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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:31 PM
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Is anyone else here appalled by the nationalism in the Super Bowl?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:32 PM
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1. Sickening! (eom)
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:32 PM
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2. yes my husband
he just turned off the superbowl to watch sci-fi channel.
tib
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:32 PM
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3. I might be if I were watching it.
But I'm not, partly because of what I expect it will be like this year. (Also because I think football sucks.)
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:32 PM
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4. Yes.
Completely. But then again, I'm nearly always appalled by nationalism, so I might not be the best person to ask. ;)
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:34 PM
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5. The false appearance of national unity
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 06:36 PM by teryang
the fraudulent linkage of a sordid colonial war to WWII. If our national prestige could fall any lower with our traditional allies this will do it.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:36 PM
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8. I know, it's insulting to those who fought in WWII
for them to use WWII to glorify the imperialist wars of Iraq and Afghanistan.
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:39 PM
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32. At the same time we are honoring the members of the greatest generation...
this government is in the process of cutting their Social Security and Medicare programs. I made mention of this to both my husband and brother-in-law.
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greyXstar Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:34 PM
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6. Yes, its disgusting! (n/t)
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:34 PM
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7. I am not watching it but yes I agree probably why I am not watching it
* will try anything since he knows most American do not like him or his policies any more. I am just sorry for the ones who look on him as if he were their god. They are a bunch of sick puppies.

:kick:
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:37 PM
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9. I'm glad I am not watching it
I used to be a loyal football fan--no more. I suspected this fascist overview would reign--sports events are susceptable to propagandist devices now. If it is true--I shy away, much as I like sports.

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:37 PM
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10. Vicarious battles never hurt anyone. Only if they glorify war, not
the sacrifice and pain, or the truth behind it all. And with this administration, the story of USMC Gen Smedley D. Butler (2x CMOH) who saved the republic from a 1932 coup attempt (composed of Bush's relatives btw), will never be shown on TV.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:37 PM
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11. Not appalled, but I don't see the point...
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:37 PM
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12. Appalled, yes. Surprised, no.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:38 PM
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13. Charlie Daniels is wearing his cowboy hat nice n' low
so you can't see his sad-ass puffed-up alcoholic eyes. God Bless Amurika!!
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:39 PM
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14. Just another sign of our fascist government.
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:39 PM
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15. It's the 1936 Berlin Olympics Redux >
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:43 PM
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16. Wow...good call
thanks, now I'm really depressed (j/k)
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:53 PM
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19. Yikes -- Thats it!
This country is doomed
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:44 PM
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17. Yes.
Who scripts and produces this pre-game jingoism? Fox? I guess Clinton is OK with it?

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LevineAdm5 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:48 PM
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18. Not watching
I'm watching the last 3 "Medical Investigation" shows that I TIVO'd
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:54 PM
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20. Hey it is faux
I've looked in from time to time, and only started watching just before the start because I knew what was in store.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:59 PM
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21. I'm watching the actual game but skipped all that pre-game crap and won't
watch the halftime stuff either...
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 06:59 PM
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22. Stupidity reigns supreme in the empire now... all else matters not. eom
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:10 PM
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23. amazed. disgusted. and somewhat sickened.
kind of like Germany and the nazi Olympics... or what I would have expected in communist Russia in the days of old...

spreading the "freedom" bs a bit thick and deep and the militaristic rah-rahs gave me a nauseating jolt.

have turned off the telly at this point. Frankly i would have preferred another Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction...
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:12 PM
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24. They go well together
Football and the military theme are a perfect match. That, and gambling, are the reasons it's #1 in this country.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:14 PM
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25. ???
What did they do?
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:14 PM
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26. Not watching, but Tampa's Gasparilla Parade has also been militarized
Some kind of tank or "emergency vehicle" and a whole slew of Guard units, etc. etc. at the beginning of the parade. Which is ironic since pirates aren't supposed to be about law and order.

But at a deeper level, empire and piracy are synonymous.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:32 PM
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27. This is surprising?
Most team sports, particularly football, are sublimated warfare. All the illogical, emotional cheering for 'your team', regardless of who the players might have been with last year or might be with next year, is pure jingoistic nationalism. Mix that with an unabashedly brutal sport like football, and you have the makings of false patriotism.

It's only a short move from there to turning a sports event into a patriotic rally.

I decided years ago that sports were not worth the emotional investment, unless I was directly involved. What does it really matter in the world who has run the most yards, who has the most RBIs, who is the top seeded player.

It's all a distraction from what is going on -- the circus half of bread and circuses.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:34 PM
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28. yes, i am. IT IS SICKENING... I used to live in Jacksonville and I can't
believe the way in which the bush fascist empire has taken over a previously incredibly healthy get together sports time in jacksonville...(and i just saw some pre-game something or other they were having as i switched channels on the local news stations).

There will be true celebration on the streets of MURRRIKKKAHHHH the day the bush fascist empire falls...as it has always happened anywhere when dictatorships of the right or of the left fall.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:25 PM
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29. The Super Bowl is tonight? Wow, guess I just forgot....
Have they scored any home runs yet?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:52 PM
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30. I am disgusted by it
First,

9/11 happened in 2001... that is 1243 days ago or 40 months and 13 days ago

Second,

Our military should not be losing their lives over in Iraq or any action under dimwits direction.

Third,

Football has nothing to do with the military

Fourth,

Football should not allow anything to use its time like this.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 08:54 PM
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31. Now Anheuser Busch got into the military bit
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:39 PM
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33. Not appalled
I don't see what the problem is.
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ThorsHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:29 AM
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34. Same here
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tralfaz Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:50 AM
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35. I agree n/t
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