Are we truly POWERLESS to stop the coming horrors?

[mopaul]

Are we truly, utterly powerless? Powerless to stop the grinning, cursed monster? Are we after all these hundreds of years, after all those who fought and died for America, and all those who have been murdered, powerless?

It sure looks that way.

[slay]

1. Sucks don't it?

Obviously the American people don't give a shit though. It's both sad and puzzling. To be fair though, most people don't know what's really going on. It's not like the corporate whore mainstream media is gonna tell them. Most people are too brainwashed by religion and nationalism to recognize the truth anyways. All hail Lord Bush - the rightful heir to Hitler.

[izzie]

6. I think you are wrong and in this way

I think their are a lot of Americans that like all this. They feel we are an empire and should rule the world so it is why they vote for Bush. This is not un-heard of as we know other countries that have voted in rulers that wanted to take over the world. We on this side just are not strong enough. I love this new plan on SS. See Washington Post. If your private account does make money the gov. is going to keep it any how. You are only going to get the amount you would have got under SS. I re-read the thing over and over. See what you think it said. So it is really a scam. Neo-cons are also pushing for a larger army.I think we now spend more than the rest of the world on arms.

[izzie]

7. See Not Quite Private by Weisman

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[ladjf]

13. I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps there's something

in the environment that's making Americans dumb.

[aneerkoinos]

18. Monsanto and co?

GM food, hormone beef, McDonalds flavonoids...?

[ladjf]

22. I'm about half joking. But, on the other hand, how can we

account for such a sudden loss of intelligence on the part of 50% of an entire population?

[aneerkoinos]

25. TV? n/t

[ilovenicepeople]

38. There's a reason why they call TV shows,

PROGRAMS :eyes:

[driver8]

45. There is a reason why some call the tv "the idiot box". n/t

[mhr]

2. Sure Looks Like It

eom

[rooboy]

3. I consider it the Napoleonic tactic...

when your opponent is busy making a mistake, don't interrupt.

[KG]

4. yep.

the facade is starting to erode, and the real meanspirited nature of our counrty is finally being seen for what it really is....

[NYC]

5. It looks that way to me, too.

Regarding "all those hundreds of years", we are not the same people. I think we have changed, and not necessarily for the better. Some of us are better; some of us are not.

Many people are willing to be walked on.

[xchrom]

9. we must talk about the character of the american people.

there has been a sea change -- and like talking about rovian tactics -- we must talk about the american people.
we tend to avoid it -- because it's distasteful.
much like we avoid serious discussion of rove.

it will take serious time and effort if we are to move the country -- but we won't get there with blinders on.

[NYC]

10. They are not what I thought they were.

[NYC]

37. xchrom, have you seen the movie

"Bush's Brain"? It's about Karl Rove. Unfortunately, it is an independent movie as opposed to a "box office smash". Excellent movie.

I saw it at the Tribeca Film Festival.

[natrat]

17. corn fed obese apathetic motherfuckers w/ no brains

that is what the average american has evolved into

[NYC]

35. Literally,

corn syrup fed. Tell people not to consume corn syrup. (I'm serious.)

[ultraist]

46. Baby formula is loaded with corn syrup

for real

[NYC]

48. I had no idea.

Someone ought to inform all mothers. That's a horror.

[liberal N proud]

8. We are unless we rise up and take America back

We can't just sit here and talk about it we must also get out and do something.
If you are a protester, protest
If not, get involved in some Democrat or progressive group. Start shaping thing in the party.
And every one can write letters to the editor and to congress.
We are not completely powerless, just knocked down again, but we must get back up.

[SmokingJacket]

19. What did Confucius say? Something like "A successful man is one

who is knocked off his horse nine times, but gets back on it ten times."

Even if we're doomed doomed doomed, we have to keep fighting those rat bastards tooth and nail.

I just hope I have the energy. It's killing me, man.

[leanin_green]

26. Jeez, another one who thinks the old tactics still work.

You write your little letters and carry your little signs. When will we all finally understand that this country has suffered a coup? It's the same bastards that took over in '63. Same group, different faces, the new generation brought up to believe as their father's did. We've been coming to this for sometime. You can watch it progress with each new administration. And now we don't even have a say in what the administration will be. They STOLE an election people! They can now put in who they want. Do you think it was only the presidency they rigged? It was Congress too. You can't have a coup unless you run everything. Executive, legislative, and eventually Judical. So write your letters. I'm considering other options.

[Lorien]

30. Write letters? Protest? We haven't done shit!

and what, exactly, IS your other option? Lay out the plan so others can reclaim America. The ONLY organized letter writing campaign I've seen since the takeover was against Sinclair-and that DID work. We don't do enough of anything, and that's the problem. Posting on DU doe NOT count as activism!

