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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:40 AM
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Re: Guckert/Gannon- I don't believe "Guckert" is even his real name
As I watched the Cooper/Gannon-Guckert interview tonite, it suddenly struck me as he was answering Anderson Cooper's question about whether the White House knew his real name, he hesitates for a brief moment and then goes on to say "Because that is the name on my Drivers License"....He never actually says "because that is my real name"...

Just a sense I got from watching...I'm willing to bet that when his bottom got spanked upon being birthed, his birth certificate did not read "James Guckert"....

:eyes:

Anyone else think that too? I say to the Bloggers, keep digging....I don't think there is a birth certificate with that name from 47 years ago nor a social security number....I say that there is another name...Find that, and you find even more....
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:45 AM
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1. Yeah, there were others earllier that noticed he said it too.
I don't know why he said it that way. Most people would say "because that is my name" and not "that is the name on my drivers license".

I'm sure the bloggers are on it.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:54 AM
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4. Precisely the answer 99.9% that would be given "Because that's my name"
...and yet, he didn't say that....

I hope that the Bloggers are on to that and someone is digging up where Jimmy-Jeff was born and came from...

Me thinks his name is very different and we will find out some real interesting things...

If Jeff was worried about his "mistakes" it must be the ones we don't know about yet....

And you know what? Screw it - I want to know his personal life details...Any one who so moralizes and is questioning of others when he did "supposedly report" is not deserving to have his past and personal life protected....I want to know it all...and I want to know how this kind of person came to being in the White House the last two years....

:kick:
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MJP Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:56 AM
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6. Who are the bloggers? nt
nt
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:01 AM
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8. Citizen Patriots who love their country....People like you, me, neighbors,
friends, sisters, brothers, mommies like me....

I personally don't blog but know many...and I'm just a stay-home mommy/housewife in a wealthy california suburb who happens to be educated and cares about the truth. I have girlfriends and friends who "blog", either with their own or on others. In a way, its like the DU...people who contribute and share the info...and exchange ideas and information....you have to filter out the rumors and find the truth in what is uncovered....
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:03 AM
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9. Anyone with enough interest in things to keep up websites. EOM
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:54 PM
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30. truth seekers...people who want to know..everytime
the * cabal almost gets exposed for the lying killers they are..either dies in a plane crash, weird car crash, jumps from a building , shoots themselves in the >>back of the head(?)..runs off the road..gets hit and run at their front door step, is found floating with face down, is found in a field with pills and slit wrists that didnt bleed...you know the type..those with info to take down a president who was never elected dies in suspect ways ..over and over again!! yes the truth seekers are the bloggers..the people who care most about the fascist regime now running or controling our government who lie us to war for their profit... the truth seekers are the bloggers who are trying to protect their nation and save her from this murdering regime!

fly
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:56 AM
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5. There are four James Guckerts on Yahoo people search.
So the name exists in the usa.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:50 AM
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2. but who would make up a name like that?
It's awful.
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latteromden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:53 AM
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3. Do we even know where this guy was born? That would make things so
much easier.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 01:57 AM
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7. Well, the White House must on file a copy of his Drivers License
Hopefully with the FOIA requests and call for an investigation by Rep. Slaughter, some of that will come out and once we start seeing that, that will lead to other things and answers like where did this guy come from....
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:08 AM
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10. another interesting line:
"that was the job I was given" about reporting. Not, that was my job, but the passive voice. Like someone shoved him into the WH and said, hey, go report!
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:14 AM
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20. For me that's the most interesting phrase so far - "that's the job I was
given." By whom?

Sounds like a dutiful little SA-member in Nazi Germany... who's been given "assignments" to infiltrate or timidate or kill or - in this case - play the reporter. WHO gave him his marching order? Are others given marching orders?

-------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:24 AM
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11. His real name is Guckert
If he changed it for his driver's licence, there would be a public record.

Guckert is a German name -- folk out of Bavaria and the Black Forest -- many settled in PA, as did JD's family. They lived in the Philadelphia area. "Jeff" drifted between Philly and DC.

He also has a record as a Marine under the name Guckert -- very basic info is available; people are now seeking full disclosure via FOIA

Interesting that his sex industry name was "Bulldog" but when he sent the web guy his material, he was calling himself "Jeff Gannon". Not having had other instructions, his web provider labled his obscene photos -- from the "Barbarieni Faun" to the "Piss shots" as "jeff1.jpg, jeff2,jpg....." Mind you -- he was setting up this site DURING the George W Bush presidency! Why in heaven's name he used the same name/identity for "Jeff Gannon", WH Bureau Chief Talon News" and for "malecorp.com" -- I cannot see.

He wore his dog tags, at least when posing for Beef Steak photos for clients. Were they his, i.e. Guckerts? Or did he buy another one for Bulldog?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:43 AM
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12. If that is what his drivers license says
maybe he has false i.d. I've heard it isn't too hard to do. Maybe someone will recognize him from school or college (if he went), and come forth. It's strange no one has so far.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:51 AM
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14. He belonged to a fraternity
He was a TKE. He graduated from West Chester College, with degree in Phys Ed about 1980. I think -- underline -- I THINK -- he joined the Marines afterwards. (Others are pursuing a FOIA on his record, which appears to be legit)

If it is at least true, in parts, that people seeking to uncover info about him have located his mum, and his brother, and sister-inlaw (what "Gannon" calls harassment) -- they found them because of the common family name, GUCKERT, and the turf Bulldog lays out as his own on sites he whores himself on -- i.e. Philly and DC area.

