BREAKING: Democrats make plans to delay Rice confirmation

[Bluebear]

CNN

"Senate Democrats plan filbustering with hourlong speeches on the Senate floor."



"We are not amused"

[seafan]

1. Also on AAR, Ed Shultz, one minute ago. n/t

[seafan]

29. Robert Byrd and others want to give LONG floor speeches.

Just heard this nugget on AAR news update, about 5 mins ago.

Yahooooo! I was wanting to hear from the old lion himself!

I really, really, REALLY believe we are getting to these people. The small chips are turning into boulders breaking off now.

[nostamj]

86. oh, that will be sweet! Byrd ripping on rice....

talk about MUST SEE tv!

[DemGirl7]

108. Byrd ripping on anyone that belongs to Bush&Co. is always MUST see TV. n/t

[Tinoire]

114. Byrd?! Bless his soul!

:party:

YES!!!

[cry baby]

2. LOL, I hope they do, so she won't be confirmed on Inaug. Day!

:bounce:

[GRLMGC]

3. Ugh, Inauguration Day

Well, at least one good thing may happen on that day.

[cry baby]

99. It will be one little, tiny crumb of goodness to get us through the day

[driver8]

110. I thought it was "coronation" day... n/t

[Bluebear]

4. What WILL she do if she can't appear with her husb...as Secy of State?

[CoffeeCat]

18. LOL! Good one..enjoyed that. (n/t)

[lachattefolle]

78. Look for her under his podium n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

95. lol! That comment of hers at that dinner party goes hand in hand with

one of the Sociopaths when they flew together to Iraq, the Thanksgiving before last.

Excerpt of ** talking to the press

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031127-1.html

They pulled up kind of a plain-looking vehicle with tinted windows and I slipped on a baseball cap and pulled her down, as did Condi. We looked like a normal couple. (Laughter.)

[driver8]

111. Ha! Good one!! n/t

[jdj]

5. I hope they do something. Boxer rocked, I can't beleive

Condom said "impugn my character", Boxer should have shot back "I've heard Bush impugns it every day" or something like that.

[Cocoa]

9. lol

send that one to Boxer, maybe she'll use it in a future hearing. :-)

[CAcyclist]

106. Or "You're doing that quite well on your own"

Or more dignified:

" And I expect a professional to answer my questions without resorting to hyperbole or exaggeration"

[NYC]

6. Hallelujah!

That would really be nice. We all deserve some good news. :)

[Cocoa]

7. good to hear

post more details as they come in.

The dems I guess are not heeding David Brooks's advice in today's column. :-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/18/opinion/18brooks.html

[BurtWorm]

22. More retarded Brooks "advice!"

"The truth is that Democrats probably need a leader who will make liberals feel uncomfortable, the way Clinton did, not someone who will make them feel righteous and good."

:grr:

David Brooks needs someone to make him feel worse than uncomfortable.

[K-W]

32. God forbid the democrats elect a democrat.

The world might explode.

[madinmaryland]

36. David Brooks is a right wing hack.

Mostly useless or incorrect information.

[SammyWinstonJack]

79. Does he mean the way Chimp makes the repukes feel?

"not someone who will them feel righteous and good."

[arcane1]

8. hmm... interesting

I can't wait to get more info

[TNMOM]

119. I hope Condiliar gets an earful

She's a liar and I hope the Democrats repeat that word over and over and over, until it finally takes root in her conscience and she breaks down and confesses.

[Fleshdancer]

10. does anyone know how they would go about doing this?

pardon my ignorance on the subject, but I don't know how this works. Didn't Rice just get enough votes from the Congressional committe?? How do other Democrats delay the confirmation at this point?

[Bluebear]

12. The flilibuster will be on the Senate floor itself

[Fleshdancer]

16. WOW. That's going to be fun! n/t

[complain jane]

20. Oooh... nice....

My b-day is Sunday. I want good news god dammit.

[Oilwellian]

15. It goes to the full Senate for a vote now

Not sure how that works but to me, a filibuster means ALL of the Dems agree to postpone the vote. Excuse me while I pick myself up off of the floor.

[Fleshdancer]

24. lol!

and when you're down there picking yourself up, care to give me hand too?

[itcfish1]

11. When did this Happen?

The time in NY right now is 3:21 p.m. The posted time show 8:00 p.m.

