Natural Medicine vs Celebrex

[HysteryDiagnosis]

After seeing them take my dad out with chemo and radiation... and after seeing the mounting list of drugs that my mother's quack has put her on while I know of perfectly effective and safe alternatives to these toxic drugs..

I stand defiant in the face of what is known as "traditional medicine". I abhor their lack of training in the naturopathic realm. I respect their "expertise" not.

They pain me when they say "I think it is all hype" when a viable effective alternative to a toxic medication is mentioned.

They are the true snake oil salesmen primed up by detail men from the pharmcos, knowing no limit to profitting off the ignorance of their patients in many many cases.


http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Bromelaincs.html
Uses

Bromelain is useful in the treatment of a wide range of conditions, but it is particularly effective in relieving inflammation associated with infection and physical injuries.

Studies have shown that bromelain may help in the treatment of the following:

Surgical Procedures and Sports Injuries

Wounds and Burns

Nasal and Sinus Congestion

Digestion

Arthritis and other Inflammatory Conditions

Bromelain supplements may be as effective as some commonly used nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory (NSAID) medications (such as ibuprofen and diclofenac) for reducing pain associated with osteoarthritis. Similarly, preliminary studies suggest that bromelain may also help reduce the pain associated with rheumatoid arthritis. Plus, long-standing use of bromelain suggests that this enzyme may be helpful as part of the treatment for other connective tissue disorders including scleroderma (build up of tough scar-like tissue in the skin and, at times, internal organs), bursitis, and tendinitis.

Infection

Some scientific evidence from test tubes and animals suggests that bromelain can fight against infectious agents such as viruses and bacteria. Therefore, bromelain may prove a useful addition to conventional treatment of bronchitis, pneumonia, and urinary tract infections. More research is needed.

Amyloidosis

Amyloid is a protein-like substance that can build up and cause damage to many organs in the body such as the kidneys, liver, or heart. This build-up of amyloid is called amyloidosis. In one laboratory study, researchers examined the tissue of one person with a strong family history of amyloidosis. They found that bromelain may help breakdown amyloid deposits in kidney tissue. This very preliminary finding does not indicate how this information will translate to treatment or prevention of amyloidosis for people in general. Much more research is needed.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. My MD practices integrative medicine

which means she uses herbs, vitamins, minerals, homeopathic remedies, etc, before she prescribes drugs. She also practices entertropic therapy, a sort of acupressure that can relieve pain (I know, she's used it on me, and it is amazingly effective). She has been called a quack, a whacko, and a witch because she doesn't immediately go to drugs and surgery to try to heal people.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

2. Good for you.... it's all the others who have been maimed, poisoned

and killed that is what gets me going.. but the reason for it $$ is unacceptable. That we should look up to people who take their cues from drugco detail men.. what sort of a system is that? I guess the recent spate of drug pulling and so forth is a sad testament to what the system is really all about. Bless your doctor...

[Quakerfriend]

3. Yes, how right you are

Medicine in our country is, IMO, a very dangerous state of affairs, at present. So sad for all the good people who suffer and are afraid to do anything other than what their MD says to do. And, more than that are unable to afford to try alternatives. This is the real crime! Insurance systems set up ONLY TO ACCEPT TRMT MODALITIES specified by the AMA.

To fully understand how our gov't CREATED this system I rec'd Martin Goldberg's book Cancer Alternatives and also Ralph Moss' Questioning Chemotherapy. It is NOT by accident that we have come to this!

I was raised to believe in alternatives. My great grandfather was the "Father of Homeopathy" in America. Mom went to court to prevent widespread us of DDT in '58. I worked as Dir. of Nutritional Research at NIH research center of large academ . med. ctr. for many years. I pooh-poohed anything that didn't involve large, randomized, clinical trials for a long time. Scoffed at homeopathy and it's laws of cure.

Then I developed wide spread, advanced breast cancer. I began to question everything I had known. Went to tiny hospital in Mexico for treatment used by Dr. Max Gerson- A treatment not predicated on profit taking, and not destructive to the body. In less than 5 weeks the cancer was gone. That was 7 years ago.

What convinced me most was testimony by Dr. Lorraine Day (search on her name and you will find her story). Her life has been threatened by those from the gov't who would like to keep the current medical system in place!! Money is the poison of politics!

