So, I'm listening to Radio Havana Cuba on my shortwave radio this evening and one of their top news stories was the fact that the U.S. media is downplaying/under-reporting the protests this weekend in conjunction with the 2nd anniversary of the Iraq war.
And I couldn't help but think it's a shame that I have to go to foreign news media outlets to get really good coverage of what's going on in my own country!
As corporate media becomes Corporatist media with an agenda of promoting fascism, these alternatives become increasingly important. Getting a shortwave radio in preparation for the time when even the net access gets restricted might be prudent.
I accused you, accurately, of oversimplifying and overgeneralizing. I then pointed out that those are very common methods for freepers to spin with, simply because you are the one concerned with how the freepers view our threads.
You brought up freepers, I just referenced them, I never accused you of being one, please read more carefully before jumping to the conclusion that I am accusing you of something next time.
12. Please give me your list of politically acceptable media
sources. I for sure would not want to listen to anything that you find objectionable. I certainly wouldn't want to act in any way or say anything that the Cons might criticize, and you seem very concerned about not offending them. Your guidance will be appreciated.
25. Actually no, if you have no experience with something
Edited on Tue Mar-22-05 01:24 AM by K-W
your claims about it are of little value. You claim it is like fox news, yet you have never heard it, meaning you are pulling your argument out of your ass.
Your argument is that because everything in cuba under castro is all bad, the radio must be all bad to. Because Cuba is a one party state, thye might as well be Nazi's. Your argument is oversimplification and overgeneralization, based on assumption with no actual evidence.
If this is an important issue for you, go do some objective research.
31. So, you say I should not listen to Radio Havana
What other media outlets should I shut my mind to? I often watch Mosaic on LinkTV, a compilation of news broadcasts from the middle east. Is this also forbidden? How about DW News, the German equivalent to BBC? Is this permitted in your world of acceptable listening? How abot the BBC? I also wonder about NBC, owned by a death for profit corporation -- is it on your list of approved or disapproved infomation sources?
13. No point in fighting one bunch of Utopians by listen to another bunch!
Didn't you know? Utopians always lead to totalitarianism? In Cuba the people are so poor that they don't have an economy except for tourists. The restaurants are empty..there is no work. And a policeman on each corner.
For a while there female doctors were working as prostitutes because there was no other way to make money.
Cuba is an example of how to make your people have a really hard time. Castro should have resigned by now. Communism does not work. And even Castro makes tourists pay market rates. What do you think about that? There is no middle class in Cuba.
that has little to do with the topic of the thread...
Actually I can see how Cuban media might be an interestings listen, whether they are themselves without sin, or thier motives are pure, a critic of the US could be useful to get a critical outside perspective? Right?
29. I don't want to see us gravitate towards Cuba's way or copying them.
They are the last communist country in the world. And yes they have made some adjustments. A decade ago there were reports about prostitutes in Havana and how they were well educated.
The point is that Cuba could have been so much more. For sure get rid of the mob and make it a more equal place. But reforms just stopped after a while. Castro has not had elections for 40 years. I mean - the lost opportunity.
I just hate it when people try to paint Cuba as some sort of Utopia. It is not - and it should be doing much better. I for one was never for the American bullying and terrorism against Cuba. That - like with the Islamist fundies - may have entrenched Castro into tyranny. I think Cuba should be a happy socialist country with markets and elections. It is a rich piece of land and there should be much more to the lives there than there is.
I will try to find a link on the prostitution there.
Listening to Cuban radio for a different perspective is not supporting Cuba or it's government.
Saying that Cuba isnt as bad as our government says it is isnt calling castro a saint and saying that in some areas their society seems to be doing pretty well is not saying we should become a totalitarian state with communist ideals.
Why this fear that people will get the wrong idea, I think it is pretty safe to assume that nobody here wants to duplicate cuba here, I dont see why we even have to discuss the isssue. Reasonable people can discuss Cuba without risk of becoming crazy commies accidentally.
35. Nobody is disputing that, so why do you keep repeating it?
And why are you pretending I am avoiding it or dont realize.
I have continued to agree with you that Cuba is a one party state and that they control the radio. We completely agree.
And it is because we are all fully aware of this fact that there is no harm listening to it, and that we can even find some value in hearing the perspective of the cuban government's media. Nobody is saying that value is as an objective news source, its just a different perspective.
I say anyone can listen to their heart's content - but Fidel Castro and his regime are still the definition of scummy fascist values, and anyone listening to his propaganda radio should keep that in mind.
44. Just about any foreign news outlet is better than the media here.
You want to talk about Sovietized media. The mainstream media here is it! Probably more Sovietized than in Russia now. The only foreign media I would not believe would probably be from North Korea. Everybody else including Cuba has a less than biased world view. No. I would rather get the Cuban view than the corporate view anyday!
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