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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:10 PM
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Opinions on Jerry Springer being part of AAR??
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 07:11 PM by ailsagirl
I heard about it the other day and, to be honest, I have
reservations. I associate Springer with shock TV-- maybe
that's not the right expression, but with people who are
down in the gutter and will do anything for a buck. I have
seen (in passing only) some of the weird stuff that has
been on his TV show and was really appalled. You know,
people yelling and throwing chairs at each other and the
audience going wild... that kind of stuff.

Just tacky-- but perhaps I'm being too hasty in writing
him off.

But I'd hate to see the credibility/quality of AAR suffer.

Anyone else?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:12 PM
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1. I'm not happy about it
I have to think that there are a lot of better choices for a radio show than Springer.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:14 PM
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2. I'm disgusted.
That's all we need to do to lower the credibility of AAR among people who might otherwise be receptive to the message.

I'm completely, utterly uninterested in listening to his show, especially since it's replacing Unfiltered, which is my favorite.

FSC
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:16 PM
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5. Oh come on sis...give him a teeny tiny chance!
If only you had heard him last night on Randi Rhodes, it would have made all your concerns go away. I never heard unfiltered, but if you just listen to him once or twice, I think you'll feel differently.

Pleeeeeease??
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:26 PM
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31. Meh.
I'll think about it.

I get much of my news through the reprehensor filter anyway. He was just telling me today I need to check JS out because he did a lot better than r figured he would.

It's been either Unfiltered or KFOG from San Fran in the mornings. I may alternate just to see what the big deal is.

FSC
No promises!
:D


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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:14 PM
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3. I'm thrilled. I think Springer will do a ten times better job than Franken
Radio IS Springer's forte and he is an excellent host. The fact that he had such a hyperbolic show will only be a PLUS since he KNOWS the ignorance of the voting public and can speak to it.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:15 PM
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4. Really? You don't like Franken??
Just curious... how come?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:17 PM
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9. Franken is SLOW to make a point and gives up too much to the right
Often he allows them rope without really taking them to task.

Springer on the other hand is a MASTER at taking someone else's statements and turning them back on them. Really...*sings* ALL WE ARE SAAAAYING...IS GIVE JER A CHANCE :D
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:20 PM
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15. Be happy to-- do you know when he comes on??
That is, what date and what time??

I'll certainly give him a chance... provided my AAR station
carries him. Right now, I get Ed Schultz after Franken and
before Randi (though I know Schultz is from the Jones Radio
Network).
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:54 PM
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26. April 1, I think :)
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:18 PM
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11. I don't know about nsma, but
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 07:18 PM by T Roosevelt
to me he tries to hug the centerline, and not really piss off anybody with a controversial stance (kind of like a lot of the Democrats).
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:19 PM
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14. Unfortunately, they are not ditching Franken for Springer.... nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:17 AM
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36. I used to listen to Franken a lot
but now I'm just bored. :shrug: I like Jerry a lot better personally.
Al and Katherine are cool but I usually have to choose between Franken's repeat or Bernie Ward and I choose Bernie. I wish WhiteRose could archive Franken though.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:16 PM
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6. I don't think his credibility regarding politics is in question
and imagine how many red-staters who used to watch his show will tune in. I don't think it's a bad move on their part, and gives him a chance to shed his TV image while hopefully pulling along many who wouldn't normally listen to AAR.

Also, I think his show will be more easily marketed to radio stations - I know that Unfiltered wasn't carried by all the AAR stations, or wasn't carried real-time.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:16 PM
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I'm OK with it
As RUSH says, it's just entertainment folks...well supposedly anyway.

Give Jerry a chance, I've been impressed when I've seen him away from his television sideshow. If he offends or makes a jerk of himself then we just quote Rush, "It's just entertainment folks, you shouldn't take this stuff so serious.

If he draws an audience, makes money for AAR and converts a few lost souls so much the better.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:16 PM
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7. Anybody heard anything about Rachel Maddow's fate?
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 07:18 PM by rocknation
I'm hoping she'll join the morning sedition crew, or failing that, get a weekend slot.

:headbang:
rocknation
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:20 PM
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16. Keep up to date with her website (kind of barren right now)
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:21 PM
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17. Rumor she may go to OutQ, the Sirius G/L stream...
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:17 PM
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8. Agree
His show is a forum for dysfunctional and out-of-control people to scream at each other, hurl insults and reveal waaaaay too much sexual information about themselves and other guests.
Rush, Hannity and the other "values posse" will have a field day with this if it's true, and I think it damages the credibility of AAR as a progressive alternative to all the right wing talk on the dial.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:17 PM
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10. Springer is a brilliant man and a liberal.
Don't judge the man by his sleazy TV show. I honestly don't know why he did it either and for so many years, but I guess it has something to do with making a living. He's actually a very articulate spokesman for the left wing.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:25 PM
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19. Just read some interesting things about him...
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 07:28 PM by ailsagirl
Springer's Talk Radio Show to Expand
By LISA CORNWELL, Associated Press Writer

=snip=

Springer's television show debuted in 1991, building its ratings on raunchy topics and featuring a lineup that includes pimps, prostitutes and skinheads.

"A lot of people know him only as the ringleader in a TV show where they throw chairs," said Taylor. "I think he is looking ahead to his legacy with his radio show. He wants people to know that he is someone who can talk about serious issues."

Some observers have seen Springer's radio show as a springboard for the Democrat's possible return to politics in 2006, either in a run for governor or a Senate seat.

Springer, 61, was elected mayor of Cincinnati in 1977 and made an unsuccessful bid for the Democratic nomination for governor of Ohio in 1982. He also worked as a television political commentator and reporter in Cincinnati.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/0...


