I think calling Coulter a Man is an excellent tactic.

[trumad]

We cannot allow her to be the only one with outrageous claims.

Ann the Man is what I will call her from now on.

[tuvor]

1. She's a glorified troll.

She's to political analysis what Hulk Hogan is to professional sports.

Don't feed the troll!

[theorist]

42. I agree.

And if Ann Coulter is invited to give a lecture by the College Neocons, be sure to take out an ad in the student newspaper inviting everyone to visit local coffee shops for some real political discussion.

[Stop_the_War]

2. I agree.

[maddiejoan]

3. repulsive

and transphobic. Therre is much to dismiss Coulter with, to use that she is possibly a transsexual as an insult is a repulsive idea.

Are ALL transsexuals worthy of such scorn for you then?

THIS transsexual wishes people like you would just go away. Thanks a lot.

[readmoreoften]

Standing up for ya, maddie

Yeah, suggesting that Ann is a transwoman and that there is something wrong with that is really insulting to transpeople and intersexed folks people and a lot of gay people too.

Can't we find something to bash her for that without demonizing transfolk. Like maybe the fact that Ann C.'s a psychotic lying smacked ass? Or just call her an ugly bitch.

[hfojvt]

35. so what, everyone has to be beautiful now?

Isn't that alot easier for people who are wealthy and who do not have to work in coal mines, or emptying trash?

I disagree with the politics of personal attack, especially that based on physical characteristics. Can we attack the lie more than we attack the liar? You know, even calling her psychotic is likely to offend people who cannot help being mentally ill.

[readmoreoften]

39. I hear what you're saying

I agree about ad hominem attacks. "Ugly" to me has more to do with a quality of person though, than a proximity to ideals of standard beauty. Ann Coulter's an ugly person. I know many working class people who are downright beautiful and many wealthy ones who are ugly. It's all in the eyes.

But I hear what you're saying.

As far as psychotics go. I'm not sure that was the best characterization of her. But I don't think the mentally ill would be insulted by everyone agreeing that she is delusional and should be ignored. I think we *do* have the right to characterize her as delusional, because she is not just wrong *factually*, her whole world outlook is hateful and skewed and this is what she is offering the world.

[Eloriel]

And if she's not possibly transsexual, then it's sexist as all get out

and I object to it on those grounds as well.

I'm sick and tired of women that we disagree with and even despise for ideological reasons being subjected to sexist names which demean ALL women, including me.

Three women a day are killed by men who claim to love those women. Do people really not get it that some of those men are calling those women bitch, slut or whore when they do that? That these and other terms DEMEAN women and make women as a class slightly less than fully human, which makes it easier to discriminate against them and to beat, rape and KILL them?

[ultraist]

28. well said!

The witch hunt mentality always leads to social violence.

[Bluebear]

32. A very enlightening statement.

Thank you. nt

[Vektor]

43. May I just say

she's a rotten person then? Gender aside, she is as mean and nasty as they get.

[Technowitch]

26. Bigotry is bigotry, even when it comes from our own ranks.

Well said, Maddiejoan. I found this 'suggestion' to be repulsive, too.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

4. Satan's Barbie nt

[pansypoo53219]

5. as she is of indeterminant sex

i call he an 'it'

[Haymare22]

6. I think bulumia

...is a must also. She sounds like a man......

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[RetroLounge]

7. To be a man or a woman

doesn't (s)he first need to be human?

Just asking...

RL

[readmoreoften]

8. good point n/t

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[readmoreoften]

13. what is the sound of one trans person clapping?

if a transperson falls in the woods and no one is there to care, will progressives never change their tactics?

Sorry Maddie. My partner is a transgendered FtM. These people probably don't understand what you're talking about. Unfortunately, I think our allies are few and far between.

But I just wanted to let you know, I'm listening. This progressive stands by you.

[maddiejoan]

15. Thankyou

I just wonder how people who freely use trans as an insult call themselves progressives at all.

[Bluebear]

17. Trans is not an insult.

I asked the moderator to remove the post. What is insulting to me is that Ann Coulter is held up as a spokesperson of the right although she calls for taking baseball bats to liberals. It offends me that gay men cannot marry or be part of 'normal' society yet Jeff Gannon is in the press room. The right embraces trans and gays as long as they talk the RW talk, evidently.

[readmoreoften]

20. WTF are you talking about?

Ann Coulter is not a transwoman! So-called liberals are just 'accusing' her of being one as if it's a bad thing...

