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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:54 AM
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"Supreme Court: Deep questions about hostility towards religion"
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One of the attorneys whose group filed a brief in the Ten Commandments cases heard on Wednesday before the U.S. Supreme Court says he does not believe the high court will rule that it is unconstitutional for a government body to display God's laws in public....

Rev. Rob Schenck, president of National Clergy Council, says he noticed the justices' reluctance. "For those of us who support the public display of the Ten Commandments, our prayers are being answered," he told reporters, "and a majority of the justices seem to be changing their minds and their hearts on this critical issue."

Schenck said it was "very apparent that several members of the court have deep and abiding questions about the growing hostility towards religion and the acknowledgment of religion in our national public life." Justices Anthony Kennedy and Stephen Breyer, he said, seemed very "bothered" by the fact that there is a "growing antipathy towards religious speech towards religious symbolism."

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/3/32005a.asp

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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:56 AM
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1. Maybe it's the growing hostility of religion against people that don't
agree with it. Maybe it's all those hate crimes done in the name of God. Maybe it's all those dead and tortured citizens over the centuries - and now years - killed and tortured in the name of religion.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:57 AM
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2. Sing it, sister. nt
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:58 AM
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3. I have hostility towards hypocrites
regardless of their religious persuasion.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:01 PM
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15. There the lairs go again if you disagree your hostile
We need to start using that game plan on them.
"Changes to social security means you want old people to die of starvation." "Doing nothing with health care means you only want rich people to be able to use hospitals." "Cuts to education means you want to go back to having a class of people to use as slaves again." And so on, and so on, and so on.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:02 PM
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4. bullshit.
there is no growing hostility. The problem is the fundis are trying to shove thier religion down our collective throats.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:03 PM
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6. What a great sigline quote
And you are right, playing the victim card, we are so persecuted etc.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:03 PM
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5. If hostility is growing, keep it out of our FACES.
I still think "GOD IS LOVE" in some public places would scare the bejabbers out of these Christianoids.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:05 PM
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7. Let's parse that phrase, shall we?
"members of the court have deep and abiding questions about the growing hostility towards religion"

The judges (I don't call them 'justices' anymore, since the 2000 coup), have 'deep' and longlasting 'questions' about americans gettin more and more pissed at fundies. I think that's a fair translation.

Okay, you got questions? I got fucking answers.

1) Fundies are out to regulate women's lives by taking away their choice.

2) Fundies see the middle east as a way to get fucking raptured to heaven after armageddon, so they want u.s. troops over there blowing up brown people so they can get their religious rocks off.

3) Fundies love the death penalty

4) Fundies want to stop gay relationships, or kill the gays themselves.

5) Fundies have more in common with Osama and the Taliban than they do with the american culture.

6) Fundies (along with the SCOTUS five) selected George Fucking Bush as president in a coup d'etat.

7) Fundies are tryint to destroy scientific education in the schools and scientific research so that their brains don't get vaporized when science conflicts with their voodoo interpretation of the bible.

8) Fundies are nutjob fuckwads who are trying to destroy this country and re-make into some kind of bible death camp until the 'rapture'

Okay, dingbats, does that give you half a fucking clue as to why this might be happening?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:08 PM
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10. If only I could recommend your post
Excellent fucking answers.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:31 PM
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12. I wish I could put your post on a tee shirt
I concur, I concur, I con-cur!!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:24 PM
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17. Feel free
I live in the damn bible belt and I personally cannot fucking wait for their 'rapture' so these demented, mouth-breathing dimwits vaporize themselves.
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:05 PM
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8. Response to them imposing their views on public policy
I'd have no problem with religion if they weren't trying to impose their views on others.

If they stop using their religious views to oppose abortion rights, stem cell research, marriage rights for gays, and teaching of evolution, I'd be willing to let them display whatever religious material they want.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:06 PM
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9. When you use your religion as a political tool
People who don't share those religious views tend to be bothered by it. Why is it that we are all supposed to be of one mind (theirs) when comes to religion?
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:27 PM
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11. Perhaps the SCOTUS should examine this revolt against religion.
After all, if there really is a growing hostility, it just may be that people are sick and tired of the fundies dictating how the people will live, think, die, and have their government hi-jacked in the name of religion.

Maybe the SCOTUS should reign in the fundies' control over our government, before they find themselves in the middle of a widespread revolt against a government controlled by fundies.

Note * This post in no way endorses, calls for, or implies to any person to engage in any unlawful activity.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:37 PM
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13. These People Aren't Talking About Hostility Toward Religion
They are talking about hostility toward Christianity.

Specifically, they are talking about hostility toward their warped view of their own specific segment of Christianity.

They aren't worried about hostility toward Islam, because they help to perpetuate it. They aren't worried about hostility toward Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Judaism, because they are on the front lines of THAT battle. They aren't worried about hostility toward those who have no religion. They want to propagate hostility toward all who do not believe exactly as they do, and they want the government to assist them to that end.

The more they chip away at the wall between church and state so that the church can interfere with the state, the more easy it will become for the state to interfere with the church.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 12:50 PM
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14. It's human nature to push back against people who tell you what to do.
The operative word is of course TELL. If the religious right wasn't constantly in everyone's face trying to force their opinions, I doubt there'd be a problem.

I have no problem with what or how particular beliefs are promoted within each congregation, but I have my own beliefs, and I want the opportunity to follow those with the same freedom you follow yours.

How difficult is that for 9 intelligent judges to understand?

I went to 12 years of Catholic school, and I remember being told that we as little Catholic children weren't allowed to go the the public school because they recited the WRONG version of the "Our Father Prayer". I didn't understand then, or now, what the big problem was with just adding 15 words to the end of their version, but that's the way it used to be. (Yes I'm old and it was a long time ago.)

I also remember we were told how terrific it was when "under God" was added to the pledge. "The leader of our country is finally seeing things OUR WAY."

Life was simpler then though, because we were also told that the church must stay out of politics! What in the world has happened????
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:05 PM
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16. Hostility towards religious interference in government.
As far as I can discern, most people are free to practice whatever religion they choose to. The whole issue is a scam.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:39 PM
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18. ...In the Time machine...
Rev. Rob Schenck "We today are so hopeful that the supreme court today will answer our prayers and allow all religions and not just scientology the freedom to worship in this country. Now excuse me I must replace my tin foil hat to keep the aliens thoughts out"
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