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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:18 PM
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12. I was not happy but
Jerry did not disappoint me when he covered for Randi Rhodes. That is about all I can say.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:18 PM
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13. JS is fantastic and will blow "Unfiltered" away
Lizz quit & Chuck is never there anyway.

His TV show is an act. He is, surprisingly, quite a serious guy. He is lawyer and an amazing politician.... extremely progressive & pro labor.

You ought to research Springer first (or listen to his show, it's on the net) before you bash him.

http://www.springerontheradio.com/
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:23 PM
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18. Extremely disappointed, but I'll give him a chance
I see his past as an exploiter of misfortunate people.

He has had enough involvement in public sex problems that I can't see how anyone with credibility would want to touch him with a ten foot pole.

He was with that mother and daughter team after one of them pulled an 80 man gang bang.

He wrote a check to a hooker in Cincinati on a city check when he was mayor.

To me, I can't see why we would want to don this man's negative reputation and karma. I view him as a shock pimp who will do anything for money.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:26 PM
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20. I'll know when I hear him....
I HATE his TV show.. can't stay in the room with it, but I've heard him talk in other venues and I'm looking forward to what he does. (Does this mean that he's stopping that gawdawful brawl of a TV show? That all by itself would be enough for me to like him on radio)
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:28 PM
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21. I bet 80% of people who don't like the idea have never heard Jerry...
talk politics. The guy is pretty amazing.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:09 AM
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33. I would guess
it's even higher than 80%.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:29 PM
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22. i associate GWB with cocaine & alcoholism
but 51% of america said they didn't give a fuck. water under the bridge.

can't you give jerry the same consideration? after all, he's only in it for the money, which almost every american thinks is just peachy.

think of it this way; given MY experience of jerry springer while i was growing up in Cincinnati during the 70's, the bottom-feeding TV show is a bizarre anomaly; a clear, concious, winking phil-collins level sell-out. his liberal politics are the norm to me. i've heard him as mayor, as guest host for jerry galvin on WAIF (88.3, stepchild radio, one of the top 10 things that made my teenage years bearable), on sunday night commentary on WEBN (lunkhead rock station that sponsors the labor day fireworks blowout), and watched him as the NBC affiliate anchor through the 80's.

and remember, his liberal politics were POPULAR in CINCINNATI. that says more than you can imagine.

frankly, i feel jerry springer would be a better president than clinton was.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:45 PM
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24. LISTEN TO THIS PIECE ON SPRINGER
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:55 PM
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27. can i get to it later? 31 minutes is not do-able right now
but thanks fur the lynk
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:56 PM
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28. I knew next to nothing about Springer til i heard this.
Well worth the time.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:14 AM
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34. Anybody not familiar with Jerry's life story
please do listen to this. It's really illuminating. I knew nothing about him myself before hearing this but after I heard it, I became a big fan of Jerry's. I can't stand his TV show and really wish he would drop it....but, he didn't start out to create a trash TV show. He tried with serious topics and guests. No one watched. It really is well worth the 31 minutes to listen to this.

And, please all, do give him a chance. Listen to his show before you decide if you like it or not, if you think this move is a good one or not.

I, myself, think it's a wonderful move and I'm so happy for Jerry.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:43 PM
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23. Mixes feelings here, too
I think he'll do an intelligent job, not like his TV show. And, I think he'll draw in new listeners.

I do cringe at the possibility that folks will remember that when he was going to be on a TV news broadcast other anchors resigned in protest. Also, I wonder who he's going to bump off.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:45 PM
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25. So are you assuming that Jerry Springer is not intelligent enough to
understand that his tv show was pure entertainment? Should we also assume that Fred Gandy still thought he was Gopher from the Love Boat while he was in congress or Arnold can't tell the difference between the Terminator and the governor's mansion. Ronald Regan thought he was just in a movie the entire time he ran the White House? I guess I trying to figure out why you can't figure out that because someone had a stupid tv show or movie doesn't not mean they can't articulate a point of view beyond that.

Jerry Springer made a fortune the so called American way. He legally sold something that a lot of us couldn't get enough of. He has made mistakes in his life and would be the first to admit that. He is a friend to the liberal cause and an articulate one at that.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:56 PM
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29. I didn't mention anything about his intelligence...
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 08:01 PM by ailsagirl
For years, Jerry Springer has been synonymous with sleaze
TV. I certainly am not alone in making this association.

I amended my opinion once I read some background info about
him. And I now look forward to hearing what he has to say.


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:57 PM
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30. Jerry is an unabashed liberal if you can believe it. We have a big
table. Welcome, Jerry.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:29 PM
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32. I think he'll make a good addition.
He is a very smart man, articulate, well spoken. I also think that the simple fact that many people associate him with Shock TV will bring some people to listen to AAR that wouldn't have otherwise. Randi had him on the phone on her show I think yesterday, apparently they are good friends.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:16 AM
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35. I'm interested in seeing how it goes
At least trying something new. I'm sad that "Unfilitered" is going away. I wish they could move them to the weekends though cause there's nothing to listen to then. I'd love that even if it's just two days a week. I listen to Jerry's show on Tuesday's and Thursday's before I have class and enjoy it pretty well. He's not a Mike Malloy or Rhandi Rhodes but he's pretty smart and he handels callers pretty well even if they're republicans.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:20 AM
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I've heard bits of his show. It's good.
And not ONE trailer-park lesbian cat fight that I've heard.

Jerry on the radio is different from Jerry on Teee-Veeee.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:20 AM
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37. I've heard bits of his show. It's good.
And not ONE trailer-park lesbian cat fight that I've heard.

Jerry on the radio is different from Jerry on Teee-Veeee.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 12:20 AM
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38. I like it.
He is a very good speaker and can reach out to
working class voters in red states.

Maybe he can even bring back a few of them.
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