[leanin_green]

34. Like I said, I'm considering other options. It doesn't. . .

mean I have any. That letter writing campaign was aimed at a corporation, not entrenched government. I just don't think all the marching and writing letters works with an individual or individuals that think they are doing God's will. Do you know how many evangelical Christians(?) hold office today? Are you aware of the fact that the bush White House will not allow any thought or idea contrary to what W believes? If he won't even entertain contrary opinion around him, what chance do you think a bunch of marchers and letter writers have?

One option that I am considering is the notion of their so-called Christianity. I'm a Christian and I believe these people don't know Christ or preach his teachings. I'm considering getting active again in the churches and preaching against this false doctrine of theirs. That's one option.

[Conservativesux]

11. Yes, we are nation of cowards and spineless sheep...

Bush could round up people without due process and we would do nothing.

Oops, that already happened and we did nothing then.

So the answer is YES.

[bigtree]

12. i've resisted saying it

sure seems like all of our efforts have done little to stop the madness. up to our kissass reps now. can't find much faith there. still, I'm sure folks felt this way about nixon . . . there's always hope. on the other side, where despair lies, there's nothing but nothingness.

[Disturbed]

14. 2006 Elections

Elect Senators and Reps that will agree to impeach the Pres. VP and Sec. of Defense Rumsfailed.

[bigtree]

15. i'm with ya

hope we don't get a wishy washy band of moderate candidates who won't offer a stark alternative.

[natrat]

23. now how are we supposed to do that when our votes dont count?

hu smart guy? you see what they are doing in california ? trying to run the sec of state out of office so they can modernize us with tere voting machunes --headline-one of the last big bastions of liberalism to be stolen

[leanin_green]

27. Thank you, someone who gets it.

They say California is the state that what happens there eventually happens across the country. I'm a native Californian and although I am no longer living there, I'm looking to my people to set the tone for what's coming.

[flyarm]

28. in calif they are also

attempting to redistrict like they did here in fla and texas and colorado..wake up...now..get out in your neighborhoods and wake americans up...most dont read the internet!! most dont know whats being done to them..please get out there and educate!!

fly

[Telly Savalas]

50. Every Senator who voted against the Iraq War Resolution...

won reelection by more than 10 percentage points. If the GOP were systematically rigging elections to quell all dissent, wouldn't these people be first on the list of candidates to stop?

[bobbieinok]

32. won't work if right STILL controls media and voting

[natrat]

36. nixon nowhere near this

[AG78]

16. It's quite the machine

When some inside the machine(Grover Norquist as the point man) are waiting for the WWII generation to die, because they see their economic outlook as pussy-footing unAmerican liberal crap, it doesn't look too good.

[Ani Yun Wiya]

20. NO ... we are NOT powerless...

500 dollars us and the game ends

You down?

[yella_dawg]

21. Since WWII

society has fragmented almost to the level of the nuclear family. Almost no one knows their neighbors. You might socialize with a few of your coworkers, but that is the limit of the average American's daily social interaction. Most adults' peer groups are characters in TV dramas.

How the hell are we going to get together and shake off the tyrant when nobody trusts anyone, because they're all strangers?

[natrat]

24. im throwing a superbowl party-your all invited

[Lydia Leftcoast]

49. I think that's why European countries can hold such massive demos

They still have neighborhoods. Real neighborhoods, and gathering places such as bars and cafes where you discuss politics with people you've known all your life.

[Lorien]

29. No. We choose to be powerless.

we're a lazy bunch. We don't march against tyranny like those in other countries do. We don't bombard businesses and the media with letters of outrage that help to set the agenda like the RW does. Last year, we actually DID take a moment away from posting vanity threads to write to Sinclair's corporate supporters, and we made a difference. But now it's back to business as usual; whining away while the Activism forum fills itself with tumbleweeds.Whenever someone DOES dare to suggest a worthwhile action around here, some freeper troll or DLCer posts that letter writing campaigns and marches don't do a thing, and everyone sighs with relief because the freeper has successfully given them permission to be lazy and sit on their hands while the misadministration does whatever it wants without a peep of protest from us. Hell, just a year ago when someone from the press posted that when his paper receives four hardcopy letters on an issue, they start giving that issue some attention, he was shouted down by naysayers, who urgently wanted DUers to remain as inactive and disorganized as possible. It worked. Nothing was done to make an issue of anything, and the repugs continue to set the agenda.

WE are our own worst enemies; our laziness, our disorganization, our contentment with kvetching and our determination that "someone else" will deal with it, or it's all the medias fault, or the elections are all rigged, so why bother. So boo hoo hoo We've gonna sit here and feel smug about how right we were that everything is turning to crap in this country-and hey! Let's go to LBN to find something new to complain about!

There are activists, but they are few and far between. Get up, write a letter to your paper, sign a petition, plan a march, or come to grips with the fact that maybe you really do like things the way that they are(and this is a general "you", directed at all of us on this site).

[Poiuyt]

31. We need to get the media back

Not only do Bush and the conservatives control the mainstream media, they've also convinced America that the media has a liberal bias. I think if we can get the media to stop being shills for Bush, it will go a long way to get the country back on the right track.

