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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:21 PM
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Black Republican Senators and House Members Outraged
at Condi's treatment at the hands of racist Democrats.

BREAKING NEWS: Scores of Black Republican Senators and dozens of Republican African-American House members expressed their extreme indignation over the treatment of Dr. Rice by partisan racially motivated Democrats. Black Republican Senator _________ summed it up when he said; "We gave all of our support 100% to Clinton appointees like Ron Brown and every single Clinton judicial nominee. As evidence, Black Republican Senator _________ provided the following:

"There had also been long delays on nominations to the conservative Fourth Circuit. No African American had ever served on the Fourth Circuit (covering North and South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland), even though it was the federal circuit with the highest percentage of African American population in the country. Clinton was determined to appoint an African American there, but conservative Republicans led by Sen. Jesse Helms of North Carolina had blocked every African American nominee that Clinton had submitted. Three never received a hearing. A fourth, James A. Beaty, Jr., was approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee, but his nomination was blocked from receiving a vote of the full Senate. Helms claimed that filling the four vacancies on the fifteen-member appeals court was unnecessary and would actually make the court less efficient (a position he reversed when George W. Bush became president). And, in October 1999, the Senate had outright rejected a judicial nominee by a full vote of the Senate for the first time since Robert Bork in 1987. The nominee, Ronnie White, had been tapped by Clinton to fill a federal District Court post in Missouri. The Senate Judiciary Committee approved him in a bipartisan vote, but he became caught up in the judicial log-jam that stalled his nomination for the next two years. When his name finally went to the floor of the Senate for a vote, Missouri Senator John Ashcroft led the opposition, calling White, who is an African American, “pro-criminal.” The Senate defeated White along a party-line vote. Later, when President Bush nominated Ashcroft to be Attorney General, Ashcroft had to respond to repeated allegations that he had distorted White’s record."

errr.....wait a second that's not the right document. You mean to tell me that there are NO Black Republican Senators or House Members? That just can't be!!!! Why these paragons of racial equality surely have at least one African American in the Senate???

Are you kidding me? The Party that has the best interest of Black Americans at heart DOES NOT HAVE ONE SINGLE BLACK IN ALL 535 SEATS IN THE SENATE AND HOUSE????

I'm shocked! Shocked!!!!, I tell you.

This must just be more evidence of those evil racist Democrats keeping the black man down.

<sarcasm off>
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:25 PM
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1. Constructive....
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 01:27 PM by xultar
:crazy:


You think pointing out that Rethugs are racist are going to help us.

Sorry, remember TONS of Blacks voted for * in 2004. Blacks voted 4 the guy who is in the party who wants to prevent blacks from voting and they STILL voted for *. There was a much higher BLACK vote FOR RETHUGS this election. Which basically means Religious Black Democrats crossed over.

Now, if they are going to vote for a guy who wants to suppress their vote you think doing this is going to prove the point.

:crazy:
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:29 PM
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3. No entry found for Construtive :)
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:34 PM
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5. Some religious black Democrats crossed over
but not enough to lose sleep over I am sure.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:44 PM
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:22 PM
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26. Why? What's going to be funny?
That the Republican Party manages to persuade more african americans that democrats are racist when the poster above makes it clear that they aren't? That African Americans, who now make up a portion of the prison population nearly double their proportion in society, are subject to even harsher criminal penalties that target them in a discriminatory way?

Or will it be funny that the Republicans, who believe racial profiling is OK, by the way, in the pursuit of law enforcement goals, have fewer black voters in opposition to their policies?

Or will it be funny that Affirmative Action, a Democratic Ideal anathematic to Republicans, is completely done away with?

Or will it be funny when african american schoolchildren, who now drop out of high school at about five times the rate of non-minority kids don't go to school at all under the "No Rich White Child Left Behind" initiative?

I don't understand what's funny.
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henrik larssonisking Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:22 AM
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32. its not the hard numbers
but the trends that will kill the democratic party. If and its a big if the trend increases whereas religious minorities start to see the dems as a godless party, then its curtain times. My neighbour crossed over to the side of the empire on the issue of gay marraige alone.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:58 PM
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7. Are You Kidding me? Sorry
But when the "right-wing" takes the shrink wrap off of their new "Democrats are racist" mantra, and tries to feed it to me, I for one will loudly and repeatedly run up the "bullshit flag".

