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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:19 PM
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Poll question: A poll about random searches
How many people think that law enforcement officers should be able to do random searches of your home car and person without any reason to think that you have committed a crime (probable cause)?

How about if we are talking about your employer as far as your person (at work)and car (on the employers parking lot)go?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:54 PM
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1. And who decides probable cause?
Hopefully not the police doing the search and certainly not the employer, who has no right to do so.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:16 PM
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2. Kick...
...and i'd lke to see a few more comments too.

THX
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:22 PM
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3. Hell No.
I don't want anyone searching me, my house or my car without a signed search warrant. Why would anyone agree to be searched at random for no reason?
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:32 PM
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4. One of the things an employer will do is...
...have you sign a pre-employment contract giving them permission to search your car at any time. If you don't sign, you don't get the job.
Sounds like extortion to me.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:34 PM
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5. Yeah that's bullshit.
Nazi bastards.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:38 PM
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6. because people are weiinies i guess
I have been asked to give permission for a search. I said no. They kept asking. I kept politely saying no. The cops went on to an easier victim.

I don't understand the mentality of someone who won't speak up and say, "No, thank you" just because the person asking the favor is wearing a uniform. What really gets my goat is the people who consent to search who have drugs, money, or other contraband in the car. Why oh why didn't they "just say no?"

The cops might have searched anyway, but at least they would have a chance that the cops would either go away or see the evidence dismissed for illegal search without proper probable cause. You sign that piece of paper giving consent to a search, and you're effed.

And the majority of people, even trained professional criminals, if a cop asks the question, they just fall in line and say, "Yes." It gives you no hope for human nature because most people truly are sheeple.

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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 11:10 PM
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8. Here's one good reason to not give
permission to have your car searched.

You may have 'nothing to hide' but what if one of your kids borrowed the car. Now maybe you're pretty safe in assuming that your kid wouldn't have any drugs, but what if your child gives a friend a ride and the friend drops a joint in your car.

How do you explain that to your boss or a cop?
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 10:58 PM
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7. Never trust anyone with your freedoms are they will disappear behind
their own opinions of right and wrong which may not match your own as long as you do not break the law.

:kick:
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