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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:43 PM
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Sign of the Apocolypse... Baker concerned with global warming.
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Former U.S. Secretary of State James Baker, a close ally of the Bush family, broke ranks with the Bush administration on Thursday and called for the United States to get serious about global warming.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7088152

Is it time to watch out for raptured automobiles going wildly off the freeways?
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:46 PM
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1. Wow!!
And he's a "hunter and fisherman" too!!
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:50 PM
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2. The word is a new hole has opened over Britain and northern
Europe in the Ozone layer. If that is the truth then Poodle Blair will have a damn hard time continuing to suck up to the shrub.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:58 PM
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3. He must have just figured out a way to make money off of it
The Repuke way.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:00 PM
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4. no shit ...
it's his style, the rat-bastard.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:06 PM
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5. This is a joke, right?
I can see it's not a fake MSNBC site.
This THE James Baker, right? The one that got Shrub all the FLA votes in 2000, yes?
The 'Baker Botts' Baker? Official lawyers for the Saudi Government in 9/11 lawsuits? Texas OILMEN lawyers?

If he's concerned with global warming, he's closing the gate after the cows have left. He knew exactly what Shrub & his pals were after.

He has personally ensured global warming will continue.

Period.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:09 PM
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6. No joke.
I heard about his a couple days ago.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:15 PM
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7. James Baker???
There MUST be a profit motive behind this. The "Baker" lizard must be buying up eco-technology stocks or something.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:16 PM
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8. But how do you go from being a Bush Family consigliere
to being something else altogether?

Bizarre.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:19 PM
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10. Look for a sudden push for hydrogen fuel, the sort made by oil companies
as opposed to really green fuel.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:16 PM
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14. bingo
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 11:26 PM by bigtree
of course, hydrogen doesn't have to come from nuclear substances. Right now, the undeveloped technology relies on a new crop of 'blended' nuclear fuels that would come from a new generation crop of plants that would be dual use, facilitating the production of the new nuclear bombs that are contemplated by this administration. It just so happens that the same corporations that feed off of the trough of the 60% of our tax dollars that goes to 'defense', Bechtel, Lockheed, Raytheon, General Dynamics, will be the main beneficiaries of the appropriated largess, aided by the nest of former executives from these same companies who have nested in this Bush administration and in the republican Congress.

We now get 20% of our nation's energy from nuclear. That 20% can be easily made up from non-nuclear sources of renewables. Hydrogen can come from water and biomass . . . if we committ the same amount of money to these alternative sources that we so blithely dish out to the military industry sources who are in control of the nuclear meddling.

Baker's with Carlyle:

"It wasn't until 1989, when the company brought in Mr. Carlucci, fresh off his two-year stint as U.S. secretary of defense, that Carlyle got serious in government. In 1991 the company made a name for itself by facilitating a $590 million purchase of Citicorp stock for Prince Alwaleed bin Talal. Shortly thereafter, Carlyle snatched up defense contractors Harsco, BDM International, and LTV, turning the companies around and selling them to the likes of TRW, Boeing, and Lockheed Martin."

http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=6793&hed=Carlyle's+Way


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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:17 PM
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9. Hasn't he made a comment like this in the past?
Or was that someone else in Poppy's old administration who did that?
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:19 PM
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11. it's like these fuckers have very brief periods of lucidity and ...
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 10:20 PM by Pepperbelly
and decency on occasion ... like in The Stupids when Stanley got shocked by the automobile starter.

Kinda creepy in a way.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:20 PM
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12. What's the hook?
There's a hook.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:44 PM
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13. Gotta be a hook
No fuckin WAY there's no hook.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:49 PM
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16. hook? building of nuclear power plants in the US and baker will profit
what else?

the "elders of america" will not accept publicly the reality of global warming until they are positioned to take monetary advantage of the actions necessary to counter-act it.

all systems will be "go" for the return of nuclear power growth in the US with the US government moving to curtail greenhouse emissions. only nuclear power generation will be clean enough and the folks like baker have spent the last several years getting ready for it.

follow the money
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:26 PM
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15. Bush doesn't care what he says, period, end of story
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