up. Nowhere else, just DU.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:05 PM
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19. What worries me are the "who are you" threads
Threads that ask you to post pretty identifying info/pictures scare the shit outta me. Not all DUers asking questions are liberals being neighborly! People, this forum IS public.

Google your screen name sometime and see who has been following you and posting about you on other, less friendly boards.
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:27 PM
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24. They do it here too. Especially to the freepers
I saw a thread where someone posted a pic and making fun of how some of the freepers look (they were at some gathering). Childish, I know, but we'll have to take the chance of posting our pics.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:09 PM
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33. This thread has nothing to do with making fun of freepers
Read my thread again.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:06 PM
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35. Not talking about making fun of pictures. I am talking whacked out stalker
I seriously doubt there are any real DUers who try to track down freepers with the intent to harm. Expose them when they are lying bastards, yes, but not to harm them. I do not feel all of the wingers are as stable or morally balanced.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:11 PM
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20. Neocons vs Fundies - could we please get something straight?
"Neocon" does not = "Fundie"

The neocons are the folks running the administrations Foreign Policy they are not necessarily fundies although some of them might be. The term specifically describes those who strong military hawks who believe that America can spread democracy around the world by the use of military force and advocate the increasing American empire.

Fundies are the fundamental christian/evangelicals who are committed to their churches and their missionary activities of trying to bring christianity into the secular world including government. They may or may not be in alignment with the neocons but the neocon agenda is secondary to their primary agenda, which is fundamental christianity (family values, anti-abortion, anti-gay, etc).

Actually it's the "Right to Lifers" who we've been dealing with week. They are a sub-set of the Fundies but not all Fundies are "Right to Lifers." This is a far-right extreme group of Fundies but not all Fundies are extreme "right to lifers."

So among the right there are these various constituencies:
Traditional conservatives (aka paleo-conservatives)
Neo-conservatives
Fundamental Christians
Libertarians
Moderates

and maybe others that I'm not thinking of right now.


I bring this up because it's important to "know thy enemy" in order to mount effective opposition. If you've looked at the polls this week, you see that this week's issue is heavily weighted on one side, with a large majority of both the left and the right opposing the right-to-lifers. It serves us to know exactly which group (or groups, as the case may be) we on any particular issue.

For instance, many Libertarians are opposed to the Iraq war, and on that issue we have an ally from the right, but on other issues, such as the bankruptcy bill, we are in opposition to them.

Some of the Fundies were with on on the bankruptcy bill, now we are in opposition on Terry Schiavo.

It's hard to keep them all straight but just as we hate it when the right calls all of the left "socialists" or "communists" just because a few on the left hold those positions, we need to be precise in how we refer to our opposition.








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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:20 PM
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22. There are too many nut jobs around
and I can't them straight but I think these nutjobs know each and everyone of us very well.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:21 PM
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23. How about rightwingnuts or rethugs-sort of one name fits all...
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:07 PM
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31. Great comment!
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Hans Delbrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:37 PM
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26. Listen, let them come and get me
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 04:38 PM by Hans Delbrook
Fuck 'em. Maybe being raised Catholic has one big advantage - you're brought up to admire martyrs.

I'll post my name, my picture, whatever I want, and if anyone starts hounding me - well, I may go down but I won't go down w/out a fight. And I'll make at least a few of them sorry that they ever messed w/ me.

This is the America that George Bush has brought us to - we're as afraid for our liberty and safety as people would be under any totalitarian regime. Simply for speaking our minds and posting our opinions. Man, the founding father's MUST be spinning in their graves.

Is this the country that my Dad fought and was wounded for?? God, no wonder he's the angriest 81 year old man I know.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:58 PM
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27. It's the radical Christians that are the concern, not the neocons.
But it would simply be more of the same. What else is new? Both the neocons and the radical Christian right ALWAYS go after anyone who opposes them on anything. That's the problem with making everything such a crisis. People get tired of it.

But no, I'm not worried or concerned. We can never worry too much over what a mob will do when the rule of law prevails. They will do what they will do. And it won't change anything, except the public's perception of how nutso they are.

(I suspect the neocons will slither away...they know that politically this is not in their interest. The radical Christian right are another matter. They might bomb a few places. They will have more of what we are seeing on TV now. But they already bomb places and have dramatic tear jerking vigils on TV. What else is new?)
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 06:14 PM
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34. These nuts will not go away without
causing deep physical harm or pitting people against people which they are already doing.

I am one who is worried.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:09 PM
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36. I guess my point is...they do that already. This is just yet another
situation or cause for them. If it's not abortion clinics, it's hospices...or government buildings that have the 10 Commandment plaques...or something else. It's always something. I'm not worried. I'd feel better if we had the Nat'l Guard here instead of in Iraq. But we do have the police.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:44 PM
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37. Don't be worried
Just be careful.
If DU is acting weird, stay off for a bit.

There are a LOT of us, n2mark, so they have quite a job to do trying to keep ALL of us in line!


This used to be the emergency underground link:

http://eunderground.proboards29.com /


Don't know if it's active or not. Check it out and let us know?

Did you redecorate? I've been curious...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:02 PM
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38. That's really strange that you say that
Yesterday I got an instant message from another DU'er--a name I had never seen.
Wanted to know my email address.
I wondered what was up with that--been looking for a post from the name that asked me and I have never seen it before.
I don't have a star so I can't search for posts.
BTW, my DU went down last night too.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:34 PM
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40. I was concerned last night as well
It seemed to happen all at once and DU just stopped working. I exited and then couldn't get back in for about 45 minutes.

I feel as you do about the Schiavo fiasco and am very concerned about what will happen once she passes on.

I wish I could say that this stupidity will be over, but I think we've just seen the beginnings of some real insanity.


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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:42 PM
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42. Not afraid or concerned
a small group of zealots can't take on 82% of the population (the percentage that disagrees with them on this issue, according to polls). Don't give them so much power; they're a vocal lot, but they're still a small minority.
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