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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:52 AM
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will campuses erupt with anti-war/anti-bush actions this spring?
I hope so.
It seems that will be about the time that anger toward this lying vengeful amoral corrupt blood-drenched dictator will boil over.
this feels like '70 or '72, when campuses got very hot.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:56 AM
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1. Not until it's too late and the draft is already reinstated.
People just don't learn.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:57 AM
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2. i hope so too--except that back then they were not arresting dissenters,
i don't think. this time around they just might.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:07 AM
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3. Colleges have changed with the times.
The media has now been put in the pocket and will shoot video but never show it.Kent State wouldn't get shown now on major corporate media.Remember this war was protested by more people in the world at more times than any war. How much was seen on t.v. or in the American papers ?
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Be Brave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:14 AM
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4. Nope. I just don't see today's college kids as activists. n/t
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 05:03 AM
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8. Your right they are too conditioned.....part of the soccer mom...
generation, organized events, sports, etc. to plan to be activists.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:21 AM
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5. Why do you think the government basically stopped giving scholarships?
Students these days almost always have to work to help pay for school. If you have to work and go to school you don't have time to get into "mischief"

The world is different. We can't fight this one with the same weapons used in the '60s. This one's going to be done via the net.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:41 AM
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6. Most campuses were active in 2002-03
Everyone was involved in getting rid of Bush this year. I don't know how many will feel their efforts were a waste of time. How many go back to schoolwork and how many get involved in other ways is a good question. But there's no doubt that college students worked to get rid of Bush in massive numbers. They are NOT apathetic!

Vietnam didn't hit critical mass until well after the draft was in place. You can expect even more action if a draft is started today than what you saw in the 60's or 70's. I think Bush knows that would be suicide for the GOP though.
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:57 AM
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7. Draft was in place........
long before the Vietnam was began. The draft began prior to the Korean war. During the fifties, the draft took a much higher percentage of young men than it did furing the 1960s. The kids coming of age in the fifties were the depressin babies, so there weren't that many of us. In the fifties, the question wasn't IF you would serve, but WHEN and HOW you would serve. In the sisxties, the baby boomers really swelled the numbers of young men available so that student deferrments were very easy to get despite the increased numbers of men needed for the army. A much smaller percentage served in the sixties than in the fifties.
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 05:54 AM
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9. Inductions from World War I through the end of the draft
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 05:55 AM by illflem
From 1940 till 1973 between 9,781 and 3,323,970 men were drafted per year except in 1947 when there were zero
Numbers per year here
http://www.sss.gov/induct.htm
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:42 AM
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10. Yep, got request for Speaker at Students Against the War on
Seattle campus in January. Request is to MFSO (Military Families Speak Out ( http://www.mfso.org/ ) and the college group aksing if one or more of us will attend and speak = 15 minutes.

Don't give up on the kids yet...in fact, don't give up on the kids period. Remember it's kids over there in Iraq doing the dying, getting maimed for life. So don't dog on them, encourage them, teach them, show them how. They weren't raised in a protest/activist era and need guidance. Share your expertise.
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:48 PM
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11. Only when ?? (system formerly known as "the draft")
is brought up and running.
When things start to affect people on a personal, day to day basis-that's when there will be a collective primal scream in this land.
Oh yeah, and it'll be just a little bit too late.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:02 PM
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12. Yep
Bring the draft and watch support for this war drop...
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:19 PM
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13. I think next fall
will be an awakening, things will have to get much worse than they are now. I'm not counting out the kids, but after all they are kids, and some of us need to show them the ropes.
Then watch out.
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