There are no hate groups listed in Vermont and Hawaii

[VermontDem2004]

http://www.tolerance.org/maps/hate/state.jsp?state_id=47

http://www.tolerance.org/maps/hate/state.jsp?state_id=12

all from this link
http://www.tolerance.org/maps/hate/index.html

This not posted to make a point, it is just something I found interesting.

[tom_paine]

1. Only an oversight I'm sure -- Freepers will work to fix that

n/t

[davidinalameda]

2. I found too many in West Virginia

so sad, including one not too far from my hometown

[VermontDem2004]

3. It's sad

I found two Neo-Nazi groups, 1 anti-semtic group, and one black supremist organization not to far from my hometime of Mesa.

[Don_G]

5. Far Too Many In Kentucky Too

Very sad!

[Atlant]

4. Gee, I'm pretty sure there's an Anti-Holstein group in Grand Isle.

Bunch'a Hereford-loving weirdos, if you ask me.

Atlant

[bearfartinthewoods]

6. i'm not surprised

both, in their own ways are slices of heaven. how could hate prosper when surrounded by so much beauty.

besides...the haters stay away from Vermont because of all the 'queers'...it might rub off. and all the good looking 'wimmen' are lezzies doncha know.

</sarcasm>

[BurtWorm]

7. Did they overlook the Hawaiian group Vermont Sux?

[Atlant]

8. More seriously...

With all the "Take Back Vermont!" horseshit that's been going
on (re: Civil Unions), I'm pretty sure that if you looked hard
enough, you could find an anti-gay hate group or two.

But I'm almost willing to believe that you couldn't find a
racial hate group in Vermont no matter how hard you looked.
Oh, maybe two losers down at the bar, but not much more.

Of course, it may not be as rosy as I'm making it out to
be. The lack of obvious racism could be due to VT being the
whitest state in the Union, and I'm not referring to the
snow on Jay Peak. Who would they have to be racist against?
The Quebecois?

Atlant

[VermontDem2004]

9. New Hampshire is not far behind Vermont

New Hampshire has a 96% White population while Vermont has a 96.8% white population.

[KaraokeKarlton]

41. Take Back Vermont turned into a hate group for awhile

But the rest of the state got mighty pissed off and essentially shouted them down. I don't miss that whole fiasco. We do have our share of both right and left wing radicals, but they're hold up in their bunkers and communes most of the time. ;)

[T Roosevelt]

10. Ahhh, welcome to Florida

[VermontDem2004]

11. My home state

Edit: I remember Joe Scarborough saying that Northwest Florida is one of the most conservative areas in this country, now I know why.

[Clete]

12. Depends on a state's tolerance for this type of association.

I wonder what these states are doing to discourage hate groups as contrary to others? A misconception that a lot of people have is that the people in states like Washington, Montana and Idaho are breeding grounds for these type of militias. The truth is the native American and native pioneer stock of these states don't condone these groups. Most of the members of these groups had the unwelcome mat thrown out for them in their homes states so they found a sanctuary in states who value minding their own business and have a live and let live attitude. I know many towns now are making a concerted effort to get these militias to move on.

[Mari333]

13. Greetings from Michigan

why are they ignoring the Upper Peninsula?? I KNOW Ted Nugent hangs out up there.
edit to add: see that little cross/crown? I live right around there...
ack

[VermontDem2004]

16. Isn't that around the Benton Harbour area?

[htuttle]

14. They call the Nation of Islam a 'Black Separatist' hate group?

I think that brush is a bit wide.

When was the last time the NOI dragged some guy around tied to the back of a truck?

[VermontDem2004]

15. There are nation of Islam black separatist hate groups

very little of them are very violent, not all of Nation of Islam are for black seperation but there are such groups.

[Character Assassin]

35. You don't have to be violent to chock full 'o hate, as the NOI clearly is.

And loonie, for that matter.

[Cheswick2.0]

39. I have a friend who is a member of NOI

she is neither hateful or loonie. She wears the head covering, dresses modestly and does not shake hands with or touch in anyway men she is not related to.

She is also a liberal democrat, independent, hard workin and a great mother.

[TheYellowDog]

36. They are a hate group

And if you don't think Farrakhan hates then you are blind. I think one tendency on here is to excuse black hate groups, and that's not right.

[JohnKleeb]

17. See guys I am behind enemy lines

Isnt that hell and well there is no group in my town there are some very near. A wide diversity of bigots here too.

[Sean Reynolds]

18. Two in Utah

Both the Nazis.

[Clete]

20. I'm not surprised.

They must have trickled down from Idaho. Idaho is making them unwelcome these days.

[TheYellowDog]

19. Okay

There's no one to hate in Vermont, it's 98% white.

[VermontDem2004]

22. 96.8% white

their could be a gay hate group or an anti-semitic group, but like I posted, it wasn't to make a point, just something I found interesting.

[TheYellowDog]

21. Hrm

Here is NY:



I'm Upstate NY, and the upstate swastika in central new york is right near me. It's in Syracuse, where i am :(. I looked at the map, and I didn't want to believe it, but the site said so:

Syracuse National Socialist Movement Neo-Nazi


I can't believe these fuckers are in Syracuse, and I can't believe there are KKKers on Long Island. This shit sucks.