Do you think we should just not respond to crap like that? Do you think that, if the Emperor has no clothes, we should just ignore that the Emperor Has No Clothes?

You're right though. Us sitting back for the last 20 years and taking it up the a$$ as Rush and Hannity and the Repubs have spewed lies and hate at every turn, has turned out rather nicely for our party, hasn't it? <sarcasm off>
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:45 PM
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How much do you know about the Black Community? n/t
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:25 PM
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14. And Your Point Is?????
Do I need to be black to point out that since 1969 there have been a total of THREE!!! Count 'em THREE Black Republicans elected to the House of Representatives?

Do I need to be black to point out that there are currently ZERO black Republican Senators or House Members?

Do I need to be black to point out that since the Civil Right movement, covert and overt racism and "race baiting" has led to a block of Republicanism that almost matches exactly the Mason-Dixon line?

Do I need to be black to point out that Strom "A truly great American, who if he'd been elected, this country would be better off" (as per Sen Trent Lott) Thurmond once spoke for nearly 36 hours straight in an attempt to filibuster the Civil Rights Act?

Do I need to be black to point out that every single Dixiecrat switched to Republican when they realized that they could no longer hold power because, at that time in the South, if you had a "D" after your name, you were supporting them "uppity" blacks?

I think your post is offensive. I'm not allowed to have an opinion unless I'm black?

I don't ride horses, but I can sure identify horse-shit when I see it on the ground.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:00 PM
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:45 PM
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13. opps there it is...n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 02:46 PM by xultar
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:12 PM
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22. 11% ain't tons.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:27 PM
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2. Funny!!! I began to read that and started yelling...THERE ARE NONE!!!
..and then I saw the 'sarcasm'.....

Very funny!!!
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:31 PM
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4. black or yellow....
her mouth is open,
so she must be lying....






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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:35 PM
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6. Condalsleazy lied in public on numerous occasions. Pre-9/11 intel,
Iraq WMD, legislation on torture. She is an abomination.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:58 PM
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:07 PM
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9. "They" have got it wrong. Only a dumbshit would call Byrd a racist
from that speech. An illiterate "dumbshit".
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:30 PM
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16. And, for his former Klan ties.
A caller to C-Span mentioned it today and said he had no right questioning her or making statements against her. There's no ducking his past if it's true.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:38 PM
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18.  No "clan ties" for decades. The right wing seeks to discredit him
because he has no fear in going after them.

Mississippi's Trent Lott IS associated with the "new clan" CCC. Let's hear Hannity, O'Reilly or some dumbass C-Span caller speak to that.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:03 PM
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21. The 'for decades' part will not matter.
It will be, "Does a former Klan member have the right to question the competence of a minority nominee." It is up to the left to point out Lott's transgressions.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:21 PM
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25. Yeah, especially when Byrd voted to confirm Ashcroft
Go figure! :shrug:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:37 PM
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17. Byrd is one of the most *pro*-civil rights Senators, now

But Byrd, unlike Thurmond, renounced his youthful participation in a racist cause. See, for example, this exchange with CNN's Bernard Shaw in Dec. 1993:

Q: What has been your biggest mistake and your biggest success?

A: Well, it's easy to state what has been my biggest mistake. The greatest mistake I ever made was joining the Ku Klux Klan. And I've said that many times. But one cannot erase what he has done. He can only change his ways and his thoughts. That was an albatross around my neck that I will always wear. You will read it in my obituary that I was a member of the Ku Klux Klan.


