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juslikagrzly Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:23 PM
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Church Fighting Abuse Lawsuit (Tulsa) - blaming the kids!!
Disgusting news from the heart of jesusland----

In court documents, Grace Fellowship inquires about the sexual orientation of a former student, a fifth-grader at the time.

After losing a jury verdict of nearly $1 million last year, Grace Fellowship Church is aggressively challenging a new claim of sexual abuse at its private school.

Court documents reveal that the church is asking a molestation victim if he had "homosexual tendencies" while enrolled as a fifth-grader at Grace Fellowship Christian School.

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Grace Pastor Bob Yandian and his lawyer are requesting that the victim "admit that you touched Aaron Thompson in a sexual manner before he first touched you in a sexual manner," the documents state.


Full story here (paid subscription required :( ) Church Fighting Abuse Lawsuit


The perpetrator was sentenced to 25 years in prison on 18 felony counts after admitting to lewd molestation of multiple victims while working as a coach and physical education teacher at the church sponsored school.

Get a clue you idiots---the victims were kids! End of story. You molest a kid, or knowingly allow a child molester to victimize kids, YOU are at fault. NOT THE KIDS!!!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:25 PM
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1. Oh, the HYPOCRISY
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 01:26 PM by kgfnally
If he was a child, in fifth grade at the time, where oh WHERE the bloody fuck are they getting the idea that homosexuality is a choice???

Someone should point this out to them in their court proceeding. See how they respond.
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juslikagrzly Donating Member (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:36 PM
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3. I suppose they only really care
when "choice" vs "genes" suits their purpose.

Just makes my blood boil. It doesn't matter one whit if the kid were straight, gay, bi, polka-dotted, a rotten brat, etc. etc. HE WAS A KID and an adult in a power position molested him. END OF STORY. And right-wing christians wonder why some people question their integrity???

Interestingly, the church has already settled with some of the other KID victims for allowing this pervert to work at their church even though they knew he had been molesting them. He signed a "do not fondle" agreement with the church months before he was arrested. I kid you not, a "do not fondle" agreement :evilfrown:
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:38 PM
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4. They're hypocritical not to accept the law and common understanding

that it's a crime for an adult to have sexual contact with a minor. Period. It doesn't matter whether the child's orientation is heterosexual or homosexual.

You seem to be saying that a fifth grader can't have a sexual orientation, though, which I think is incorrect. I think children do have sexual orientations and may behave in a "seductive" manner, even understanding what they're trying to do, BUT that never excuses an adult having sexual contact with a child of any age.

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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 02:20 PM
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7. OK, that's just plain sick...
I'm sorry, blaming the victim in Child abuse cases is inexcusable, "Seductive" my ASS!!!!!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:30 PM
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2. You're expecting adult men to be able to control themselves?
Well, good for you. This goes along the fundie line of christianity and islam that men can't so everyone else has to hide themselves and if a man has sex or uses sex as violence against you, you must've asked for it. I hate this shit.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:57 PM
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6. COVER ME mit Stoffe
Stoffe is my friend. Can't make out my rear end or my BOOBS...

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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:45 PM
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5. "For everyone that curseth his father or his mother..."
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 01:45 PM by porphyrian
"...shall be surely put to death!" - Leveticus 20 : 9

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son...bring him unto the elders of his city...And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die; so shalt thou put evil away from among you!" - Deutoronomy 20 : 18 : 21
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