[Connie_Corleone]

13. You have to change the time zone.

I forgot how to do it. Someone will show up and tell you how.

[Oilwellian]

21. It was just reported on CNN a few minutes ago

My time is 3:27 EST.

[Connie_Corleone]

40. Go to "options" at the top of the page...

Then click on preferences. You can adjust the time zone there.

[CoffeeCat]

14. It's about time...

...our party grew a spine and a pair of cajones!

There are glimmers of hope emanating from our party--and it appears that we are not playing human doormat for the Republican fascist thug brigade.

I also saw a DNC ad, which was discussed on CNN. I didn't hear the entire ad, but Bill Schneider droned on and on and on about how harmful this ad was because the Dems were being "uncooperative" with the Republicans.

I hope the Dems are delaying Rice's nomination. She's a failure, a liar and she aided war crimes by licking Bush's boots and keeping the truth silent--for the sole purpose of advancing her career.

Can't wait to hear more...

[yardwork]

43. Question for Schneider: And what will the Rethugs do if we cooperate?

Answer: The Rethugs will grind our faces into the dirt whether we cooperate or not. By appeasing them, we save them a little work.

Stand and fight, Democrats!

Rice is not qualified to be Secretary of State. She would be dangerous in that position. She has no skills or expertise as a diplomat.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

47. What happens is the nuclear option.

Frist abolishes the filibuster and then we will have no power left at all.

[CoffeeCat]

52. If Frist does abolishes the filibuster...

...then he is really an idiot.

The fascists won't remain in power forever. They know that.

Why on earth would Reps vote to kill the filibuster, knowing full well that they would face the no-filibuster rule too--when they lose power?

I don't care how evil, stupid or misguided a political party is. They all know that power vacillates back and forth.

If the Reps do vote to kill the filibuster rule--then this definitely demonstrates how myopic, self-centered and totally off the rails they all are.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

55. I don't think they care, to be perfectly honest.

And yes, I do think they're THAT "myopic, self-centered and totally off the rails".

I get all of the high-priced political journals like CQ and Roll Call. They don't seem to think Frist is all that shy about the nuclear option and a lot of people in the Republican party are actively pushing him to do it.

[Amaryllis]

121. Power vascilates back and forth when elections aren't rigged.

[yardwork]

57. I dare Frist to try it. The Rethugs practically invented the filibuster

They love it. It sustained them through decades of minority party status. No way will they vote to abolish it.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

65. These idiots think they're going to be majority forever.

I don't put it past them.

[iconoclastNYC]

59. I'm so sick of this talk of the nuclear option.

First of all filibuster is useless if they threaten to take it away all the time and cow us into not using it. So call thier bluff.

And if they get rid of it, so be it, when we get the senate we can get stuff acomplished. I think the filibuster has always been more of a problem for Democrats than Republicans.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

64. You lack pragmatism.

You call their bluff on the things that you NEED to filibuster.

You don't need to filibuster Condi because he'll just put someone else there instead that will do his bidding. And she's gone in 4 years anyway.

You DO need to filibuster judge appointments. Supreme Court is a lifetime position.

[iconoclastNYC]

70. You missed my point

They won't do it, they aren't going to end Filibuster, they will get nothing accomplished for the next four years, the fallout from the nuclear option would kill Bush's agenda.

So call their bluff. He's going to stack the courts, there isn't much we can do about it. Filibuster isn't going to fix it. He can always put forward someone who is a stealth conservative. Look at who he got to replace Ascroft. Mr. "You can't vote against me, I'm Brown" Gonzales, Mr. Torture Czar. Wow he's going to be so much better for civil rights then the Crisco Kid. Puhleeze.

If and when the Democrats grow a pair of balls and quit playing it safe, we'll be seen as fighting Republican corruption and working for the middle class. And we'll connect with the voters. It's more about style than substance. Standing up to contest the vote in Ohio, and the Rice nomination (a clear case of failing up-wards) is the hopefully the first steps in this process.

Delaying a couple justice appointments isn't going to fix much.

My fingers are crossed we grow a pair, the long term survival of our party depends on it.

[MsMagnificent]

88. That's not the Republican way

Of COURSE they'll vote to abolish it, because it HURTS them, them only, and at the exact present time.

