This poll says a lot about why the country is nuts. Fifty-seven

[rzemanfl]

per cent don't believe in evolution, and other horrifying statistics.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7224318/

[mcscajun]

1. You've *got* to wonder just *who* those folks at NBC called, anyhow.

we're all doomed...

:hurts:

[rzemanfl]

19. Also have to wonder about the mindset of someone willing to

discuss their religious beliefs with a stranger over the phone.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I just looked at it...

and it said 57% DO believe in evolution. Not so scary.

[NMDemDist2]

4. that was the web poll, not the folks they called n/t

[Warpy]

7. That 43% is still pretty scary

Most of them were people who lived through the social changes of the 1960s, when all of a sudden they had to treat black guys and ohmigawd women with a little respect and even work with them and the country is going to hell and they really can't take all this stuff and where is June Cleaver when the country really needs her and we gotta protect the kids from all those blacks and uppity women and the church is opening a new school next week that'll show the lil gals where their place is and no black brats can get in and ....

The mindset that reacts negatively to any change, especially necessary change, will always be with us. It's why real change often proceeds at a glacial pace, it's the only way the poor things can handle it without becoming screaming reactionaries and retreating into crackpot and cultlike old time religion.

[rzemanfl]

8. When I looked at it there were no web response numbers. n/t

[Al-CIAda]

3. Well, the web poll is the exact opposite.

...and this last q/a should be heartening-

Generally speaking, do you think of yourself as a Democrat, a Republican, an independent, or something else?  
* 12166 web responses

RESPONSES WEB  NBC POLL 
Strong Democrat 27%  23% 
Not very strong Democrat 4%  13% 
Independent/lean Democrat 21%  9% 
Strictly independent 9%  11% 
Independent/lean Republican 11%  8% 
Not very strong Republican 5%  11% 
Strong Republican 19%  19% 
Other 4%  6% 

------

Also, if you look at the answers to the questions, actually the answers heavily FAVORE the secular humanist approach to government. THE PEOPLE ARE ON OUR SIDE...so why are the Dems so CHICKENSHIT and hesitant to call out the Christo-fascists for what they are?

[rzemanfl]

5. When I looked at it the web poll had no responses. n/t

[acmavm]

6. Why? Because they're NOT WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE. They are

all fully owned and funded by corporate America.

[rzemanfl]

9. Well then, let's please all of those creationist democratic

leaning folks out there and do something faith-based and dramatic like pass a law on a Sunday that flies in the face of separation of powers. Frankly, I have nothing in common with anyone that can use fossil fuels to excess every day and is a creationist.

[rzemanfl]

13. Apparently you have to take the web poll to see the web

results.

[Auntie Bush]

24. I'd really like to KNOW how George bush* "WON" the election.

This pole almost proves he didn't "win" the election....it was stolen.

[BlueEyedSon]

10. Reason vs Faith. Faith is winning and it will surely destroy civilization.

I'm talking the wacky Muslims, the crazy xtians, the moderates that give religion its "legitimacy".... all of them.



http://www.samharris.org/index.php

[jedr]

11. what was the breakdown of the people who answered?

college students?,age 65+ ?, rural? less than 35K/yr?...I don't see it as being a good cross-section of the general population

[glaucon]

12. The difference in the Web poll and the NBC phone poll

...indicates to me that most wing-nuts are computer illiterate. It takes at least a tiny brain to operate a 'puter.

btw, you have to take the poll yourself for the Web poll %'s to show up.

[rzemanfl]

15. I refuse to take a poll that does not recognize that a person's

religion can be "none." Not "other" or "don't know/refused" but NONE.

[THUNDER HANDS]

14. I wonder how many of those 57% were from the Northeast

Because, other than the people up here, its pretty obvious that the :wtf: quotient goes up as you get further south and west.

[Al-CIAda]

16. I'm sure your assumption is correct, which makes me uncomfortable in that

when/if this mentally ill country breaks up, I will have to move to some cold ass part of North America. I don't like the cold, but will move there if they free themselves from this madness.

[THUNDER HANDS]

17. hey, free hot cocoa to any southern DUer who wants to move

:D

[salin]

18. I wonder how these numbers have changed over the past 20

years? When I was in hs it didn't seem to be controversial, nor questioned. Yet today... 57% Has this changed? Or was my little liberal oasis of a college town in a red state just an abertion back then?

[rzemanfl]

20. The USA has stopped making progress over the past

twenty to twenty-five years. No one has been to the moon, the space shuttles are old, when the Concorde stopped flying it was the first time since Columbus that the minimum time for a traveler to cross the Atlantic got longer. I fear we are in irreversible decline.

[salin]

22. *in enthusiastic/sarcastic voice* But we have had plenty of tax cuts!

*sigh*

[_TJ_]

21. Guys you really have to put a stop to this!

You seriously need to do whatever you can to educate and
enlighten people in America.

Your country won't survive if the population is allowed to
wallow in ignorance like this. No country could!

[rzemanfl]

23. Don't view this as "wallowing in ignorance" millions are being

spent (and made) to spread this stupidity.

[Wilms]

25. .