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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:18 AM
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Important: ABC's Nightline tonight was censored! report from audience
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What you will NOT see on tonight's ABC Nightline!!!

by NewWay4NewDay

Thu Jan 27th, 2005 at 19:19:41 PST

I just came from the townhall meeting hosted by Ted Koppel at St. John's Episcopal Church across from the White House in Washington D.C.

The topic is IRAQ: Why Stay?

The panel consisted of Joseph Wilson, Sen. George Allen (R), and Rep Marty Meehan (D)

There was some good dialogue, but mostly ended up that time was given primarily to the pro-war agenda. There were a few outbursts that will probably be edited out, and one major outburst from a Rabbi Waskau that you will not see because it was during a commercial break.

I am posting this now, so you are aware, and will watch Nightline, but am going to keep adding to this diary continuously until I can accurately describe the event as I witnessed it.
Diaries :: NewWay4NewDay's diary ::

It started out seemingly okay. People were asked to submit questions to producers.

I submitted a question... it was about the effects of Depleted Uranium on our military personnel and Iraqui Civillians, and I wanted to ask what has been done to protect our troops from exposure to radioactive dust particles, and wanted to know if the Veterans Administration is prepared for the long term health effects to soldiers & their offspring caused by over exposure to DU.

The producer told me that since there were no helath experts on the panel, it was not a proper question for the theme of the show, and So, I restructured my comment, and she said it was better and would run it by the executive producer: "As a navy veteran who was deployed to the Persian Gulf in 1991, I am concerned that America is not prepared for a resurgence of Gulf War Syndrome" and that the Veterans Administration is ill-equipped to deal with the long term health issues faced by soldiers who have been exposed to Depleted Uranium".

So, We all sat and waited for the program to begin.

It starts out with a Democratic congresswoman from Illinois (can't remember her name) underscoring that she felt the war was based on a lie etc.

Then Ted Koppel asked if their were any military people who wanted to respond. The first woman who got the mic (I think by accident) was a woman who had lost her husband in the war last year and said she was a part of a group (I think Millitary Famlies Speak Out, but not sure) who gave a heartfelt plea to pull out of Iraq before anymore spouses had to go through what she had gone through.
From there, it started becoming clear that the pro-war people were going to be given more time to speak than people who dissented. The next comment came from a woman who also lost her husband (actually in the same unit as the other wife) and she gave a patriotic speech about how poud she was that he had died for his country etc and that we needed to finish the job of bring freedom to Iraq.

So, it went on this way, with the pro-war side taking precedence.

Then, during the third commercial break Rabbi Waskau stood up and loudly said, "I was invited hear to speak, but then was told I could you would not allow anyone from the religious community to sit in the front row and that I would be allowed to make a comment later if I would take a seat in back. But now I have been told that I will not be allowed to speak at all."
(upon hearing that, I realized that nobody had spoken from a religious/faith based perspective, and wondered if that was indeed intentional).

He went on, "So I will ask my question now during the break so as not to cause embarrassment to you Mr. Koppel"

Ted Koppel said, "Thank you, go ahead"

The Rabbi spoke: "You do not want the religious community to speak beacause we DO see the BIG picture (reffrencng a marine who had spoken earlier saying that people who were for ending the occupation in Iraq di not see the big picture) "We know the story of the Pharoah, who tried to hold back God's people, and that the Pharoah's lust for power was so great that we pushed his army against the Hebrews again and again no matter how many time's he failed... he continued to deny the circumstances until the amry of Egypt was beat down and depleted at the expense of his subjects." (I wish I could communicate the eloquence with which he spoke)... "President Bush is the Pharoah, and he has stripped the American people of basic social services such as healthcare and education in order to arrogantly keep up his holy war. I will no longer stand for the U.S. governmen and the media denying the religious community our voice. The common people of the Untied States and of Iraq and elsewhere are suffering."

Then he said he was done, (there was definitely some applause during parts of his speech) and he was escorted out the church where the Nightline episode was being taped.

Antother outburst happened toward the last half hour when a tall older African American gentleman went up to a mic without permission and siad, "ask Richard Perle about the PNAC... that's all I've got to say... I'm outa here!"

Then, it went on and during the last break their was a similar occurence as to the rabbi's, when an Iraqi spoke loudly saying, there are many Iraqi's here sitting in the back, and we were told we could speak, but have been denied."

Before it went further, Ted Koppel said they would be given a chance to speak in the last seven minute segment.

However, when the show started again, one man was brought to the microphone from another section... not from where the first Iraqi said he and others were sitting. That one man said he was an Iraqi and represented the majority of Iraqi's and he supproted the U.S. freedom fighters, and only a small percentage of Sunni's were angered by the U.S. presence in Iraq. that was all.

Ted Koppel went to the closing statements and let each of the four guest panelists have their say, then started to do his closing.
I was upset that nothing was said about the health of our troops mentally, physically or otherwise.

So, I satrted chanting "GULF WAR SYNDROME" over and over again, very loudly so it filled the church and drown out Ted Koppel.

He replied, "I am sure I have no idea what you're taking about"

and I yelled, "It's about Depleted Uranium!"

Then I shut up, and he finished his closing and it was over.

As I was waiting to filter out with everybody else, I heard one of the Iraqi's, who was very upset, talking to a producer: "This is not what we expected, we were told we would get a chance to speak in the press release you sent us, and you did not give us the chance to say what we came to say."

