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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:50 PM
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So who will the RW blame for taking "Christ" out of Easter?
Easter a truly pagan holiday by its history. The word "Christ" has never appeared in "Happy Easter." What will they do?d Give Easter a new name. Maybe "Happy Ressurrection Day?" Buth then the word "Christ" doesn't appear in that either. What will they do? Who will they boycott?
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:51 PM
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1. the romans?
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 07:52 PM by thoughtanarchist
it was they who took him out 2000 yrs ago...
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:53 PM
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4. "People called Romans they go the house?"
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:53 PM
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5. Great
lol
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:52 PM
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2. Something that puzzles me more
Why do they call the day Jesus was tortured and murder "Good Friday"? Shouldn't it be "Bad Friday"? I mean, I know the resurrection thingy was "good" but that happened on Sunday, right?

Thx in advance for the xtian answers to life's most burning questions. :-)
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:56 PM
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7. probably God's Friday, since the Brits could never spell anything
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:52 PM
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3. Easter ....
Eastre ....

Astarte ....

Ishtar ....

Same thing ....
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secedeeconomically Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:55 PM
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6. Let me think hmmmmm
LIBERALS? lol
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:57 PM
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8. Happy Jebus Zomby Day everybody!!! n/t
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:59 PM
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9. Some quotes from some Fundie sites ....
The English word Easter comes from “Eostre” or “Eastre”. Eastre is Astarte or Ashtaroth the Queen of Heaven. The Roman Catholic Church has instituted a lot of traditions and pagan customs and the Christians today have followed their lead right into pagaism and false worship of God (YHWH). You cannot find Jesus, nor the Apostles, nor the early believers, celebrating pagan customs in the Bible such as Christmas, Easter, Halloween etc…

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Easter is just another name for Ashteroth "The Queen of Heaven." Easter was not considered a "Christian" festival until the fourth century. Early Christians celebrated Passover on the 14th day of the first month and a study of the dates on which Easter is celebrated will reveal that the celebration of Easter is not observed in accordance with the prescribed time for the observance of Passover.

After much debate, the Nicaean council of 325 A.D. decreed that "Easter" should be celebrated on the first Sunday after the vernal equinox. Why was so much debate necessary if "Easter" was a tradition passed down from the Apostles? The answer is that it was not an Apostolic institution, but, an invention of man! They had to make up some rules.

History records that spring festivals in honor of the pagan fertility goddesses and the events associated with them were celebrated at the same time as "Easter". In the year 399 A.D. the Theodosian Code attempted to remove the pagan connotation from those events and banned their observance.

The pagan festival of Easter originated as the worship of the sun goddess, the Babylonian Queen of Heaven who was later worshipped under many names including Ishtar, Cybele, Idaea Mater (the Great Mother), or Astarte for whom the celebration of Easter is named. Easter is not another name for the Feast of Passover and is not celebrated at the Biblically prescribed time for Passover. This pagan festival was supposedly "Christianized" several hundred years after Christ.

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Understanding how Xianity is merely is a pagan religion is not only achieved by looking at the paganism in Xmess, but is amplified by looking at the sources of the Xian celebration of Easter. Easter is merely one of a multitude of names assigned to pagan fertility cult goddesses. She was celebrated throughout the Middle East, Europe, India, and China with names that include Eastre, Eostre, Eso, Astarte, Ashtaroth, Isis (Egyptian), Aphrodite (Greek), Anahita (Persian), Aurora (Roman), Ostara (Anglo-Saxon), and Ishtar (Babylonian). Easter in all her many names is a vernal equinox fertility cult goddess who is associated with the return of the sun to the northern hemisphere in the spring, and thus, to the spring planting season.

The myth among the German pagans was that their Easter goddess (named Ostara) loved children. She entertained children by magically changing her pet bird into a rabbit. Her rabbit then brought forth brightly colored eggs which Ostara gave to children as gifts. The rabbit, of course, is the animal of choice in these fertility cult myths because the rabbit is so horny and prolifically reproductive.

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etc etc ...

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selmo7 Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:27 PM
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16. THANKS for all the info! AWESOME!
I first learned of Easter's TRUE meaning while watching a David Attenborough Nature special about the mad march hare some years ago and in particular intrigued because Maddy Prior had been commissioned to write the soundtrack for it. It was said that the Christians couldn't get rid of so pervasive a symbol of the season as the hare so they dressed it up goofy and it became the Easter Bunny -

Here is a link to Maddy's most poignant lyrical poem/song - The Fabled Hare that honors the Goddess Astarte, the hare, the pagan ancestors, and the precious wildishness of nature (on her album Year):

http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/steeleye.span/songs/thefabledhare.html

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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:00 PM
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10. The Easter Bunny is to blame
Quick, get him before he hops away!
BTW, why is the Easter Bunny considered male? He has eggs.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:02 PM
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11. How bout Christmas ? ..
The Encyclopaedia Britannica reports that "The traditional customs connected with Christmas have developed from several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observations at midwinter. In the Roman world the Saturnalia (December 17) was a time of merrymaking and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the Sun of Righteousness."

Colliers Encyclopedia agrees. Quote: "After the triumph of Constantine, the church at Rome assigned December 25 as the date for the celebration of the feast, possibly about A.D. 320 or 353. By the end of the fourth century the whole Christian world was celebrating Christmas on that day, with the exception of the Eastern churches, where it was celebrated on January 6. The choice of December 25 was probably influenced by the fact that on this day the Romans celebrated the Mithraic feast of the Sun-god (natalis solis invicti), and that the Saturnalia also came at this time."

Both encyclopedias plainly reveal that the source of the celebration of December 25 is the birthday of Mithra, the pagan sun god.

Sun worshippers since the time of Babel recognized this time of year in honor of their gods.

1st century believers, taught personally by Christ, did not celebrate His birthday. 2nd century theologians condemned the thought. Only after severe persecution, destruction and inaccessibility of biblical scripture and the blending of pagan doctrine with the worship of God was the Mithraic celebration of December 25th proclaimed to be "Christian" in nature.

These facts are well documented. They can be found in any encyclopedia. There is no way to "Christianize" the birthday of the sun god. Anyone with access to an encyclopedia can know better and those with theological degrees do!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:03 PM
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12. Clinton.
It always comes down to Clinton.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:08 PM
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13. but how to tie the Easter Bunny to Clinton...
hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:09 PM
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14. In your Easter Vomit with all the flys upon it
Easter is fronted by the candy companys . Halloween & Easter are the big sugar days & all the other dreck kids have to have NOW !......father's day,Mother's day bushkin is an asshole day, these are all very inportant market driven consumer robot festivals of gimmy gimmy that are all the culture this country has left.Soon when we are all slaves (can't waite) the neocons can come down from thier castles and give us treats,pat us on the head then go back to playing with themselves. I say gimmy some more fake chocolate made in China and hail to the thief.
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:13 PM
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15. The G_dless Democrats, of course!
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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