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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:19 PM
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DC's Inside Scoop: Frist's Schiavo Assertion At Odds W/ Christopher Reeve
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 07:22 PM by Hissyspit
...comments.

http://dcinsidescoop.blogspot.com/2005/03/frists-schiavo-assertion-at-odds-with.html

Bill Frist's hypocrisy has been pointed out in other threads, but I don't think I've seen anyone make the Schiavo/Reeve connection. Dr. Frist (I wouldn't go see him for an ailment!) has amazing hope for Schiavo's future, but when the stem cell issue was involved, he came to slightly different conclusions?

Frist's Schiavo Assertion At Odds With His Comments About Christopher Reeve
Frist's assertion that Schiavo could recover stands in stark contrast to his attacks on John Edwards for saying back in October that stem cell research could help people like Christopher Reeve walk again. Observe:

Frist on Schiavo Possibly Recovering: Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist several times questioned Schiavo's diagnosis, saying he had reviewed a videotape of her and her case file and wasn't sure whether she really was beyond recovery.

"Remember, Terri is alive. She is not in a coma," Frist said Sunday. "Although there are a range of opinions, neurologists who have examined her insist today that she is not in a persistent vegetative state. She breathes on her own - like you and me. She is not on a respirator. She is not on life support of any type. She does not have a terminal condition."

Frist Attacking Edwards: Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist attacked Sen. John Edwards for saying that stem cell research would enable people like Christopher Reeve to “get up out of that wheelchair and walk again.”

Frist responded on a conference call with reporters arranged by the Bush-Cheney campaign: "I find it opportunistic to use the death of someone like Christopher Reeve -- I think it is shameful -- in order to mislead the American people… We should be offering people hope, but neither physicians, scientists, public servants or trial lawyers like John Edwards should be offering hype.

“It is cruel to people who have disabilities and chronic diseases, and, on top of that, it's dishonest. It's giving false hope to people, and I can tell you as a physician who's treated scores of thousands of patients that you don't give them false hope."
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:24 PM
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1. GOOD catch!
Send it to Olbermann and Dean!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:17 AM
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17. Looking for his contact email. Brian Schiavo was just on Countdown...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:27 PM
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2. Frist has shown his colors on this one. He's a cheap suit.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:30 PM
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3. Or as we called it in the corporate world...
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 07:30 PM by mcscajun
...an Empty Suit.

He's a Bas-TARD! A lying, hypocritical waste product.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:57 AM
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20. Frist is to medicine...
what "Tom Hagen" of the Godfather series was to law -- an inside professional man to make things easy going for the family.

He lied his way into power, but has sacrificed whatever credibility he had as a medical professional when he opened his legs for George W. He has made an idiot of himself in the general medical community with his various fudgings of scientific information to suit the crusades of George W. He has made a further idiot of himself by making the bold claim that the tragic Mrs Schiavo, who literally lacks cerebral tissue, has higher functions and can be rehabilitated.

He HAS to know his various statements have been false -- but yet he continues to lie brazenly. If you do science, you HAVE to be honest; what Frist does is not science -- it is very low indeed, and I hope his lies will finally lay him low and expose these extremist bastards once and for all.....
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:33 PM
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4. Never see the light of day in the "liberal media"
it's a Repuke talking - so, despite contradicting itself, it's the "truth".
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:35 PM
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5. Yes, if only Terri Schiavo were being used as a poster girl to

support embryonic stem cell research, everyone at DU would be calling for Terri to live.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:22 PM
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6. You're wrong n/t
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:47 PM
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9. I doubt that I'm wrong about this and note that

you don't even try to prove your case.

DU loved Christopher Reeve and mourned his death in numerous threads because he talked about how embryonic stem cell research would make him walk again.

Apart from embryonic stem cell research, DU in general shows zero interest in people with disabilities/ issues affecting the disabled, i.e., it's not about helping the disabled, it's about legitimizing the use of human embryos.

