Working and poor: GOP once again says SCREW YOU!!!

[prolesunited]

How can the poor and middle class Republicans possibly believe that their party is for them when they are sticking it to them in absolutely *EVERY* direction.

No minimum wage increase, tightening bankruptcy, no help with controlling insurance premiums or drug coverage...

We are not talking about the so-called lazy welfare bums (just to throw out their own stereotype). We are talking about people who are going to work every day, often more than one job, just to make ends meet. They are just hard-working Americans getting the shaft. They've pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and now their boots have been stolen.

This will be the first generation who will have a LOWER standard of living than their parents. There is something seriously wrong with that.

If you are working, you SHOULD be living above the freakin' poverty level. Outrageous medical costs shouldn't force you into bankruptcy.

They talk a good game about family values, but what do they do to actually support them? They complain that children are left home alone, but that's because the parents have to work two and three jobs between them just to keep a roof over their heads.

It's not that they are not working hard enough, they aren't getting PAID enough!!! :mad:

I have lots of facts and figures to add, but I'm just too angry right now. More in awhile.

[liberal N proud]

1. They haven't taken their guns away.

They all still believe that the Democrats are going to take all the guns from everyones closets.

[bryant69]

2. Family values and religious values don't mean very much

compared with corporate values. Yeah, sure, if they get the time, they will deal with them, but they never forget job one. Give the Coorperations whatever they want whenever they want it!

Bryant
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[indepat]

3. Could someone give one example wherein the GOP did something in the public

interest, rather than solely in the corporate interest? Just one example would make my day.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. *tumbleweed rolls by*

You could be waiting quite a while on this one...

[hatrack]

20. Leaves rustle, crickets chirp . . .

And in the distance we hear the plaintive wail of Kato the Akita.

Oh, sorry, wrong MSM pimp-job!

[HughBeaumont]

7. "Public" "interest" . . . . two words that go together like

"candy" and "fishheads" in the Repig vocab.

[wildflower]

14. Well...I think some of them believe that the war on crime & drugs

is in the public interest. Whether these measures have actually worked, well, that's another matter.

And I think many traditional conservatives believe in reducing taxes for all, believing it fair to everyone and thus in the public interest.

I guess it depends on who the person is. I see a big difference between traditional conservatives and neoconservatives. And a difference between intent and result.

So if you ask if there are any neoconservatives who intend to serve the public rather than the corporations, that's tough to answer.

I guess there are some who feel serving the corporations *is* serving the public interest (trickle-down theory)...but do they really believe that? I don't know.

Sorry, I guess I couldn't think of an example. :)

-wildflower

[indepat]

15. The old Charlie Wilson's "What's good for General Motors is good for

America" bit.

[HughBeaumont]

4. Faigs cain't marrah.

That's all that matters.

It amazes me that the rural people of this nation think they're actually rebelling by chosing a party that overwhelmingly favors the rich and compensating for it with this ridiculous reason that has absolutely NOTHING to do with running a country.

Why not make THIS a bumper sticker -

MORALS/VALUES '04
When you have absolutely NOTHING else to run on

[elehhhhna]

6. it gets worse--Wealthy filers can set up offshore "asset protection

trusts" that are untouchable.(As long a they're set-up pre-bankruptcy).

WTF?

[Mandate My Ass]

9. Yes but they're rich and therefore blessed

which of course means they should remain fabulously wealthy by being afforded the opportunity to cancel inconvenient debt even while hard-working families go without food, clothing and shelter.

[prolesunited]

10. HUH?!?!?

Do you have a link or more explanation on that?

Why are people not storming the castle yet?

[Mandate My Ass]

12. IIRC, they don't even have to be off-shore now

The loophole involves the use of so-called asset protection trusts. For years, wealthy people looking to keep their money out of the reach of domestic creditors have set up these trusts offshore. But since 1997, lawmakers in five states - Alaska, Delaware, Nevada, Rhode Island and Utah - have passed legislation exempting assets held domestically in such trusts from the federal bankruptcy code. People who want to establish trusts do not have to reside the five states; they need only set their trust up through an institution in one of them.

"If the bankruptcy legislation currently being rushed through the Senate gets enacted, debtors won't need to buy houses in Florida or Texas to keep their millions," said Elena Marty-Nelson, a law professor at Nova Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., referring to generous homestead exemptions in those states. "The millionaire's loophole that is the result of these trusts needs to be closed."

This is just a way for rich folks to be able to slip through the noose on bankruptcy, and, of course, the double irony here is that the proponents of this bill keep pressing it as designed to eliminate abuse," said Elizabeth Warren, a law professor at Harvard Law School. "Yet when provisions that permit real abuse by rich people are pointed out, the bill's proponents look the other way."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/02/business/02bankrupt.html?hp&ex=1109826000&en=5cbe55820f987b1e&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[MountainLaurel]

18. Storming the castle?

To borrow a phrase from Napolean:

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

Honestly, a large portion of the poor believe that they deserve their fate in life (we're all eeeevil sinners, you know), or can't even imagine that things could be different because they've never really been exposed to anything else.

[Ganja Ninja]

8. It's unbelievable just how stupid the poor and middle class ...

GOP voter is. I hate to see what's happening for my sake and for us liberals. As far as the GOP faithful goes I really don't give a flying fuck about their future misfortune. They are screwing themselves and I don't care anymore.

[prolesunited]

11. The only problem is that we're all in this together

The wealthy elite are controlling the drama that's unfolding around us. They set up artificial conflicts, which do have some genuine basis but fueled to keep us divided:
Red vs. Blue, race and affirmative action, religion, feminism, immigration...

Think of all the things that are used to divide us, to keep us distracted from the real distinction, what really matters — wealth and class.

If we would stop fighting amongst ourselves long enough, we (those on the bottom 90%) would realize that we're all getting screwed and worse yet for the plutocracy, decide to do something about it.

[adigal]

13. My young friend's mother works for Home depot

and they constantly change insurance companies. Now they have one that is not accepted anywhere locally. She has some kind of eye trouble, and has to go to an opthamologist, and there are none within 100 miles who take the plan that the mother pays $46 per week for. Also, this plan does NOT cover prescription drugs.

What the hell kind of a country are we when we don't give a damn about those in our midst who are working hard and struggling?

[prolesunited]

16. Hey as long as you got yours

and I got mine, who cares about her? It's the Republican way. :puke:

[shain from kane]

17. A working man voting Republican is like...

a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

[catmandu57]

19. All of this shit is going to come home

to roost. It may take a little while, but eventually even the most thickheaded are going to come to the conclusion that they're being fucked.
Fucked hard and deep without even spitting first, I'm seriously looking for some sort of national emergency later this summer that will give them the excuse to go after the guns.
People who pull this type of shit surely don't want an armed populace around, look what's happening all over Iraq.
Also all the foot soldiers are in the same boat as the working poor, whose side do you suppose they'll take.
America is dead.