Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Fox News' new name: The Psychic News Network

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:52 PM
Original message
Fox News' new name: The Psychic News Network
Fox News declares, "Real journalism: fair and balanced."

Psychic John Edward appeared in person as a guest on the March 24 broadcast of "Fox & Friends" on the cable channel.

The psychic announced about Terri Schiavo, "She's definitely clear on what's happening now around her."

The problem with this: All psychics are frauds.

Fox News isn't "real journalism" or "fair and balanced."

Let's call Fox the "Psychic News Network" as a takeoff on Dionne Warwick's "Psychic Friends Network."

To watch Jon Stewart of "The Daily Show" present cable tv video clips including of the psychic go to the blog "Crooks & Liars."



(above from the blog MOVELEFT.COM)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. A while back...
... I made the joke that all Fox needed to do to be a mirror of the company in the movie, "Network," was to add a "Sybil the Soothsayer" segment.

Guess the joke's on me.... Now, if they come up with a contemporary terrorist equivalent of the Ecumenical Liberation Army, I'm going to lapse in media-induced paranoid schizophrenia.... :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. I haven't seen "Network" in a long time, but I should probably
watch it, again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:16 PM
Response to Original message
2. Yes, when Jon finished with that clip, my jaw hit the floor
Unfuckingbelievable!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. "Real journalism: fair and balanced"
In Bizzaro World.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:19 AM
Response to Original message
5. Isn't it funny
how the fundies are real real far into Christianity and psychics are supposed to be of the devil's work and they're now talking to a psychic about this? :eyes: Shows how desperate they are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:21 AM
Response to Original message
6. Wasn't there a psychic on The Howard Beale Show?
There was, as I recall.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. I need to watch Network again (nt)
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:00 AM
Response to Original message
7. Another angle to this
Perhaps John is referring to Terri's soul hovering around her body (aka OBE or its likes) ;)

BTW, I would not say that *all* psychics are frauds. I've seen cases (even witnessed by my hardcore militant atheist friends) where psychics were able to offer accurate information (no cold reading here, mind you). That being said, there's a lot of BS in the psychic profession anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:02 AM
Response to Reply #7
14. I agree...the soul would be aware
That is so not the same as that her person is aware or that her soul would mind the body passing on.

As far as that goes John would say that if she were dead... Our soul and our bodies are not one and the same. I only heard the blurb on the Daily Show and in itself I would agree with it, though it sounds bad out of context. If I heard the whole interview I don't know if it would sound better or worse.

Our souls are much more aware then we are, whether we are wise and educated, a guru, a peasant or in a vegetative state.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:11 AM
Response to Reply #14
16. Is John Edward an expert on both the souls of the
dead and the souls of the living?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:59 AM
Response to Reply #16
17. no but
I am writing as though I am, and I am saying that the blurb I heard is essentially true. Of course her soul is aware, that just doesn't mean her soul wants the body to stay alive.

Since John's "specialty", faked or real, was communicating with the dead, claiming they had awareness even without the body, it means nothing that he'd say someone had it whatever shape the body was in. The soul is not the mind. But he also says that the dead aren't hung up on their death, it's the transition. I doubt he would claim it is important to her that the body remains alive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 05:00 AM
Response to Reply #7
18. I was appalled by him
My understanding was that he communicates with the dead. Therefore, when he said that she was aware what was happening, it would indicate to me that she (her spirit) had passed over and was indeed aware of what was happening (and probably outraged). If her soul is "hovering about," it means she cannot "pass over." He fucked up his own 'logic!'

BTW, I also agree that not all psychics are frauds. Even good ones can get it wrong. Hell look at the station we are talking about, they say they are journalists, but they sure ain't! And, even the few that are, do occasionally get it right. So why are psychics always expected to be "right on the nose?" :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #18
21. It's not a matter of asking someone who
claims to hear the voices of the dead to be correct 100 percent of the time.

The question is why John Edward can't just say what the dead are saying outright without fishing around for info guessing letters of the alphabet a dearly departed person's name might start with.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:02 AM
Response to Original message
8. CALL ME NOW!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:16 AM
Response to Reply #8
22. I think Miss Cleo is in Fl. too. -eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:04 AM
Response to Original message
9. I saw that Daily Show, it was hilarious
Could Faux sink even lower?? Yes of course.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:06 AM
Response to Original message
11. That John Edward's is soooooo full of shit!!!!
He misses way more than he hits! I can't believe people buy that crap!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. Reminds me of Chevy Chase in "Fletch".
Just ask enough leading questions and you get the right answers!

If they're a real psychic, why do they need to ask ANY questions? Just tell me the answers!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 04:08 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. Right. If people can
communicate from the dead, why do it through John Edward, and if through John Edward, why in such a pathetic manner?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 02:07 AM
Response to Original message
12. And info-mercials
Maybe this isn't new, I don't watch Faux if I can help it, but while station-hopping this afternoon we saw a woman doing a workout on the Faux News studio floor using two plastic plates, while the female anchor looked on and asked questions. They even gave a website name and showed the box so "you too can own your very own"!! It was really chintzy stuff -- the kind of thing I never imagined even Faux would sink to.

I'd block the damn station if my husband didn't rely on them so for getting to the car chases before everyone else.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:26 AM
Response to Original message
19. Here is the link to the Media Matters story on it:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:30 PM
Response to Original message
20. Media Matters for America clip- Fox's psychic friend:
Fox's psychic friend: Crossing Over's John Edward claimed Terri Schiavo is "definitely clear on what's happening now around her"

Psychic medium, author, and former television host John Edward claimed on Fox News' morning show Fox & Friends that Terri Schiavo is "definitely clear on what's happening now around her." Edward was responding to a question from host Steve Doocy about whether Edward could communicate with Schiavo.

Edward, whose website says that he has "helped thousands with his uncanny ability to predict future events and communicate with those who have crossed over to the Other Side," was on the show to promote his new book, Practical Praying: Using the Rosary to Enhance Your Life (Hay House, 2005). Edward was the host of the nationally syndicated TV show Crossing Over with John Edward, which aired on the Sci Fi Channel before being canceled in 2004. In October 2001, Edwards taped a segment of Crossing Over in which he "purport to contact victims of the World Trade Center attacks," according to a Washington Post article. But the episode was canceled for fear of offending the public. According to the Post, "production house Studios USA axed the whole idea after reporters and station execs -- the two least queasy segments of society -- actually cringed."

From the March 24 edition of Fox & Friends:


DOOCY: You mentioned the Terri Schiavo case. Some might wonder, "Well, you know what, I wonder if he could communicate with her."

EDWARD: I do believe that the soul, the consciousness, can communicate when they're in a state, whether it be a mentally incapacitated person, someone who's in a coma. It's a consciousness, and the soul has a living consciousness. So whether it's in a physical vehicle or not, there is still the ability to connect. Many people will have what they call out-of-body experiences, or astral dreams. Two very living people, that are healthy, could have a kind of connection in a dream state that can be validated. So why not somebody who's in this case?

DOOCY: So she may not be able to talk with her brain, but she can with her soul --

EDWARDS: But she's clear on what's going -- and I can tell you that she's definitely clear on what's happening now around her.




http://mediamatters.org/items/200503250006
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinterStorm Donating Member (790 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:42 AM
Response to Original message
23. "Wait, a minute"
They have journalists? I thought that their network was one long infomercial for the republicans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Dec 17th 2017, 12:52 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC