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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:17 PM
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You do realize this Terry Schiavo thing is a distraction tactic, don't you
It is an important issue, but there are a lot of other important issues that are being ignored: dying Iraqis, the anniversary of the beginning of the war, the separation of powers and checks and balances that are supposed to keep the legislature and judicial branches from interfering with one another.

Soon we're going to have a shitload of judges that will foist the right-wing agenda on us, anyway...damn. Up is down, black is white, watch this nearly brain-dead woman's struggle to live while we take away all your civil rights and decimate Iraq.

I'm just overwhelmed with sadness and a sense of powerlessness.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:17 PM
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1. yes. of course.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:19 PM
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2. yes, i agree-and sad and overwhelmed
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:45 PM
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13. and disenfranchised
which is so frustrating

How did all the stupidest people get control of our government?

Irrational fear turning into rampant nationalism

It serves the monied interests, and they back the puppets that wage their wars.

Our 'democracy' model is not one to be proud of, in fact I believe Americans have demonstrated the exact way a democracy should not operate
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:29 PM
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29. J'ein
Das Wort ist ein Vorteil auf Deutsch...

The BIG POINT:

Does the gub'mint control yo body???? It is "BASIC STUFF."
(Anyone in Oregon would do well to check out Libby Goines in Cave Junction and listen to her tune so titled).

The next BIG POINT is this dicussion is being held:

over a 15 YEAR-OLD CORPSE!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


Skull and bones???? :tinfoilhat: :evilgrin: :tinfoilhat:

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:19 PM
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3. This is a prime example of the
abuse of separation of powers and the regime forcing it's will on the rights of individuals.

I can't begin to express my outrage.:mad:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:50 PM
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14. When we lose the rule of law
there is really no going back. And that is really what is being attempted here. It goes along with the contempt that the right has shown for the role of the judiciary and the majoritarian ideas of nuts like Bork and Scalia (rights are whatever the majority says they are). This is a case that has gone through the courts for 10 years. Through appeals and reviews and every possible legal challenge. To say that the parents haven't gotten their day in court couldn't be further from the truth. But yet Tom Delay would cast aside the court ruling with relish and contempt because he sees a political opportunity. Of course he is the first to complain about "years of appeals" for death row inmates. Imagine that.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:55 PM
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15. please - 'no going back' sounds so bleak
Delay's disgraceful opportunism here must become clear to people,

One can hope
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:29 PM
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21. With the dems getting into bed with the likes of Delay?
Why hope?
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:20 PM
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4. The fact that the same crowd let that baby in Tx die
Should be demonstrative enough. They are just there to drive another wedge.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:23 PM
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5. Politicians are trying to violate the woman's civil rights
And putting her family through hell to appease religious wingnuts who see this as a battle in a war to define abortions as murder.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:24 PM
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6. Add to the list; distract from Toxic Tom's fraud & corruption problems,
and the official US policy of waging Hitler's wars of aggression on any nations, including those not deemed a threat to America but who have "interests" (stuff) that we want.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:27 PM
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7. Recommend for Greatest page
This is a distraction from everything. Say like the protest to bush's illegal war in Iraq, etc.

Two more votes folks.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:34 PM
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8. Is it?
I'm going to keep reading your spot on post... because I need to shed this nagging feeling that these idiots in congress are capable of NOTHING except getting into our panties and personal rights. SERIOUSLY I question their intelligence and abilities.
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yashuryabetcha Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:36 PM
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9. No doubt
so sad
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:37 PM
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10. Agree completely
However, the decision in this case could set precedent & truly damage our civil liberties.

I'm appalled.
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Jesus Saves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:37 PM
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11. Let's temporarily rename the site the Schiavounderground.com
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:12 PM
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17. yeah really!
i havent been at DU much today....the volume of schiavo threads is terrible. and i thought this group was better than that.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 05:44 PM
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12. And it has worked like a charm. This is beyond right-wing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:01 PM
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16. Agree, Ladyhawk
These souless b@stards will use anything, and as many things as possible.

Thanks for helping us see through the cr2p.