His original name was James Dale Guckert. He uses it now when it is convenient to do so.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:53 AM
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25. I'm sure the Family must be real proud of ole' JD' eh?
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 12:02 PM by Pachamama
I can see it now - Mom and Dad Guckert letting the community know what their little boy has been busy doing all these years.... :puke:

Their son is a Whore....whoring his body and being a media whore....

Christian my ass.....nothing "Christian" about Jimmy-Jeff....only pure hypocrisy and no moral integrity....

PS: On edit please note - I don't feel his "sexuality" or "sexual preference" is a qualifier in that lack of moral fiber....his sexual preference and whether he is Gay is not an issue to me...its the plain fact that he is a hypocritical WHORE!
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:16 PM
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29. TKE or DKE?
Are you sure the frat was TKE and not DKE? It could be important, since another guy I'm looking at was a DKE.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:48 AM
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13. Does anyone else here have an "I don't give a shit" attitude?
It is game over, who cares? Let it go. GAME OVER! You will never find your murderess. She has moved on to another beach.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:55 AM
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15. No. Just you.
:-)

PS If it bugs you, try IGNORE and the "Hide Thread" option.Better to wear slippers than to try to carpet the whole world, as Stewart Smalley used to say. :-)
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 02:56 AM
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16. If you don't give a sh*t, why are you reading and posting in this thread?
:eyes:
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 06:18 AM
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21. Because I still care.
n/t
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smiley Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:02 AM
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17. Doesn't anybody else feel that this story is a distraction
to the real issues at hand such as the privatization of social security. This is nothing more than a smoke screen to keep us all preoccupied with an issue that really DOESN'T MATTER.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:19 AM
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18. I can walk and chew gum; you?
Edited on Sat Feb-19-05 03:19 AM by bunkerbuster1
I've been hammering Freepers on SS this week, but you bet your ass I'm enjoying any tidbits emerging on the Guckertgate scandal, and will continue to do so.
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 03:22 AM
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19. Yep...

... it becomes more and more obvious that "they" knew about Guckert/Gannon and allowed this to happen so as to have a smoke bomb to drop when (I hope) they are getting desperate.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:05 AM
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22. Thank you.
n/t
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:00 PM
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26. No, I think that this isn't the distraction - The Bushites probably
are going to need a real "distraction" soon to distract from all of the above....It's like this:

They needed the Social Security Story to distract people from the IRAQ War debate.

This Gannongate story is not a distraction from Social Security...they are going to want a distraction from it too....this leads to more things that they don't want to have exposed....

Oh what a tangled web they weave...The problem with this administration is that they are so morally corrupt and bankrupt that the "shell game" isn't working anymore...to many things to cover up....
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:10 PM
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28. exactly
look for a hyped up terror alert soon. this was not the distraction they wanted.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:02 PM
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31. He's one of the fabricators of the smokescreen, and the smokescreen is
what got us where we are today. now, go find yourself a nice
quiet social security thread if you're so damned facinated by it.
you are familiar with the ignore button, aren't you?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 07:06 AM
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23. Oi Pachamama!
:hi:

I would've asked Guckert where he got his journalism degree. :)

Anyway, I don't trust Anderson Cooper, CNN, or any of the other lizards on TV...



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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 11:49 AM
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24. Oi Swamp Rodent!
Remember when we were kids growing up and you could find in the back of the Comic Books ads for "correspondence classes & degrees"? Well, your right, I would have asked that question and revealed where I went and got my degree, "How about you Jimmy-Jeff?"

Ofcourse, that would only work if Anderson Cooper actually does have a qualifying journalism background - not sure what that entails these days, so maybe thats why AC didn't ask that question? (His is probably a good Ivy League education followed by lots of Mom's contacts - still better than Jimmy-Jeff, but I'm not a big Anderson Cooper fan - to his credit though, it was a damn good interview).

:hi:

PS: Who again fathered Anderson?
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 12:05 PM
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27. But would someone actually CHOOSE to be a guckert? n/t
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:08 PM
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32. exactly
it has to be real. When people make up names, they pick something better: Johnny Rotten or Cary Grant, for example. Not Guckert. It's horrible.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-05 05:08 PM
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34. The question he dodged was about his first name.
So "Guckert" is hard to spell and pronounce.

Why change the first name to? Most people are pretty well attached to their given names.

Cooper gave him a pass when he should have pressed.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 01:30 AM
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35. Changing James to Jeff makes no sense at all...not only is it not a hard
name to pronounce (I mean choose "Jim" then, why Jeff) but it also makes no sense, because while he bothered to keep his initials the same "JG", what would happen if he's walking down the street with someone "new" in his life and someone from his past (excluding "clients" - they might know him as Bulldog) but if that person from the past says "Hey James", then the new person wouldn't have their suspicions raised and say "why did that person call you James instead of Jeff?

:shrug:
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