Terri Schiavo gets no sympathy here because she can't speak and say she wants to be well and because no one has appealed for embryonic stem cell research to help people like Terry.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:07 PM
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10. Wouldn't help anyways....
Not in her case, see, its about taking it on a case by case basis, and drawing conclusions on the FACTS of each case. Terri is for all intents and purposes already dead. Regrowing the brain means you have a new individual, a blank slate that would have to be filled, even if it were possible in the near future. Right now her body is an empty shell, and to be honest, I find your tone and attitude insulting. "Terri Schiavo gets no sympathy..." my ASSS!!!!!!
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:43 PM
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14. Her tone is insulting.
And I'm getting tired of it.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:06 AM
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22. No sympathy?
Yes, I have sympathy for Mrs. Schiavo. Her tragic condition has been turned into a political football, an opportunity for grandstanding, gossip talk for us and the rest of the country, and generally a big, ugly three-ring media circus.

I have sympathy that she has not been allowed to pass quietly, privately, and with her dignity intact. Instead her image has been splashed on every newspaper, magazine and TV screen across this country, her life has been dissected for the info-tainment of the masses, her husband and her parents have all been attacked, and millions of people sit in their armchairs and spout on and on as if they have some right to decide what should happen to Terri Schiavo.

We don't have that right. And those who do have already made the decision. And still it gets dragged on and she continues to be in the spotlight. None of us should ever even have heard of Terri Schiavo.

You bet I have sympathy for her.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:42 PM
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13. Terri CAN'T be used as a poster girl for stem cell research.
The capability to grow brains from stem cells and then implant them is not even in our lifetime if it is ever possible. We blood thirsty murderers clearly have a better understanding of science and medicine. If there were a chance that stem cells would help her now, I'm thinking she would be treated, and this fight between the courts and her parents would never have happened.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:00 AM
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16. You used the term "everyone"
right there, you're wrong. And most people understand that her brain is too far gone for anything to help it. I, and many people want to see this end, so that Michael and the Schindlers can finish their grieving. Stem cell research, while important, has no bearing here.

BTW, I'm a nightshifter, so after I wrote my short (concise actually) note, I went back to bed.

So there.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:23 PM
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7. good catch!
!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:33 PM
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8. A Republican? Dishonest and Hypocritical?
Say it ain't so.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:39 AM
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23. Indeed, Sir
With this revelation in hand, perhaps we should look tomorrow to the west for the rising sun....

"Hypocrisy is the tribute Vice pays to Virtue."
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:07 PM
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11. ANYONE that cant see this hypocrisy is in a permenent vegetative state!
its amazing isnt it... I have a theory, the farther right wing you are.. the less you understand irony.. I think its because if you think everything is as god intended.. nothings ironic.. it just is, its not like they understand the world around them.. I mean these people dont seem to understand the concept that Terri has very little brain left... shes gone.. he soul passed on, its just a body!

So heres a good question for anyone you might meet that wants her to live... Would you want your family to take care of your body for as long as possible if you had no brain.. gone.. removed!? The problem is they are being feed info that leads them to think otherwise, and if you can get someone to see that... ! It can happen.. just keep spreading the word!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:31 PM
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12. Tell him what you think of him here:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:45 PM
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15. The fascist wing whackos lie too much
to keep anything straight. What a waste of human intelligence(?)..frist is!
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:49 AM
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18. Laura Bush made speech giving identical position
Like Frist, she said she didn't want silly folks getting their hopes up for some unlikely pie-in-the-sky breakthrough. Pretty much advised people, in her warm smiling matronly way, to forget they ever heard of stem cell research being the next major medical epoch.

She pissed me off big time with her idiotic and false remarks -- having watched my mother decline into Alzheimers....

Interesting that George and Jebbie are floundering in this hot button issue now, but that they have not called out Mother Laura to echo what great ideas those two boys have. That speaks volumes.... And as ruthless as Bar is -- she would box the little shits' ears if they dared to ask her to speak on behalf of keeping the tragic Mrs Schiavo on life support.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:53 AM
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19. I remember her saying that stuff and thinking: And you are qualified to...
speak on this because why exactly?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:04 AM
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21. Poster for a TS protest
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 01:05 AM by Behind the Aegis
It would be nice if someone took a clip of that, put it on a poster, and showed up at the site to remind people. Just edit it to say..."I find it opportunistic to use the death of someone ... -- I think it is shameful -- in order to mislead the American people… We should be offering people hope, but neither physicians, scientists, public servants or trial lawyers...should be offering hype." -- DR. Bill Frist on using death for political gain! Never hurts to point out their hypocrisy!
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