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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:04 PM
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What if everyone registered on DU pulled all their assets from the banks?
60,000+ people all on the same day divesting themselves of this corrupt system. I think that would have quite an affect on our economic system. Would it trigger a crash?
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sw04ca Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:05 PM
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1. Why would anyone want to do such a thing? /nt
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:08 PM
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9. I'm not asking why, I'm asking "what if"
As in corporatists use their money against the masses why not reverse the situation.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:10 PM
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10. Good question
I wonder if it will be answered.

Its easy enough, I suppose, to forget that lots of regular people will be hurt in such a financial firestorm.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:56 PM
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31. lol lol i was thinking the same, and then what
do we do with our money
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sw04ca Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:58 PM
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32. Invest it all in the stock market!
Probably not a good idea. :p
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:26 PM
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37. Buy gold with it and move to a country we can take over!
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:07 PM
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2. atleast half have been tombstoned freepers
about 20,000 lurkers, 5,000 uncaught freepers and 5,000 True DUers
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:07 PM
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3. And just what would you suggest we do with our money?
It's very difficult to pay bills without a checking account.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:07 PM
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4. My share would hardly be a dent in the system
They hardly know I'm there anyway.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:14 PM
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11. Your share + my share + her share + his share
It adds up. That is how the corporatists have gained so much power. How does Kraft make a gazillion dollars when you alone may be buying only a 99 cent box of mac 'n cheese.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:08 PM
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5. I did it 20 years ago
I only deal with credit unions
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:08 PM
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6. It isn't as simple as you might think
We would all have to cash out our IRAs, ESOPs, 401Ks, CDs, and any other financial instruments. We would also have to drop all credit cards and, presumably, any other debt like home mortgages, car loans, student loans (good luck there, Sally Mae is like a ravenous wolf who smells meat). It couldn't possibly be all on one day- maybe in one month, but probably more like a 60 to 90 day window.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:24 PM
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18. You may be right
However look at the L.A. riots after the Rodney King verdict. The catalyst behind that was a "routine" traffic stop. Los Angeles was on fire for days, people were barricading their neighborhoods and standing watch on top of there houses with shotguns.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:27 PM
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19. I'm not sure I understand your meaning
To me, it's not a question of motivation, but of sheer logistics. Though certainly motivation would become a factor once the logistical hurdles were overcome. As for Rodney King, that was an infinitely more complex issue.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:44 PM
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27. The market is so sensitive that the mere mention of a "run on the banks"
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 03:45 PM by Goathead
could be enough to trigger such an event. As for Rodney King, police brutality occurs everyday. That incident just happened to be caught on tape. One man video taping a group of men beating another man, a singular event. Would the L.A. riots have occurred if somebody had not video taped the incident? Probably not. In L.A. you had a huge disenfranchised segment of the population that was the proverbial powder keg, the videotape of the Rodney King beating was the match. I believe that you have a huge segment of the population that is disenfranchised by Bush and his policies. What will be the match that ignites this powder keg or will their be one? There is a lot of energy that those on the left are suppressing, a lot of anger and hatred for Bush.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 04:12 PM
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35. Okay, so is this situation better now?
Are those people less disenfranchised?

I would say no.

Do you think Bush would lose his job if the poor started rioting or would the poor simply get killed and destroy their own places(because you can be damn sure the police/army would protect the rich)?

If not, what is the purpose other than venting?





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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:08 PM
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7. I'm more and more shifting my assets out of the dollar, because....
I expect the Bush dollar to keep dropping.

I might be wrong. But it looks to me that this nation is living high on the hog, while the mortgage coupons are going unpaid.

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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:08 PM
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8. I heart credit unions!
eom
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:14 PM
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12. I suggested this Nov 3
People to pull their investments, or at least put them in blue friendly businesses. People say they are outraged and want a change. But not enough to sacrifice their own cog in the corporate wheel. This is what the DLC responds to, the reality of what Democrats really do with their money which tells you they don't really want the kind of change they scream about. Not when it comes right down to it.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:18 PM
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14. I hear you
...and agree wholeheartedly. Per haps the mere mention of action like this may be the spark that triggers change. Though many would identify it as heresy or even treason.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:15 PM
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13. What assets?
Hey, I'd pull 'em if I had 'em.

