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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 02:57 PM
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New Bumper Sticker: Religion Is A Very, Very, Personal Thing
We need something emotional to put on every car. To remind everyone who is religious (or even and agnostic like me) how personal it is - and how it should not be used like a football by 'political operatives'.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 02:59 PM
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1. Like your underwear, "personal and very private".
That's what my aunt says about religion.

"It's like your underwear, personal and very private."
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:06 PM
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5. And nobody wants yours shoved in their face and we all hate having
our noses rubbed in it.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:26 PM
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12. Here! Sniff My Dirty Shorts!!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:04 PM
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18. OHMYGOSH ARWALDEN THAT IS THE CUTEST DOGGIE EVER.
Sorry about the yelling, I just had an incredibly cute puppy moment. Is that YOURS?
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:39 PM
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26. Yes...
That's Mitzi, our four-year-old Shih Tzu. Thanks for the compliment.

-- Allen
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:22 PM
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31. Walking box of Kleenex is what I call them!1
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 05:44 PM
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32. LOL... Someone Said That She Was A Dustmop With Legs
The fur underneath her belly does tend to pick up bits of debris both inside and out.

-- Allen
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:33 PM
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13. "Share your religion like you share your underpants."
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:31 PM
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23. Seeing as how we know that religion can be a gene induced ability to have
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 04:35 PM by applegrove
faith - I do not think you can exclude religious types (I especially like the devout) from our pluralistic Liberal umbrella!

To be religious is the same type of thing as to love, or to be angry at injustice. To be religious is to be very human. I often wonder why Liberals feel so comfortable dissing the devout (not a universal occurrence). But why be against the idea of faith that makes you a little stronger and tries to teach good values.

Monotheism evolved to stop culturally suicidal and evil things like human sacrifices to the gods, etc.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:44 PM
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28. Gene induced ability?
I think you have confused the actual results and meaning of that study. Do you have a link to that study handy? I think I know what you are referring to.

It's not a gene induced ability to be religious, that's how the fundies have twisted the study, just as they twisted the recent research on the gay gene study.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:55 PM
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30. Excuse me but the people right now out living their lives for orphaned
children and making the heinous spots in the world bearable for the weakest of the weak are often blessed with that gene: the devout of many religions. The gene to do certain types of heavy lifting. The gene to know that there is more to life than materialism.

The fact that you look at one gene (gay) as good and another (ability to believe in higher power) as bad says something. No I do not know the details, and nor do I need to.

If it is human - it is under my umbrella.

I doubt very much that the worst religious offenders and politicos have the gene at all. The worst manipulators will just use the faith of others to get power. Just as the worst antisocial personalities will use human emotion (which they also don't have) to blind us.

But you have to admit that there are people who believe (who perhaps need to question authority more - I don't know) who do amazing things their whole lives. This is not saying they are any better than your or my agnostic liberal ass. They are just different. And capable of some heavy lifting that neither you nor I choose to do.
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Rush1184 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 02:59 PM
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2. Fundies would not get it...
and would most likely use it as a football like everything else.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:02 PM
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3. I agree, Fundies believe it is their duty to "Evangelize the Sinner"
ie, SPREAD RELIGION much like Bush believes he should SPREAD FREEDOM.

Check out some Fundie churches websites and you will find that in their mission statement.

Only certain religions believe it's private and personal and those are the ones that we don't really need to worry about.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:04 PM
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4. Fundies love 'The Great Commission'
And hate 'The Great Commandment'.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:14 PM
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7. if Ezekiel, Jeremiah, John the Baptist, Isaiah, Jesus, Paul, Mohammed, etc
had agreed, we would not have religion, would we?
Isn't that a plea for Christians to keep their religion "in the closet" where it belongs? It seems to me that a "personal and private" religion allows a person to claim to be a Christian, but then allows none of their convictions to actually be put into practice in their life. That is perhaps the kind of religion practiced by the Sam Walton family.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:29 PM
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21. I didn't say keep it private - I said religion is a very personal thing
Which implies an individual thing. Of course the way you act demonstrates the gods you are following. The idea is to reinforce the idea of religion as a non-hierarchical thing. Because many religions are that way and even most catholics do not skip 'birth control' like the pope asks and they know it.

Personal to me implies that religion is very important to some: up their with family and our deepest commitments. And that we should respect the sanctity of it in other people. Just like we would respect their family unit.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:41 PM
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27. They have bible quotes that back up their belief they should evangelize
Something about 'spreading the word of the Lord to every tongue, tribe, land, every corner of the earth...'

They feel it's their duty to convert people, "evangelize the sinner" because anyone who doesn't believe as they do, are sinners. It's a very ethnocentric worldview and has fueled all of the wars between different Christian sects (reformations & the three crusades).
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GoCubsGo05 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:08 PM
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6. Chicago Rush arena football fan, are ya?! n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:15 PM
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8. Go go go go go! Down and Out fiftheen
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GoCubsGo05 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:01 PM
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16. ??
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:13 PM
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19. Football play! What does n/t mean by the way, I am new
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GoCubsGo05 Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:30 PM
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22. I am new too, but I think it means No Text...n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:36 PM
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24. Tks n/t
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Rush1184 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:20 PM
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10. No, my surname is Rush
Hence...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:16 PM
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9. Are you sure it would not ring bells inside all the people who are not F?
Cause the Fundies are lost.

I love the idea that religion is a very, very, personal thing. That turns my crank!!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:25 PM
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11. "Leviticus Rocks"
It works on many levels.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:39 PM
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14. bwahahahaha!
yes it does indeed.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 03:39 PM
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15. Seen on a daycare schoolbus? lol
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:16 PM
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20. Okay - I just read Leviticus a few years ago - but for the life of me
I cannot remember exactly what it was about?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:03 PM
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17. I want one that says
"Have you participated in the marketing of Jesus today?"

But I'm afraid freepers sure as hell wouldn't get it.

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:39 PM
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25. I don't know about personal, but try these provocative ones. . .
Link:
www.turn-left.com


"Is Being Pro-War Pro-Life?"
http://www.cafepress.com/turn_left.15039843

"Pro-Life Means More Than Opposing Abortion"
http://www.cafepress.com/turn_left.15040057

"Do You Really Think Jesus Would Be A Republican?"
http://www.cafepress.com/turn_left.14312207


What do you think?

:bounce:
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 04:50 PM
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29. Good ones!
I like two, but not so sure about this one: "Pro-Life Means More Than Opposing Abortion" They would likely think, 'but of course! We oppose stem cell research and birth control'. JMO
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