[Bluebear]

21. If she is, so be it

Do you know that she's not, by the way?

[readmoreoften]

25. oh come off it.

that's not what this thread is about and you know it.

Do I know that Coulter isn't transgendered? Yes I do. I know that the notion is fairly preposterous considering that she would have to have undergone years of intensive hormone therapy and surgery to look as feminine as she does, and that this would be as easy to expose by showing a childhood photo, a teen photo, or looking up her school and college records, her DRIVER'S license for fucks sake.

She's just a tall, skinny, hateful woman. Stop bashing trans people.

[Bluebear]

27. I'm not bashing shit

I asked that an offensive post of mine was deleted and apologized to the person who was offended so lay off.

[readmoreoften]

33. I posted this before you deleted

Thanks for your retraction.

Everyone says offensive stuff now and then in the heat of passion. But you may want to look at all the crap that trans people have to deal with. From being murdered, to being denied driver's licenses (going on in NY now) to being raped, made fun of, and when not comically useful, ignored.

Saying Coulter is a man will seem as ridiculous to RWers as it does to many of us. There has to be a better way of attacking her.

Like, how about IGNORING HER COMPLETELY. Don't fuel her fire.

[Bluebear]

34. It wasn't the heat of passion

It was in the depths of ignorance.

Now please break something, grind the broken piece in my hand and pour lemon juice on it so I won't forget.

We surely must all stand up for each other or sink together.

[readmoreoften]

36. you're awesome, Bluebear

We're taught to despise gender varience from an early age. Everyone has to start learning sometime. No need to grind broken glass into your hands. Just educate yourself on the issues that trans people and their SOs face and we'd be proud to have you fighting along side us.

[Bluebear]

37. Cheers RMO

:toast:

[Clark2008]

41. Not to take away from what you're saying about transgenders

BUT, I should point out something:
There is a two-year discrepancy from when Ann says she was born (1963) to when she was actually born (1961). Therefore, there is a two-year period of time when something of the magnitude of which you speak could have occured, particularly if she had some feminine features to begin with.
And, as far as internet searches go, there is no known picture of her as a teenager or below. All pictures are from adulthood. I've been looking for two years.

That said, I completely agree with what you're saying about transgender folks and have no problem with it. Like Gannon, the point is the hypocracy, not the act. I don't care if Ann was a man or Gannon is gay. I care that they're full of hypocracy.

[Bluebear]

23. The post was removed at my request

I apologize for hurting your feelings.

[apple_ridge]

12. HS!!!! She has the hands of something from a Tim Burton movie.

[mwb970]

18. She reminds me a little of Marilyn Manson (n/t)

[retread]

14. The last time I saw an adam's apple like that on a woman was

in the movie The Crying Game!

[readmoreoften]

19. yeah ew! icky! transsexuals!

Ann Coulter is gross and a horrible person. She's so gross she's probably not even a 'real' woman. She's probably transgendered! Ha ha ha! She probably donates to http://www.ntac.org/

[ultraist]

24. oh be we are being "too sensitive and need to get a grip"

That's what I was told by a few angry posters when I noted that this mission to out Gay homophobic Repukes smacks of a witch hunt. The justification is: "they are being hypocritical" and we are morally righteous in hunting them all down and outting them! *with anger and vengence*

Outting Gannon is one thing, a witch hunt to out any GLBT Repuke is something very different.

[readmoreoften]

29. Or to turn them all into 'queers'

Coulter is a rotten human being. She's not a transsexual. And it's offensive to make 'unattractive woman' equivalent to transwoman. There are some beautiful transwomen in this world.

With Gannon, there's an excuse, because that fuckwad WAS fucking men and bashing queers...hypocrisy. But Ann Coulter is a RW straight woman and to demonize her by saying that she's a transsexual is pretty insulting to transsexuals.

[laylah]

16. But alas...

"But some women do have larger Adam's apples than other women, similar to how some women have facial hair or large feet, also characteristics that are more often associated with men".
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2487.html

[bloom]

22. I think she is equivalent to a neo-nazi

with her hate expressed toward liberals.


Maybe Neocon-Nazi or something similar would frame her well.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

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38. Coulter is a sideshow freak

and as such, should not be taken seriously. I find it exasperating when an intelligent person agrees to debate the monster. What's the point? Let's keep the embodiment of Ugly marginalized to the extent we can. The thing belongs only on the joke that is Faux "News".

[trumad]

40. God Bless all transsexuals... I mean that..

But Ann Coulters still a fucking man.