What if we all just bounced checks? At least that doesn't require me to go to the bank.

I'm a lazy anarchist.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:18 PM
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15. would do nothing at all
sorry to say...but 60,000 out of 200,000,000 is not even a blip on the radar...

theProdigal
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:20 PM
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16. Crash?
Of the economy? You must be kidding. Most of our assets are not liquid, and those that are, make up a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, fraction of the economy.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:22 PM
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17. What is it, one percent of the people. . .
control 35 percent of the nation's wealth. . . the top 5 percent control some 60 percent . . . the top 20 control 80 . . .

All of us combined, along with every extended family member we could muster and all their friends thrown in for good measure probably wouldn't warrant a statistical blip on the nation's true wealth.

Sorry to put it so bluntly, but those are just some of the cruel facts of our world.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:28 PM
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20. It could trigger a "run on the banks" n/t
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:34 PM
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24. So you want to cause a financial panic?
You do know who would get screwed on that don't you?

Here's a hint...it wouldn't be the rich.

As for the LA riots, what did they accomplish beyond destroying their own neighborhoods?
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:48 PM
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28. They were actually marauding through the streets of several neighborhoods
and nearly made it to Beverly Hills. "The rich" were leaving L.A. in droves.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 04:07 PM
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34. Whose neighborhoods were destroyed?
The fact that the rich left town for a brief period is no reason to celebrate when the people most deeply hurt by that verdict had their neighborhoods destroyed. South Central suffered the brunt and the most damage even if eventually rioters/looters made their way downtown. How was this a positive (even as an end result) for African Americans?

And getting back to your original post - who would get screwed in the event of a panic run on the banks?




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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM
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40. Are you serious?
It probably wouldn't even be statistically significant.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:31 PM
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23. Yes that's true
But we did make a difference with Sinclair through the shareholders. That's the only time I think there has been any effect from activism on the left.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:28 PM
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21. My meager assets wouldn't make any difference
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:30 PM
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22. What assets?
I live paycheck to paycheck, and besides, the Saudis aren't stupid (nasty, but not stupid): they're likely buying EUROS as fast as the bank transfers can clear.

Wait a while: the crash is coming on its own, fast enough.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:38 PM
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25. How about if I pull all my assets out of Wild Bill's Pawn Shop?
Nah...probably won't have the same effect. :eyes:
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the_outsider Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:38 PM
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26. That's probably impractical but something similar can be done
by diversifying assets (whatever little we have) into foreign stocks, bonds and currencies. Both Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have been short on dollar for a while and most of the really rich people are hedging themselves by reducing dollar-denominated assets for a while. They have been investing heavily in emerging markets like China and India.
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:50 PM
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29. Yes I know
It is just hypothetical.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:51 PM
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30. While I appreciate the spirit behind the post
There is no way I would trash my investments, pay extra fees, and put my family in a precarious financial situation for a blip on the bank's radar screen. What would this accomplish? Not much. The BIG players control the economy.

There has got to be a better way to make an impact that doesn't adversly affect us. Cutting our noses off to spite our faces doesn't sound too appealing.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 03:59 PM
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33. Would someone in the know please post credit unions that are honest
I really don't know where to start. I will transfer these funds as well as stock from unethical corporations.
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tralfaz Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:25 PM
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36. Why?????? n/t
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:37 PM
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38. There might....MIGHT.... be $1 million in liquid assets here
The economy is $11 Trillion. I can't even do the math at how unbelievably small a number that is.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:28 PM
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43. well, there are 60,000 registered persons here
and if each one had only $500 that's $30M right there...but that is assuming you are dealing with all 60,000

theProdigal
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Peak_Oil Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM
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39. There'd be about two empty ATMs that day. n/t
That was funny, big guy.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:44 PM
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41. I wouldn't be much of a help on that one lol
"the system" has already drained my family of any significant assets.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:07 PM
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42. My bank would say
"MY GOD!!!! WE'VE LOST $8.37 OVERNIGHT!!!"
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