As I read the article below re this BTK guy, I thought of all the

[lonestarnot]

Arrest in Killings Stuns Church
Mon Feb 28, 7:55 AM ET Top Stories - Los Angeles Times
By P.J. Huffstutter Times Staff Writer

WICHITA, Kan. — The faithful gathered at Christ Lutheran Church early Sunday morning, bewildered and overpowered by a sense of betrayal.
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Just a week ago, Dennis Rader, president of the 400-member congregation, had been a welcome and familiar face in their midst. He had recently dropped off spaghetti sauce and a salad for a church dinner, the pastor said.
On Friday, Rader, 59, was arrested and accused of being the long-sought BTK killer who tortured and killed 10 people in the Wichita area from 1974 to 1991.
"I don't know what to feel other than pain, agony," Pastor Michael Clark said after delivering his sermon Sunday morning. "They didn't teach me how to deal with anything like this at the seminary." ...
For many of Rader's friends at church, the headlines have become numbing. They repeat the same thought — the news cannot be true.
"I keep hearing the same thing, over and over: Dennis is BTK," said Paul Carlstedt, a church member who has known Rader since 1975. "But the man I know is not a monster. He just can't be."
As congregants walked into the two-story brick church Sunday, bundled in warm coats to ward off the chill of an overcast day, reporters and television crews blocked their path, peppering them with questions about Rader and his family. ...
"I needed to be here," said Carol Jones, a longtime resident of Wichita, who was seated in the pews. "I needed some explanation of why this is happening. I needed some help understanding how we all could have missed this, and how he could have possibly done something like this."
"We grieve with you," Mansholt said. "Words fail us at times like this…. The very foundation of our faith is shaken."

"The events that have unfolded over the past 48 hours have the power to destroy, to devastate us," Clark told the congregation. "These events have the power and energy to be a wedge that drives us apart, or they can be a force that will hold us together in these trying times. 'It makes no sense!' 'What has just happened?'

MY INPUT.....same type of people being "fooled" by bushitler

Describing this as a "soul-shattering experience," Clark said the Rader family was "trying to come to grips with this. Paula was in a state of disbelief. Her voice indicated she was suffering."
At least one member of the congregation said members had begun to feel that somehow they overlooked a tip or a hint of the man police say was their friend.
"Were we used? Did he use the church and all of his friends as a cover?" said Kevin Smith, 52. "Were we all fooled? Could we have done something?"


Hell yeah they were used and still being used by bushitler!! Only on a more massive scale!

[benburch]

1. Symptomatic of American "Christianity"

Many of its leaders are NOT what they seem at all.

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[DearAbby]

3. What I find strange about the BTK murders....

Was the Family that was murdered first...a man (father) and Mother and the sister hanging in the basement...the man and the child were the ones, the other murders were of women, indiscriminate. No other male victims, no other victims were children. So as a somewhat reader of crimes such as these, the first victims are usually the target, and the others are a lead away from the real reason.

Why did this man kill that family?

[lonestarnot]

5. Why are these people fooled is the real question????

[lonestarnot]

4. Sorry mod...I'll correct my ways, got in a hurry.

[applegrove]

6. Those poor souls. What a shock to the system to learn you cannot

trust your eyes or any of your sense. And yes - these psychopaths spend their lives 'passing' as human beings. My heart goes out to the people around him - as it does to the people who were victims of his henious crimes.

[lonestarnot]

7. I know the article was about him, the BTK, but I'm talking about the

population at large and how they are decieved. The similarity gives me the creeps!

[applegrove]

8. Yes it is terrifying when you realize there are these sociopaths walking

around who look at you or me, or a group of Americans and sees us for all our hopes and fears (called reality testing - what is that person's system of beliefs, what are their feelings on things). And we would like to think that it is only the religious who fall for such liars. But non-religious people fall for it too. Look at the silence of the Democrats in 2002/2003 as the switch & bait took place. Liberals fall for it, neocons fall for it, journalists too. And people get grievously hurt by the games the sociopathic liars play and the wedge issue & attacks they use .. all so they can get power. No barriers to their behaviour whatsoever.

Not much different than BTK.