[VermontDem2004]

25. I 100% agree

it makes no sense to organize a group sponsored by a hate, or to hate anyone.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

23. Washington

I'm shocked that there is hardly anything east of the Cascades. Maybe it's too dangerous over there to check out. :shrug:

[TheYellowDog]

24. by the way,

why is the Jewish Defense League listed as a hate group? :shrug:

[VermontDem2004]

28. I am not sure

here is their official website http://www.jdl.org/

Some more information

About the Jewish Defense League:

The Jewish Defense League, also known as JDL, was established in 1968 for the declared purpose of protecting Jews by whatever means necessary in the face of what was seen by the group’s principals as their dire peril. The founder, national chairman and leader of the JDL was a then-38-year-old ordained rabbi from Brooklyn, New York, Meir Kahane, who, in 1990, was assassinated in New York by an Arab extremist.

In Rabbi Kahane’s gross distortion of the position of Jews in America, American Jews were living in a fiercely hostile society, facing much the same dangers as the Jews in Nazi Germany or those in Israel surrounded by 100-million Arab enemies. Rabbi Kahane believed that the major Jewish organizations in the United States had failed to protect America’s Jews from anti-Semitism, which he saw as “exploding” all over the country. "If I have succeeded in instilling fear in you," Rabbi Kahane said in the closing statement of his standard speech, "I consider this evening a success."

In fact, Kahane consistently preached a radical form of Jewish nationalism which reflected racism, violence and political extremism.

In their own words

Irv Rubin -- Chairman of the Jewish Defense League

After the attack on the Jewish community center in Los Angeles:
"Those kids at that community center were sitting ducks. We have to realize as Jews that this is going to happen again and again until we learn to defend ourselves, and the only way to defend yourself is to fire back."
The Sacramento Bee, August 14, 1999
On training camps in the Catskills:
"We teach young people to have a sane fist attached to a sane head, not to advocate this nebbish posture people seem to think is so popular."

"A lot of energy, and ideology classes will create an authentic Jew. A Jew who will know how to act when all Jews are in trouble."
The Times Herald-Record, June, 28, 1998

On Jewish extremists in the United States:
"Violence in self-defense is absolutely justifiable."
Los Angeles Times, November 9, 1995




http://www.adl.org/extremism/jdl_chron.asp

[TheYellowDog]

32. I don't think JDL is a

hate group. Jews kind of need them. The JDL stands up to neo nazis and kkk members in places like Skokie.

[VermontDem2004]

34. Well JDL is considered a terrorist organization by the CIA and FBI

Look at this

The Jewish Defense League (JDL) is a tiny Jewish "self-defense" movement, considered a terrorist organization by the CIA and FBI. It was founded in 1968 by Meir Kahane, and began as a vigilante group with the goal of protecting Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods in New York City from attack by various gangs, and to protest local instances of violence. The JDL soon broadened its concerns to the global situation of the Jewish community, and sought to defend Jews from perceived threats through the use of violence.

The JDL is widely viewed as extremist and no mainstream Jewish organization has ties to it. There are, however, several right-wing movements that have links to and support the JDL, not least within the settler community in the occupied Palestinian territories in the West Bank (eg. the Kach movement). Newspaper reports indicate that membership in the JDL appears to have been limited to a few hundred people by the year 2000, with a much smaller number actually being active in the organization.


JDL terrorist activity
JDL members have been accused by the FBI and CIA of 37-50 terrorist attacks, including:

Bombing of the San Francisco branch of Melli, an Iranian bank, in 1981.
Bombing the Iraqi UN mission in 1982.
Bombing the offices of Sol Hurok, who organized performances of Soviet ballet in the United States (resulting in one death).
Bombing the Los Angeles offices of the Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in 1985 (killing its director, Alex Odeh).
Killing Tsherim Soobzokov (a Waffen-SS veteran) in a bomb attack in 1985.
In these cases an anonymous caller would claim JDL responsibility for the bombing, which was then denied by the JDL leadership, although often they would say that, although they had nothing to do with it themselves, they were happy the attacks had occurred: for example JDL chairman Irv Rubin said Odeh "got what he deserved", although they insist the attack was done by Arabs, not by them. (Sources: <1>, <2>)

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League

[elfwitch]

26. Texas Leading the pack

Somehow I am not in the least bit shocked that my home state is one of the highest concentrations. I am just waiting for the state of Texas to start deporting liberals to other states.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

27. Look At Mass!

Neo-Nazi Heaven!

[SavageWombat]

29. Very few in Kansas...

... but as I live in Topeka, I have to see that @#$% Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Fruitcakes on an almost daily basis.

[JohnKleeb]

31. how that must suck

Phelps ewww. You poor thing you.

[uptohere]

30. no surprize

Proper gun laws allow Vermonters to dissuade them and the travel business sees to making Hawaii the kind of place you come to to relax and spend money. I guess the B&B guys do much the same thing people in VT.

[VermontDem2004]

33. Vermont has 23 human rights groups

There are only 16 in my home state

[opihimoimoi]

37. Hawaii has had incidents involving Hate groups over the past 20 years

They are here. not in great numbers but here

[RowWellandLive]

38. How reliable is this?

The wealthy predominantly Jewish NJ suburb where I am from is sited as being the home of two Neo-Nazi organizations. They must have a very small number of members as I never even knew they exsisted there. They are certainly not making any sort of a splash and would not be tolerated if people knew they had taken up residence.

I wonder what qualifies a group to be on this list. Probably just a handful of wackos. This seems like scare propoganda.

[DoNotRefill]

40. I'm curious how they classify them...

Does every skinhead that isn't SHARPie affiliated qualify as a racist skinhead?