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RawMaterials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:33 AM
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THE BUSINESS PLOT TO OVERTHROW ROOSEVELT
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Coup.htm

In the summer of 1933, shortly after Roosevelt's "First 100 Days," America's richest businessmen were in a panic. It was clear that Roosevelt intended to conduct a massive redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. Roosevelt had to be stopped at all costs.

The answer was a military coup. It was to be secretly financed and organized by leading officers of the Morgan and Du Pont empires. This included some of America's richest and most famous names of the time:

And what type of government would replace Roosevelt's New Deal? MacGuire was perfectly candid to Paul French, a reporter friend of General Butler's:

"We need a fascist government in this country… to save the nation from the communists who want to tear it down and wreck all that we have built in America. The only men who have the patriotism to do it are the soldiers, and Smedley Butler is the ideal leader. He could organize a million men overnight."

Indeed, it turns out that MacGuire travelled to Italy to study Mussolini's fascist state, and came away mightily impressed. He wrote glowing reports back to his boss, Robert Clark, suggesting that they implement the same thing.

If this sounds too fantastic to believe, we should remember that by 1933, the crimes of fascism were still mostly in the future, and its dangers were largely unknown, even to its supporters. But in the early days, many businessmen openly admired Mussolini because he had used a strong hand to deal with labor unions, put out social unrest, and get the economy working again, if only at the point of a gun.


????Could every thing since the 2000 election be a new try at an old ideal??? :tinfoilhat:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:38 AM
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1. the dynamics are the same now
except they can't say "fascism" as openly now as they could then.

The Clinton impeachment arose from the same forces.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:42 AM
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2. And that was the Republican party of Bush's grandfather who hatched that..
...plan.

And nobody went to jail when it was uncovered.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:45 AM
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3. Today's Republicans...
Do not believe in the fundamentals of Democracy. Oh, they like elections well enough, but only when they win. If somebody they don't like gets elected, like Bill Clinton, they will spend millions of dollars to vilify him and ultimately defeat his agenda. The 2000 and 2004 Elections have shown that they're no longer willing to trust the whim of the voters -- they're going to make sure their candidates win but maintain the patina of respectability that comes from winning an "free and fair" election.

Their ownership of the corporate media ensures that certain topics will not be covered (other than Keith Olbermann, who else ever even mentioned the Ohio Recount?) or will be slanted in a way that promotes their agenda. Any national news outlets estimated how much Wall Street will earn by privatizing Social Security? Anybody other than online (and largely non-profit) news entities reporting on Wal-Mart's labor practices? The answers would be "no" and "hell no."

Unless Progressive get smarter, and get smarter pretty fast, we could be living in the last days of American Democracy.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:49 AM
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4. Yes
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 11:49 AM by RubyDuby in GA
"????Could every thing since the 2000 election be a new try at an old ideal???"


The only thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history. We are merely doomed to repeat it.
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RawMaterials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:57 AM
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5. Is bush really in charge or was there already a
military coup witch was 9-11, maybe the reason bush looked like a fish out of water was because what the man who leaned over and whispered in his ear was not that were under attack from terrorist, but sorry bud your no longer in charge and you will do everything the Pentagon wants from here on out. :tinfoilhat: :scared:
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SophieZ Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 11:59 AM
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6. It's a buried part of US history. Here's the best article I know on it...
The Attempted Coup Against FDR

By Barbara LaMonica
Probe From the March-April 1999 issue (Vol. 6 No. 3)
http://www.webcom.com/ctka/pr399-fdr.html

That one will knock yer socks off.

The coup is mentioned in a short segment in the current documentary "The Corporation" too.


For lots of info, also, see online -

Wall Street and FDR -- Chapter 10: FDR; Man on the White Horse, by Anthony Sutton
Online: Book Table of Contents http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-fdr.html

Chapter 10 http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-fdr-ch10.html
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moindependent Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 05:08 PM
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11. Doesn't speak well of progressive history
Having read a little of that website, it would seem to point out that the progressive movement is window dressing on a scheme to secure a gov't controlled monopoly on our economy by the ruling political elite.

I also found the theory on gov't regulation interesting. It was a novel idea that the biggest proponents of gov't regulation were the industries targeted for regulation, as it freed them from the competition-driven efficiency of the free market.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 05:14 PM
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12. A free market fetishist?
Ah, the myth of the free market....
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 07:50 PM
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14. Hi moindependent!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:39 PM
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7. Marine Gen Butler....
... earned 2 Medals of Honor. He should have gotten his third for his role in exposing this plot.