Beth
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:19 PM
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18. Unless we're ALL braindead we are NOT powerless
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 06:24 PM by omega minimo
Sad yes. Heartbreaking to have every American childhood fairy tale dismembered.

Outrageous that this week's Congressional investigation panel was on what? STEROIDS! What priorities?

NOT:
1. Bogus president.
2. Bogus election #2
3. Bogus war (X 2 years)

So many threads today start with general statements about what's WRONG with the country's situation today-- and then veer off into Schiavoland. Reminds me of Brady Bunch: "Marcia, Marcia Marcia! It's always about Marcia!"

We are not braindead and we are not powerless.

Question is: Why are so many Americans willing to be ruled by lies and liars? Even when they know they're lying? Even when they know how dangerous it is?

And why do the Repugs get away with sick and dangerous levels of lying, after impeaching a president because "he lied"?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:25 PM
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19. Thanks for the reminder! eom
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 06:28 PM
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20. It may be a distraction but it will backfire
This is giving the otherwise complacent public a clear picture of where the Christo-Fascist movement is taking us, and they don't like it! It's time to tie this around the necks of Delay, Frist, the Bushes, Dobson and his fellow travelers, and their ilk. Their shameless attempts to politicize this can be their undoing. They have taken the rope and are sticking their heads in the noose. Many people have either had to face this type of agonizing decision or know personally about someone else who has. Families of people without living wills have to confront this all the time. Sometimes it splits families. But the overwhelming response of outsiders is almost always in support of the decision to withdraw life support. Write your Congressmen, Senators, state legislators, newspapers and other media. By the way the MSM is not immune from from criticism in this matter. They need to be held accountable in the court of public opinion. Anyone who seeks to profit economically or politically from such a situation is despicable scum. We don't often get a high hanging curve ball like this. Show your outrage and talk it up! Appeal to common sense and common decency. This is a wedge that can leave even their fundie base divided.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:57 PM
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22. Thank you. For all the vaunted "MSM is crap"...

...talk around here, people do still seem to be so perfectly willing to allow the MSM to set their agenda for them.


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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 07:58 PM
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23. You do realize it's been highly effective, don't you? LOL! n/t
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:01 PM
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24. The lid on my Vaseline jar is FIRMLY tightened.
nevah let it outta my sight...... :toast:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:03 PM
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25. Time to check out Bush and see
what executive order is being signed
today while the masses take the bait
and fluster over a story they won't even recall
in a few days...
BHN
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:09 PM
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26. Yes, We Know It's a Distraction,
and we also know the depths of scoundrelism, pandering, cowardice that are involved in this sad situation. But aside from the important principle of medical self-determination involved, there are now some even larger points involved----things like a ROGUE GOVERNMENT, ram-rodding of arbitrary "laws", and the esclating loss of our freedoms to tyrants.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:12 PM
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27. perhaps this distraction becomes
a light shining onto the hypocritical "religious" right.

Most people express no desire to be abused the way the system is abusing Terri Schiavo's dead body and as the abuse continues the majority will perhaps see the light.
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 08:19 PM
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28. Terry Schiavo and the Big Distraction


Terry Schiavo and the Big Distraction

...Let them flog poor Ms. Schiavo, for whom my heart honestly bleeds. No one deserves to be a pawn in this kind of despicable game. But if you get geared up for that fight and let the ship sail on the filibuster issue, a lot of very bad things will happen in rapid succession.

They are yelling, "Hey, look over here! Look here! Get outraged here! Get mobilized here! Nyah nyah nyah! Here!" for a reason.

Don't take the bait.


http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/3/19/11243/4079
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:44 PM
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30. EXACTLY! "Don't look at the man behind the curtain!"
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:46 PM
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31. And the distraction is working very well at DU,
since every third thread is a pointless, repetitive rehash of the issue.
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GreenPoet64 Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:48 PM
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32. Yup. I think fundies are keeping it kicked too. n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 12:33 PM
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33. Yep. The SS "reform" distraction is fizzling to quickly. They need
a new one. This will work for a while.
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