Then, when they LOSE the Majority - they'll whine and cry and have a fit until it's back into law.

Don't you see? The Republicans are more equal than others and the sooner the Democrats stop playing their game and start DEMANDING answers AND responsibility instead of appeasing them the better!

And if the DNC doesn't change, if they don't get their heads out f their asses and stop being professional Losers, then it's good that they go, too. One more jellied-spine whine from the DNC and I'm gone. MoveOn better take over, or we here stop preaching to the choir and make our message OUT to EVERYONE, LOUD and CLEAR
or the party is doomed.

And not just our message -- it's time to literally stand up and demand what is our due as citizens of the United States and TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.


I've written more Senators today with one message:

FOR GOD'S SAKE *DO* SOMETHING!


Hey -- miracles happen

[adigal]

82. I don't think he can abolish it

for anything but judicial nominees. And then Reid said there would be war on the Senate floor. Good. Those Repubs will NEVER give the Dems anything, so we need to oppose and come up with excellent alternative plans.

[Kber]

72. Exactly!

if the Repubs wanted our cooperation, they should have returned our good faith efforts at bipartisanship in the first term. Exactly how many times were we supposed to get beat up before we left that abusive relatioinship?

[Just Me]

17. HAH!!!! HAH HAH HAH!!!!

No more appeasing neoCONimperialists!!!

HAH!!! :bounce:

[RevCheesehead]

115. Shouldn't that be "NeoCHIMPerialists?" n/t

[Liberty Belle]

19. Can the DEMS force the filibuster to last thru Inauguration Day?

and make all those REPUGS miss the party? heheheh.

What are the DEMS saying in their speeches? IS C-Span carrying? If so, the DEMS should use this opportunity to educate the public about every wretched thing the Bush administration has done--or wants to do.

[Just Me]

77. Apparently, Busholini rescheduled her confirmation.

Bummer!!!

[saltpoint]

23. Condi is brittle.

She's like one of those cold winter days in January when the sun is out, but it is so cold there's no warmth.

[driver8]

113. She really is brittle...good description.

She gets flustered very easily and doesn't seem to think very clearly when faced with any kind of opposition. She is the perfect candidate for Sec. of State. I'm sure that she will continue to represent the United States in the manner to which the country has become accustomed to -- and will spread good will wherever she goes.

[saltpoint]

130. Hi, driver8.

From a Republican point of view, Richard Lugar would have been a better nominee than Condi. He knows his stuff on foreign affairs and isn't as much of a GOP zealot.

----
I see your Bills avatar and it made me a little homesick for Marv Levy. I always liked Marv and kind of miss him in he current NFL landscape.

[karlrschneider]

25. Strange not on C-Span, they are doing HHS sec'y hearings...

:eyes:
seems to be a committee meeting

[Bluebear]

27. It sounds like plans are just coming to light, I heard Boxer & Byrd...

mentioned as ringleaders of the strategy.

[Just Me]

31. I just wish I could actually see it. I expect a full report *LOL*!!!

I'm dancin' and bouncin' around but I don't even get to watch it.

Oh well. I'll have to get my hands on a transcript to save for review whenever I have a need for inspiration!!

:bounce:

[karlrschneider]

48. Oh, okay thanks, I didn't see "plan"

..

[lachattefolle]

80. Oh, how I can't wait to hear what Byrd and Kennedy have to say to Condi

I hope it makes her face contort permanently into that awful grimace she displays.

[hiley]

34. What I heard this morning

was that after "it" has his inaugeration then Senate votes on the floor for nominees. Sorry for the spelling....(After Bush is sworn in)

[Spazito]

26. Whoa! This is great!

It will help the world understand more clearly how loathesome that woman is and removes the 'prize' of her confirmation on inauguration day, wtg dems!!

[buzzard]

112. Are you a Canadian? n/t

[Justyce]

28. Is it my monitor, or

do the whites of her eyes look yellow/jaundiced? Hope she hasn't been trying to keep up with George Whiskey Bush... :beer:

[HereSince1628]

39. I think its your computer, adjust your color to "'angry darts"

[seemslikeadream]

30. Thanks so much for posting this

I really needed some good news, I posted your link in 2004 Election Results and Discussion.

[Bluebear]

37. Well you are most welcome.

I hope this portends that SOME Dems don't plan on rolling over and playing dead for four years.