The producer just kind of appeased him... nodded and stuff.

That's it.

I think they will probably re-shoot Ted Koppel's closing.

I just wanted you to post this so the whole story could get out there... pass it on as you deem appropriate.

I am really feeling at this moment that the media is intentionally trying to appear as they foster "free speech" and "open dialogue", but are actually doing everything they can to keep dissenting views muted and to a minimum.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:24 AM
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1. that explains a lot. it looked like there were some upset people
in the audience. koppel should be ashamed, but I guess that paycheck makes up for those bad feelings.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:26 AM
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2. Thanks for that report.
It's just what I would expect from the "liberal" media. :eyes:
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:27 AM
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3. Thanks for posting this
I kinda felt the Iraqi dude * cheerleader HAD to be paid off. I waited to hear from other Iraqis. It's so subtle how the MSM ( and Ted Koppel can kiss my ass now that i read this) gets folks to believe this administration's fantasies. Watching tonight, you would assume that ALL iraqis love us and want us there, even after Meehan TWICE said that State Department surveys show 70-80% of Iraqis want us gone.

After reading this, I see how, once again, Koppel and his kind diminish the very real pain and seriousness of the American situation. He can rot in hell, too, even though earlier I was kind and said he tried to keep it even. I see now that a disproportionate number of brown nosers got to speak, while many who had something else to say were censored.

Hey, Koppel. Kiss my patriotic ass, Dickhead. You suck.
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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:30 AM
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4. I have reported this to media matters myself
I think we need to write letters to the editor or something. This needs attention. This crap cannot stand.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:31 AM
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5. This is not surprising.
I was turned off by the election fraud show they ran. It was complete propaganda. And now this.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:33 AM
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6. Thank you. I know it's hard to do what you did. It does not come naturally
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 02:36 AM by buddysmellgood
to most of us. We are not raised to stand up and make a scene. But that is exactly what we need to do. sometimes it is the only way. It takes courage to do what you did and I thank you.
Oops. Sorry. Reread the original post. But it took courage for you to repost it too...or ... well thanks for posting :)
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:39 AM
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7. Time to fire off an e-mail to Mr. Town Meeting!!!!
Aren't these journalists concerned about what is going on? OMG! How the hell do they get off pulling this crap? It is hardly a town meeting if it is censored! I wonder if Kennedy's new bill (propaganda) will put the brakes on some of this shit!
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GreenPoet64 Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:41 AM
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8. Thank you for sharing. n/t
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:43 AM
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9. They call themselves "America's Broadcast Company"
what did you expect from a mickey mouse operation?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:10 AM
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15. Follow the money...

Let's see... ABC is owned by Disney...
Disney is supported by large investments from the Saudi Royal Family

Nope, no surprise here.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:44 AM
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10. Thank you so much for posting this...
I'm absoloutely aghast at having read your account, but am thankful that there's a way (the internet, DU specifically) to let a lot of people read it all at once.

You keep speaking freely; you're an American, and have every right to do so.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:41 AM
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11. Why was Richard Perle there? I'm surprised that he can sit in a church &
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 03:42 AM by Pachamama
not burst into flames....the man is pure evil.... :grr:

Anyone watch his snarling, especially when a wounded Vietnam Vet in a wheelchair went off about how Iraq is a lost war....
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:52 AM
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12. Joe Wilson was great....Perle looked like he wanted to kill him...Joe
pissed him off good and made his point well about the failures...Perle looked ready to leap....

It must have been great being there and watching in person...

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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:54 AM
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13. Saw the uncensored parts
What was really interesting...and would like to know.
Having lived in DC more than half of my life, the demographics in that room didn't seem to match the demographics in the city.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:10 AM
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14. This is a shame
ABC is the only major network news I can stand to watch anymore. I guess I shouldn't expect much from them since they are still part of the corporate media. Free speech is only free if you own the media.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:49 AM
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16. Hmm...would this have anything to do with $inclair Broadcasting?
They own a bunch of ABC affiliates...

Last March, they censored the Nightline where Ted Koppel wanted to read the names of the Iraq war dead,

They tried to air the $mearpiece "Stolen Honor..."

and now this

I think I see a pattern here :eyes:
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:29 AM
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17. kick
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:38 AM
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18. Kick!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:42 AM
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19. Better than most
I'm disappointed to hear that this was editted as described as it appeared to be live, but while viewing it, my view was that it was heads and shoulders above the current level of tv. Wilson and Meehan were great. They did coherently explain their positions. (Even though Kopppel tried to push Meehan (How does Massachusetts get so many good politicians?)to a leave/stay (black/white) answer.) Although Bobby Muller came across as over the top he did make some incredible points.

Although I wish Koppel would have put Perle's role in starting the war in perspective - Wilson made him look like a fool. Allen seemed to be out of his league and contributed almost nothing but platitudes. I did NOT like Koppel's statement that all of them were really saying the same thing - more of the Kerry isn't different from Bush re: Iraq last year - when there were very real differences. The main difference may actually be dissavowing long term bases/influence of US.

All the same, my husband's comment at one of the first commercial breaks was exactly what I was thinking - Why is this on now rather than anytime in the last year and a half. I really do hope that at some point the media regrets that it was totally co-opted by the Bush administration.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:45 AM
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20. it will get worse from here...they will quit pretending and just silence
any voice that has an opinion that is contrary to the global elite who benefit from constant wars.
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