[laruemtt]

4. congratulations on regaining your health, Quakerfriend!

that is so amazing. i have read Dr. Day and am in awe of her ability to stick with it when the going got tough, and now you! this is excellent news. i have late state chronic lyme and have been on abx for NINE YEARS now! whenever i've tried to get off i crash to a state where my brain barely functions. am trying to drown myself in carrot juice and alkalinize as much as possible. next year we move to st. lucia and am hoping the natural environment will facilitate getting off all drugs.

again, congratulations! great job.

[Quakerfriend]

5. Thx laruemtt!

I know that it is very helpful to others to hear stories of those who get well............It was for me too!

St. Lucia, eh? You lucky thing you!! I am very envious!

I have a good friend who used Essiac Tea and a Rife frequency generator to get over Lyme Ds. Have you considered these? Perhaps, they would help. That spirochete is a nasty little parasite!
I wish you all the best!

[laruemtt]

7. thanks for these suggestions.

i'll look into them.

[Stevepol]

6. My dad's Alzheimer's was a result of over-medication I think, as

I think many such cases are. The doctors have people, and esp older people who are the most easily manipulated by the Drs, over a barrel. Dad was afraid of having another heart attack (he'd had a TIA, a transient ischemic attack, a minor stroke which might or might not recur) and was unwilling or afraid to resist the doctor's prescriptions. At one time he was on four different drugs, and this was when he was in his 70s, the time when the body can't tolerate such drugs very well. And who knows what the interactions between the different drugs involves. What the doctors are doing, with the advice and consent of the drug company reps and the drug catalogues full of info on the latest drugs they want to sell the docs on, is actually criminal IMHO. The natural approach is slower but in the end much much better unless the case is at the emergency stage, and even then, once that stage is passed, the natural methods should be used: thinking, meditation, progressive relaxation, diet, exercise, colonics, massage, adjustments, herbs, etc., etc. There are dozens and dozens of non-invasive, gradualisms that work OVER TIME and don't have the destructive side-effects of these hyper refined and hyper potent chemicals. I have an older friend who was diagnosed with prostatic cancer and told by the doctor he had to have chemo and radiation. My friend told the doctor to go to hell, he'd go his own way. He's trying some American Indian herbal stuff along w/ a number of other natural healing methods. He'll die eventually (he's in his 70's) but I'd bet anybody he'll live longer and happier by using the natural than using these high powered meds. It's like shaving w/ a chain saw. You might get the result you aim for but you get a lot of other unintended consequences.

[RobinA]

8. I Continually Fail To See

the difference between a chemical that comes from a plant and a chemical that comes from a lab. The body sees both of them as a foreign chemical and doesn't know where it came from. Plant chemicals, lab chemicals...they are all made up of some combination of the same basic elements. Strength and dosage are not really a function of where the chemical came from, but how it is taken. Why would a chemical from a lab be any more likely than a chemical from a plant growing in a field be any more or less likely to cause, just to pull an example out of the thread, Alzheimers? If a chemical, any chemical, is going to have an effect on the body, it's going to have side effects.

This whole natural vs manmade argument seems to me to have more to do with emotion and distrust of science than actual scientific fact.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

10. I see your point. Unfortunately amino acids, essential fatty acids,

minerals, vitamins, anti-inflammatory spices, anti-inflammatory plant derived enzymes, fiber, homeopathics, bioflavonoids, rose hips, and things of this sort will be hard to hurt someone with ESPECIALLY if you know what you are doing with them.

www.bastyr.edu

ALL DRUGS ARE TOXIC. ALL, not SOME but ALL.

[Quakerfriend]

9. Ha! LOL, at the chainsaw analogy!

Yes, it is criminal IMO....... an example of man's inhumanity to man, particularly with regard to the treatments currently given for cancer.

Those in academic medicine really don't like the industry sponsored drug studies, and can see that the study designs are often flawed. As a member of the advisory committee for the approval of all human studies at one of the largest, most prestigious acad. med. ctrs. I recall many speaking out about the flaws- MDs, statisticians etc. However, the drug companies only care about rushing these drugs to market and are all in bed with the FDA, And, the principle investigators (MDs) often look the other way.

Now, at least, the medical establishment is seeking to separate themselves from the drug industry, somewhat.

What I fear is the attempts by the gov't to begin to regulate alternatives, and so control the market. They would love to "oversee" this multi billion dollar market.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. How low did they take his cholesterol?? Is he still with you??