[seemslikeadream]

51. I also have it linked to a story in LBN now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1165430

DR. RICE, YES. SENATORS KERRY AND BOXER, NO.
The full Senate is sure to confirm Dr. Rice and, unless one or both of these egomaniacs mounts a filibuster, in time for Dr. Rice to take the oath of office on Thursday, shortly after President Bush is sworn in for a second term.
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_6514.shtml


:hi:

[Bluebear]

60. .

[seemslikeadream]

69. I'm sorry

I didn't think it was going to be a problem. My intentions were good.

[mediaman007]

85. Nice Link...to some right wing blog...

I might as well watch FOX all day as read this republican opinion piece. I don't think that should be used as a new source.

[seemslikeadream]

89. I posted it WITH the link to the filibuster

TO SHOW THAT THAT RW RAG GOT JUST WHAT HE ASKED FOR!!!

And if you're concerned about my intentions read this. I've been here over 3 years.

Thatcher: Spain 'secretly backed coup by sending warships'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thatcher case twist as list of alleged coup backers vanishes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Mark Thatcher: The money trail
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Financiers conspired to overthrow oil-flush African government
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Scorpions say have more info on Equatorial Guinea coup
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Exiled leader in Spain denies any link to coup attempt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Bank with close ties to Bush administration engulfed in scandal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
NEW details of Thatcher coup plot: London Evening Standard
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Margaret Thatcher's Son Released on Coup Plot Charges (Update2)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Mark Thatcher held over coup plot
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

BBC News: Thatcher charged
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
'Petroleum lures dogs of war to Africa'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Terrorist Stocks?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Du Toit admits meeting Thatcher
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
SEC probes Marathon Oil payments in Equitorial Guinea (and HQ burns down)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
WaPo: Allbritton Loses Riggs Bank (front page, day 3)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

E Guinea 'coup plot' verdict due + update/result
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
I feel like a corpse in a river, says Mark Thatcher as he faces court...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thatcher to face coup questions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Phone links Thatcher to alleged plot
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
There was no coup plot, says Du Toit
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thatcher to ask Britain to help halt extradition
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thatcher charged over coup plot
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thatcher to be tried in absentia
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Britain knew in advance of Equatorial Guinea coup plot: report
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Tories Demand Answers on 'Coup Plot'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Mandelson faces questioning over 'link' to coup plot
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Legal Woes Cut Into Bottom Line at Riggs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Mugabe flies to Equatorial Guinea (coup plot latest)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Despots, Deposits & Directors - Riggs Bank
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
SABC asks to broadcast Thatcher court case
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Spain calls on EU to warn Equatorial Guinea - Riggs Bank
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Raids 'break up' £20m theft gang
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thatcher coup plot: Mandelson, CIA & State Department named
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Archer 'link to coup plot'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Britain accused of failing to investigate Africa coup
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Pentagon link to Guinea coup plot
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

working links here

DOGS OF WAR

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=9558&mesg_id=9558

I've got more if you'd like

[Bluebear]

91. SLAD it's all good!

:hug:

[Just Me]

100. Hey, "seemslikeadream", I KNOW you were well-intended.

Presently, I question the intentions/motivations of "mediaman007" and "EC". Maybe, they're just jumping to conclusions because don't know you as well as most of us do or maybe not.

You're a fabulous contributor!!!

:yourock:

[seemslikeadream]

105. You are always so kind Just Me

Thanks so much for being there.

:hug:

[EC]

90. My God

this writer is really a RW asshole....(of the article)sorry you guys in Michigan have to read that kind of swill...

[5thGenDemocrat]

127. I've lived in Michigan my entire 48 years

I've never read that POS. And I didn't start with that link.
John
Who has never been to a Ted Nugent concert either.

[Alizaryn]

109. Oh my, why , I mean how can someone or a group

of someones be so damn blind. Evil, ranting banshee disease! That's what it is, ERBD !!!

[tx_dem41]

33. I would be shocked if they could find 40 votes to block this vote. n/t

[BigBearJohn]

35. Oh happy day. Please let it be so.

[K-W]

38. Remember everyone.

Everytime a Democrat, or Democrats take even the smallest step in the right direction, we need to be there to both encourage them to do more and to support them against attacks. If we hang them out to dry the party will become even more certain that the left is a political wasteland.

