Recruit’s death highlights brutality of Marine training

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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/feb2005/mari-f25.shtml


We are killing are own before they even get to Iraq.
This is just plain horrible. shame, shame on those recruiters.

[B Calm]

1. They stood there and watched him drown! MURDER

What happened to the Marine motto?

[Lisabtrucking]

2. This is soo unbelievable. I know there is a lot of military families who

are worried about our own government killing their children.

Madness, plain Madness.

[alwynsw]

3. I see your point, but

Having been through such training, I can guarantee you that the rougher the training - rougher with purpose as opposed to rougher for the sake of being roughr - the better the likelyhood of survival in a combat zone.

There's another good reason for what we percieve as psychological and physical abuse in training. If a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine can't take the training in that form, they certainly won't be able to handle combat, which is the primary purpose of any military establishment.

Better to weed out those who can't take it.

Before you think me heartless, I feel sincere sadness for any loss of life, unless it's me killing one who is intent upon killing me or mine. Then I'm just pissed.

[Lisabtrucking]

4. They had a soldier telling the people in command that that is what is

going to happen. He was on CNN earlier. So they were warned they were pushing the limit on some of these recruits. There is no reason this boy should of died in training. I see this as murder, and it also makes me angry.

[HockeyMom]

5. Maybe they shouldn't even

BE in boot camp at all? We know kid who is there now at the same camp. The one who the Army wouldn't take cause he was UNDERWEIGHT, but he made the MARINES? Why? I hope we aren't going to see MORE of this (including our friend) cause they are so desperate for recruits.

[Disturbed]

7. psychological and physical abuse in training

Having gone through U.S. Army boot camp I know what it is about. This case seems to be one of criminal negligence. Also, "instructors" are not allowed to strike recruits. The instructor in this video certainly did so. I felt sorry for this young man. He appeared to be traumatized. I still don't understand how they let him drown.

[Lisabtrucking]

8. I watched that tape and I know I will dream about this, shit like this

gets to me specially when it's our government.

[punpirate]

6. Helluva way...

... to "weed out those who can't take it."

DIs are charged, by law and regulation, with the protection of the recruits under their command, not to facilitate or ignore or engage in the abuse of recruits.

[Lisabtrucking]

9. I'm a mother of a 16 year old, and I'll tell ya, I would be a pretty crazy

mother if that happen to my child. You trust your government to protect your son who is willing to lay his life down for it, and they turn around and kill him. Crazy wouldn't be the word.

[Shakespeare]

10. He was hazed.

There is more to this story that has not come out yet (I can't say more, because a friend of mine is currently working with the recruit's family to get the story out). It's only going to get uglier.

[Lisabtrucking]

11. Well you let that family know I am totally behind them, and I feel the

loss of their son also.

[Shakespeare]

12. I will, thanks.

It's an ugly, ugly story.