His quote about "War is a Racket..." is great, too.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:55 PM
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8. Thank you for reminding us of that.
And enlightening those who were unaware.

Over and over again, our nation's wealthiest "business leaders" have shown themselves to have NO patriotism whatsoever, whether this, or today's systematic export of jobs for short-term profit, or threatening to leave and take their money with them if the tax rates don't continue to be the lowest in the western world.

Absolute scum, these people.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:05 PM
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9. It's amazing how the pro-fascist movement in the 30's is glossed over
we are not taught that leading industrialists were making so much money arming Hitler and Germany's manufacturing prowess that THAT is the reason why, for over 7 years, despite pleas from the rest of the world, we did nothing about Hitler.

It's convenient they had Chamberlain as a punching bag; they slipped the blame completely.

We all know how much fun Harriman, Dulles Prescott and Bush were having then; they finally had to have their finance operation shut down forcibly and their assets seized under the "Trading With The Enemy " Act before they would stop.

By then, their partnerships and finance vehicles with IG Farben had secured the building of the death camps at Buchenwald , Auschwitz and Rechtenwald.

Pretty neat huh.

Now these same pro-fascists are in charge again.
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SophieZ Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 06:05 PM
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13. According to this guy, Auschwitz slave labor was making profits...
for Farrish and "George Bush's father" - I assume that would be Prescott Bush.

George Bush carefully rejected any discussion of the 'Nazi word' in three consecutive Presidential campaigns: not at all surprising, says Bowen, in light of the fact that Bush's closest friend and confidante is "Texas mystery man William Stamps Farrish III, inheritor of the Auschwitz death camp fortune. . . Farrish's family fortune was made in the same Nazi enterprise with George Bush's father . . . The joint enterprise had opened the Auschwitz slave labor camp on June l4, l940, to produce artificial rubber and gasoline from coal. Jews and political opponents supplied by Hitler as slaves were worked to death or murdered. . . In fact, Standard Oil's dealing with Hitler continued right up to the end of World War II." (Bowen 2-4).

Lots of data here, although it's not something I've researched so I can't tell you if it's right. : Encountering Prescott Bush
http://users.aristotle.net/~mstandridge/cpbush.htm

However, I can tell you that William Farrish III IS the US ambassador to Britain, appointed by George W. Bush -- he is a multimillionnaire, the grandson of William Stamps Farish, the co-founder of Humble Oil, AND that Farish's wife, Sarah, was originally from Wilmington, Del., and is related to the du Pont family. -Source for that, "U.S. ambassador downplays Bush protests, Well-heeled envoy says Brits rally weekly, Nov. 17, 2003, By BENNETT ROTH, 2003 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2230509

AND, the du Pont family was one of the major backers of the attempt to overthrow FDR in 1934.).



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Although I don't have it in front of me, I think the coal work they are referring to is the Silesian coal.

Silesian Coal plays a role in this timeline:

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html
excerpts Timeline of Treason: The Bush Family Connection to the Nazis

1930:
Dulles arranged for the wealthy Czech family, the Petscheks to sell their interest in Silesian Coal to George Mernane. Mernane was used merely to hide the Petscheks interest. Dulles then sold the shares to his friend Schacht, the Nazi economic minister. After the sale, Dulles became director of Consolidated Silesian Steel Company. Its sole asset was a one third interest in Upper Silesian Coal and Steel Company. The remainder of the shares was controlled by Fredrick Flick.

1931:
Prescott Bush and George Walker hosted host of the Third International Congress of Eugenics. The purpose of the event was to call for the sterilization of fourteen million Americans.

1933:
William S. Farish was appointed chairman of Standard Oil by John D. Rockefeller. Farish was close friends with Hermann Schmitz, chairman of I.G. Farben. Farish hired Ivy Lee, to write pro-I.G. Farben and pro-Nazi propaganda and get it into the U.S. press. He hired Nazi German crews for Standard Oil tankers. In addition, he hired "Emil Helfferich," chairman of the Hamburg-Amerika Line, as chairman also of the Standard Oil Company subsidiary in Germany. Karl Lindemann, board member of Hamburg-Amerika, also became a top Farish-Standard executive in Germany. The interlock placed Farish and Prescott Bush in a small group of Hitler supporters.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:08 PM
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10. Now we face a political plot to do the same
Grover Norquist is determined to erase Roosevelt from our national memory and replace him with Reagan.

Read up on this guy, it ain't pretty.
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