[Just Me]

46. I COMPLETELY agree with you, K-W!!!

They are going to need all our encouragement and support 'cause they will be subjected to a great deal of abuse.

[K-W]

50. Without the carrot of progressive support,

the whip of progressive outrage will have little effect on anyone holding any office anywhere.

[Peace Patriot]

41. "IS" filibustering? Now? When?

...confusing info here--they are doing it right now? they are planning to?

If right now, we could bombard C-Span to switch, to cover it. Or at least get tapes to post around.

Anybody have any clearer info?

[hiley]

44. In the morning he will be sworn in

then the Senate votes on the nominee's. Then they could raise hell.

[Bluebear]

45. Patriot, wish I could be clearer....

they broke in on CNN and confirmed on NPR, I don't have any details other than Byrd and Boxer want to be heard by the full Senate. Still looking for some info on the web here...

[JerseygirlCT]

42. So is the positioning for the Dems on the committe who voted "yes"?

Is this their cover? They can say they voted to give her a chance with the whole body... and then vote no when the time comes???

Or did they just screw up efforts to filibuster by providing a number of Dem. yeses?

I'm confused!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

56. Committee vote doesn't really matter.

It's the roll call vote that matters.

[Peace Patriot]

58. As I understand the ancient filibuster rule, any Senator may...

...hold the floor (and keep anything else from happening) for however long he/she can keep speaking, on any issue (but it's usually something of vital importance to constituents or the nation), and it takes a 2/3rds majority to shut them up (called "cloture").

So one Senator could do it (to the limit of their voice and physical strength), but if several join together, it could go on for quite some time.

I think the original idea (of the rule) was that any given Senator is a potential president--a V.I.P. who represents a whole lot of people--and therefore has rights and privileges that go beyond merely having one vote in the Senate. They can tie up the whole Senate over a particular matter that concerns them.

The filibuster was used to try to block civil rights legislation in the 1960s, so it got a rather bad reputation among progressives. It may also have been used later on to block the Bork nomination to the Supreme Court (nomination by Reagan?--liberals and women's rights groups opposed it). (... a bit dim on the details).

See the Jimmy Stewart movie, "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." Famous filibuster scene. All us oldies will recall that.

[Peace Patriot]

63. ...ahem...so it doesn't need agreement of all Democratic Senators...

...it's the right of every Senator. But of course it helps to have support and allies, and co-speakers.

IF this is scheduled for AFTER the inauguration--and is not happening right now--we could ALSO put some pressure on non-participating Dem Senators to give support or join (as well as pressure on C-Span to cover).

[Peace Patriot]

66. ...ahem...ahem... or IF it goes on for a couple of days, giving us time to

...mobilize support.

[Just Me]

101. *LOL* yes, Peace Patriot, I do get your point and you may get your wish.

Apparently, Busholini would prefer to re-schedule this program such that it won't distract from his coronation.

BTW, thanks for the summary of the filibuster process.

I'll keep it on file for future use because it is easy to understand.

[hootinholler]

87. Yes, it is....

There is a West Wing episode where a Senator is fillibustering and running out of steam after many hours of speech. Another Senator is sent to the rescue asking him to yield for a question. He does and the asking Senator begins, this may take a little time, my question is in 14 parts.

You don't go to the well with the rules you'd like to have...

-Hoot

[understandinglife]

49. BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7 -- our reps may be 'getting it' (nt)

[YvonneCa]

68. I'm there...

... our representatives are finally getting it. You can tell by their actions. We MUST continue to be persistent in letters/email to news organizations and elected leaders to explain the issues clearly when they are wrong and in showing appreciation when they come through. This will be a long, difficult fight. If they lead, we must support them. Remember John Kerry's words: "Now is a time to stand firm." Never forget.


:-)

[lachattefolle]

81. Not mine-they're Repug whores McCain and Kyl

[justy329]

53. Thank G-d!!

Let's hold them accountable for their incompetence and arrogance!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[SharonRB]

54. This is great news!

I'm so bummed that I'll be in a car most of the day driving with someone else from work to none other than Columbus, the scene of the crime, for a 2-hour client lunch/meeting. I'll have no access to TV or computer all day. That could be good or bad depending on how you look at it. My curiosity will be getting the better of me all day.