Contrast that with an interview Thurmond gave Joseph Stroud of the Charlotte Observer in July 1998 to commemorate the 50th anniversary of his presidential bid on the segregationist Dixiecrat ticket. Asked if he wanted to apologize, Thurmond said, “I don't have anything to apologize for,” and “I don't have any regrets.” Asked if he thought the Dixiecrats were right, Thurmond said, “Yes, I do.” Thurmond said this four years ago!

http://slate.msn.com/id/2075662/http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=S0950103#Civil+Rightshttp://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=CNIP7879#Civil+Rights
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:12 PM
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23. I think what the Republicans are doing to Byrd is distasteful...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 04:26 PM by DemGirl7
yeah, I know he doesn't have a great past (the whole membership to Klan thing and etc.) but the Republicans are the biggest bunch Hypocrites on the face of the earth for what they are doing to Byrd, because they have a even worse record. Byrd regrets his past and has enough guts to admit the wrongs that he has done,and even denounces the Klan, which I think takes a lot of courage. But those on the Republican side, especially from the south don't admit it, and just go about their business like it was a good thing that they did. Strom Thrumond never admitted his wrongs...he was silent to the very end, Trent Lott still has connections to the CCC, David Vitter(R-LA) has connections to David Duke and Right now...Byrd has much better Civil rights record than Senate Majority leader Bill Frist. So the Republicans need to take a good long look in the mirror before they start playing the Democrats are the racist ones game.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:36 PM
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27. They did the same thing to Earl Warren. He was criticized for planning
and executing the internment of the Japanese during WWII (an act which he later stated he was ashamed of), was a conservative running with Dewey, and later was appointed by Ike to the SC.

He presided over one of the most socially liberal courts in history. He became more liberal as he aged.

He was attacked over and over by the right. Impeach Warren was a bumper sticker I remember.

I suspect that Senator Byrd knows that the KKK connection will always be used against him by the Right.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:21 PM
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10. Great post
And a really good point.
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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:23 PM
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11. lol!
hilarious
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 03:27 PM
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15. Bravo!
Now send it to all who think Gonzales and Rice deserve a free pass because of their brown skin. Their huff does more to reverse the course of racial equality than any question a Democrat could ask. It is appropriate to view this is a historical context now that Dems are being brought to task for taking the black vote for granted. They ARE guilty of that but, historically, the republicans have voted against inclusion until these nominees.

And, don't the right wingers loathe Affirmative Action? Yet in each of their defensive statements for Gonzales and Rice are exhortations that they DESERVE to be the firsts in their positions because...because, well, because they're BROWN. They are so very obviously using these accomplished professionals to gain minority support for future elections and to create dissent in a party that formerly used equal rights as a political platform.

I saw this dissonance coming and I thought everyone else did too. I'm so disappointed.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:02 PM
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20. ROFLMAO
Good one!

:bounce:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 04:20 PM
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24. In other news, Jewish Nazis outraged some German Liberals trying
to keep down the "Jewish Jew Killer of Auschwitz" from becoming Hitler's new Minister of Bullying and Bribery.

Whatever. Up is down, black is white. They have taken the language and twisted it inside out.

And all they needed were a few self-hating turncoats to paper their bullshit over with.

Of coruse, in EVERY race, creed, color, and religion exists such people, from the Jews who acrried Billy Clubs as barracks Chiefs at Nazi Concentration Camps to the ever famous House Negroes of the Antebellum Era to Vytatus Quisling and the Norwegian Nazis.

No way to stop it now, not without a Free Press or a function viable Constitution.

Lies and Orwellian Up is Down-ism Rules Imperial Amerika.

Unstoppable madness.

Amerikan Totalitarianism will be more inclusive than Russian, German, Cambodian, Japanese, or any other Totalitarianism has ever been before.

It will, as always...work.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 05:37 PM
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28. What Black Republican senators?
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 05:37 PM by Cuban_Liberal
I wasn't aware there were any....
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:18 PM
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29. That's My Point CubaLib
Re-read the original post. Should be obvious. I happen to think that humor to make a point is very effective.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 07:53 PM
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30. How many black Repug Senators
are there, do they really have any???
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:49 AM
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31. None. And No House Members Either
Since 1969 there have been a total of three black Republicans that were ever elected to the House. There are none in any of the 535 Senate and House seats right now.

But, according to the right-wing mantra, it's the DEMs who have a problem with blacks in high places. Just gotta love Orwell don't you.

On another point. If * nominates Alan Keyes to the Supreme Court, are we just supposed to roll over an support him because he is black?

We had better not ask him any tough questions, because after all, he's a successful black man.

Actually, the fact that we are comfortable enough to grill Condi over the coals, shows that DEMs have truly achieved equality within our party. We should be able to ask tough questions regardless of race, creed, or color. Isn't that what we've fought for over the last 40 years???
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