[Matriot]

52. I concur

But we're never going to just get the media back. We have to have our own national news media. Then the problem we'll have is a state of confusion. You'll have the real facts with one news group and then you'll have the twisted facts in another.

I wonder if the blind sheeple will actually try to educate themselves to find the truth, or comfort themselves with the twisted lies.

[Cleita]

33. It could be done, but if you have ever tried to organize a

group of liberals for anything, like forming a union, the phrase herding cats comes to mind. I think we need to identify a leader amongst us who can do what Martin Luther King did and what Ghandi did.

YooHoo! Anyone out there? Will you lead us?

[Greylyn58]

39. Everyday something new comes out from these monsters

and I like you feel totally powerless. There have been days since the elections when I felt so horrorified I've wanted to break down. It doesn't help that I'm out of work and have used up all my savings and then some.

Now, shrub and his menions want to take away the money that should be there for my old age. I feel like crying as I type this because I just don't know what we can do to make these people go away. I keep hoping that something will snap and the country will realize that he and his group are destroying us.

I've never felt so helpless. The rage that fills me sometimes is almost too much to bear.

:argh: :grr:

[Rex]

40. We lose 9 billion here, kill 100k people there

The American Empire has long been in the planning stage - they had plans on the table to attack Iraq in 1996.

Their will to destroy for "capital" makes them THE most dangerous cartel, and biggest threat to every living creature.

No one has the balls to stop them.

They are Necromongers.

[Tace]

41. Mo, I Don't Think We're Utterly Powerless

I think we're fighting a dragon, but I think we will win in the end.

[prairierose]

42. Not unless people actually get out and do something....

we can't just post here & talk about it. Talk to people you meet. There is always a spot in conversation where you can slip in some interesting info from "real" news (that which does NOT come from US MSM) Not to mention things you see, i noticed looking at sign on fast food places that inflation is probably started. When they start raising the prices of the bottom menu items we are heading for inflation. Mention that to someone, I usually ask a question? " Hey, did you notice......?"

Because I mention stories that are never covered in our media, my students have started asking where I get my news and so after class I give them some websites to look at. I always call Walmart, the evil walmart. I try not to get too crazy but there are ways that you slip information in that makes people wonder what you know. However, I view that as only a beginning. Something that should be done at all times.

Because I am a poet, I'm working on a series of poems that deal with our history and the current perversion of both our govt and history. I'll start reading them in public soon & when I think they are finished, I'll publish them somewhere.

I also write many letters to my congress critters as well as state legislators. The 2 issues I'm focusing on now with local pol critters are : the proposed gay marriage ban in this state & the future of our votes.

Other people have other talents and should find what they can do to spread the reality based community. Hopefully, we will be able to reach a point where we can make a loud noise with our numbers.

On the other hand, there are many days when I just do not want to talk to anyone and just want to leave this country.

[DARE to HOPE]

43. Poetry is good! :-)

Hey, gang--we have just shown the crazy Bush gang that we are NOT wimps!

John Conyers, Jesse Jackson, Stepanie Tubbs-Jones and Barbara Boxer led the way!

Then the courageous 13 voted against Condi, the Liar!

THEN we had almost all the Dems nix the Torture Guy!

NOW we have them drawing a line in the sand over Social Security that the Repubs are scrambling to recover from!

People turning their backs and shaking up the inauguration, half of Congress booing the SOTUS, conversations today, even in the MSM, about Bush's plans not exactly being honest--and he has yet to go to Europe.

God is with the Truthtellers! The Good Guys are gonna win! We all get discouraged when we hear too much TV.

LOTS of folks are upset with Bush, even the CIA guys and Pentagon types giving Sy Hersh his material.

As Jesse says "Keep hope alive!"

[evolvenow]

44. Support Doug Wallace Vs. Bush---Sue theWar Criminal--Maybe goes to Gitmo

http://www.dougwallace.com

[ultraist]

47. We are NOT powerless!

>GO TO A MARCH 19 ANTI WAR RALLY!

>WRITE LETTERS TO THE EDITOR TO HELP EDUCATE PEOPLE

>VOLUNTEER FOR YOUR LOCAL DEM PARTY TO HELP GET LOCAL DEMS ELECTED AND START BUILDING THE BASE FOR 06 AND 08

WE ONLY NEED A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION TO GET ON BOARD WITH US TO TAKE SEATS IN 06 AND TAKE BACK THE FUCKING RIGHTY WHITEY HOUSE IN 08!

It's not unsurmountable. GET SOME MORE VOTERS ON OUR SIDE AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE REGISTERED AND GET THEIR ASSES TO THE POLLS!

I REFUSE TO SURRRENDER!

[BeFree]

51. Well,

Ain't you a fountain of farts?

Mopaul, don't be so damned depressing, it really doesn't look good on you.

I see a small little light at the end of the tunnel, I just hope it ain't a train. That light tells me that the end is coming, the travail is about over, the sun to shine bright as it ever was!

Then again, it could be a train.