Yay, Boxer, Byrd and whoever else is doing this!

:bounce: :yourock:

[wicket]

61. Muhahahahahahaha!!!!

[AgadorSparticus]

62. YESSSSS! it couldn't have happened to a better person. i truly

despise this POS woman. oh and bluebear, that nasty picture of POS you posted should come with a warning. i almost threw up my lunch. :puke:

[catmandu57]

67. At least they're doing something

and I get so damned tired of that phrase, I want fighters, we've got two years (maybe) to bring a new class of democrat to prominence. The fighting don't take any shit democrat, that's who we need now, let's cut the deadwood milquetoast fuckers loose now.
If you don't have the stomach to stand and fight then get the fuck out of the way.

[anarchy1999]

71. Mwhaat? My Dems are standing UP? Oh my, this isn't a happening,

Is it? Stay calm, breath deep, this isn't happening.

Just everyone, keep breathing. Deep.

[Peace Patriot]

73. Searching...

A good BACKGROUND article on Boxer plans for Senate assault on BushCons, and on Boxer and Rice (did you know Rice was thinking of running for Senate against Boxer in '04? I didn't.) (No current info on the filibuster, though)

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/10212326.htm?1c

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Here's a note on KPFA at:
223 of 263. superyumancrew  Posted: 2005-01-18 21:43
http://smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=51584&forum=7

Maybe they are broadcasting or will broadcast Boxer/Byrd (& others?) filibuster?

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audio archive at kpfa.org:

KPFA archives

KPFA preempted their regular programming to cover the hearings, so the Democracy Now! timeslot from 9AM to 10AM is actually the Rice hearings, and so on throughout the day.

KPFA, by the way, has streaming audio archives of all their programming. You can listen to Democracy Now!, every day at work over headphones plugged into your computer, for example. You can browse the archives, and play past shows, and so on. It's a good way to stay informed.

Sliding a little money their way, too, is a good way to support public media. KPFA (Pacifica)
radio at least tries to tell the truth.
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I'm still trying to find info on the filibuster (when?) and possible broadcast.

[Bluebear]

74. MSNBC broke it a few minutes ago

per GD:politics board... what is wrong with the internets? :)

[MsTryska]

75. Whatever else happens it's jsut icing on the cake.

I'm glad My President Kerry gave her a thumbs down.

[Goldeneye]

76. Why don't these

freaking Dems stop rolling over all the time? I'm so sick of it.

[Bluebear]

83. LINK LINK LINK LINK here

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20050119/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/senate_rice

WASHINGTON - Senate Democrats intend to delay Condoleezza Rice's confirmation as secretary of state at least until next week rather than grant her Inauguration Day approval, a spokesman said Wednesday.

"There are a number of Democrats not on the committee that want to have a chance to debate her nomination a couple of hours," said Jim Manley, a spokesman for Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

[Just Me]

102. Did you post on LBN,...I hope, I hope, I hope?!?!?! n/t

[MsMagnificent]

84. Watch the Republicans play the race card

Remember that Clarence Thomas quote about a "High Tech Lynching"? I was reminded of that with Chevron-Condi's arrogance to DARE chasten the Senate (B. Boxer in particular) who are SUPPOSED to question her in their role to Advise and Consent.

Now... in this crazy upside down, inside-out country we have right now

just watch the 'pukes play the race card!

I'll give 2:1 odds, easy

What a world... what a world...

[MsMagnificent]

92. Senate Foreign Relations Panel Approves Rice Nomination WaPo

Can't both be right - who's fucking lying to us?


Senate Foreign Relations Panel Approves Rice Nomination

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee today approved President Bush's nomination of Condoleezza Rice to be his new secretary of state after tough questioning in which Democrats charged that she has failed to level with the American people on Iraq and other issues

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20717-2005Jan19.html?nav=hcmodule

[understandinglife]

93. Check Raw Story headlines, now:

www.rawstory.com

Democrats postpone both Gonzales and Rice votes Despite enough GOP votes in the Senate, some Democrats want debate on the floor.... Sens. Boxer and Byrd named as pushing for debate... Kennedy undecided... Reid's office: Not a filibuster, won't give names...


BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7

[NVMojo]

97. did anyone see this?? only Kerry and Boxer oppose on Senate panel

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=1&u=/ap/20050119/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/senate_rice

[rodeodance]

117. cheers to Kerry and Boxer!!!1

[Just Me]

103. It appears they are playing their own smart, tough game.

I do hope they keep their plan tight and out-of-sight!!!

They will HAVE to be quite cunning and calculating in face of this neoCONimperialist regime.

I sincerely offer my total support!!! :bounce:

[opihimoimoi]

94. They should filibuster until we see Peace in the World......

[zann725]

98. And you know what Shrub would do? What he's doing right now...

creating a false Terror Alert...so that now without Powell in office, Bush is able to 'go around' the Dem delay, and just appoint Condi tomorrow...just as he wanted to. I would NOT be surprised if he tries to make her official tomorrow, without the usual democratic process.

I swear, for once, I'd like this guy to NOT get everything he wants. What a spoiled brat!

[opihimoimoi]

125. Yup, I can see him trying that.....

[Clark2008]

96. What's that hard angular thing I see growing out of Dems' backs?

Could it be?
No?!
It is!!

It's a backbone!!

:thumbsup:

(I know some of you with dirty minds might have thought something else! :crazy: )

[CAcyclist]

104. The Next Four Years Should Be One Long Filibuster

Let Bush shove that up his "mandate"

[journalist3072]

107. Well what do you know!

The Democrats seem to finally be learning the meaning of 'opposition party' and finally getting some spine. Imagine that!

[rodeodance]

116. vote in Senate is next Tuesday

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=565
1/19/2005
Democrats expect a nine-hour debate on Condoleezza Rice’s nomination
Filed under:


Democrats plan nine-hour debate on Rice

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

The Democratic Senate leadership expects to reach an agreement with Senate Republicans for a nine-hour debate on the confirmation of Condoleezza Rice next Tuesday, a senior Democratic Senate source told RAW STORY Wednesday evening.

The agreement, which must be reached by unanimous consent, but which is very much expected, will allow Democratic senators not on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to voice their thoughts about Rice on the Senate floor.

Senate Republicans can derail the discussion with a cloture vote of 60 senators–which would have to include some Democrats–but that is not expected, the high-level official said.

Ranking Democratic leader Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-NV) office disclosed Wednesday afternoon that several members planned to debate Rice’s nomination on the Senate floor next week, but Senate offices are mum on this chilly inaugural eve on who exactly will speak. .....

[Comicstripper]

118. Does anyone else find her freckles to be really creepy? n/t

[LittleClarkie]

122. It's what's above the freckles I find creepy

Those eyes. Those cold, calculating eyes.

[poe]

120. Toto I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore. . . .

-Dorothy arriving in Oz



"What?"
-Richard Nixon


Could someone tell me how to cut and paste in simple terms? Me not know. And how do you get those snappy photos from there to here-wizardry? Me not know.

[seemslikeadream]

124. Check here poe

Computer Help and Support Group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=242

Someone should be able to explain better than I could.

:hi:

[DrGonzoLives]

123. They won't filibuster

but I can guarentee you that damn near every prominent Senate Democrat will be providing a laundry list of how Rice has screwed up, and how the administration has as well.

Those DINO bastards, playing smart political strategy to force the news to be about Rice instead of them. How dare they.

[Gloria]

126. I hope I hear the word LIE often......

eom

[EC]

128. Question??????

does the Senate stay in session during a filibuster, or does the one talking just have to keep talking and others can come and go as they please? Could they force a vote while the Republicans are at their little balls or would they have to sit through it and miss the festivities? I was wondering why Kerry said he'd rather be somewhere else during the inaugural festivities, when I figured they would be done and he could go home...this was planned...kinda deliciously divient...


edit: Must be about 2:00 tomorrow?

[farmboxer]

129. I Am Glad To See Them Stand Up For A Change!

It's been a long wait, but finally they have the guts to do such! This really is "1984", just hope it's not too late. I can't stand to watch the Republican right wing corporate mainstream news media! Watch what Arnold created in "Running Man", I guess he knew what the future of media would be?

[No Exit]

131. Slimy rightwing assholes billing this as "ex-klansman blocks Rice's

nomination." I'm not kidding.

I get sick of Bushbots. What the HELL is WRONG with such people??