Where can I find good news coming out of Iraq?

[Dawgs]

I'm serious by the way. I want to get the other side of the story, and I'm interested in getting some unbiased good news on what the US is doing in Iraq.

Does anyone know where I can find this info?

[Not_Giving_Up]

1. Good news as in

News that the main stream media isn't covering?

OR

As in happy news from Iraq?

[specter]

2. LOL

you have got to be fuckn kiddin me!

[htuttle]

3. Please define 'Good' in this context

[leftofthedial]

4. in some sort of weird alternate universe

what kind of good news comes out of that place these days?

[Nordic]

5. http://www.whitehouse.gov

I'm sure Bush has some happy stories to tell.

[Dawgs]

6. Definition: Good news for the people we care about...

The Iraqi children...
The American soldier that is not interested in killing the innocent...
The welfare of the Iraqi family...

Are we actually building schools, hospitals, etc?
Are certain areas growing, thriving, doing better?

I know that many of you on DU want to see us fail, but I don't. I want to see Bush fail miserably just as much as the rest of you, but not if it means children will be suffering.

[htuttle]

8. Keep your stinking words out of my damned mouth!

ie., "I know that many of you on DU want to see us fail..."

What the fuck! Did you hear that on Limbaugh?

If you just want to be lied to, go read the WhiteHouse website.

[cali]

14. He or she is right. I want us to fail.

I feel terrible about it. I also believe Iraq is already a failure. 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths, a degraded infrastructure and virtually no security. Of course, I feel horrible about the loss of life and the suffering of the Iraqis, but I'm afraid that if this horrible experiment of bushco's is deemed a success, it will further encourage them to enlarge there policy of pre-emption.
I don't think I'm alone here in believing that.

[wtmusic]

20. Failing in the smaller context

(i.e. bailing on Iraq now) might prevent terrorist organizations from developing the necessary support to get a nuke.

In other words, we lose the battle to win the war.

I agree with you cali. The neocons are so shortsighted it hurts.

[Mandate My Ass]

44. you're not the representative voice of DU

Predicting failure and wanting it are two completely different animals. There are numerous superior methods of proving Bushco admin policies as unsuccessful that don't rely on wishing the worst for those who are pawns in someone else's rigged game.

You very well may not be alone. That doesn't mean you speak for everybody else here and probably you speak for very few.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

45. Take a look at this Williams Formula One car, vintage 1981:

[cali]

46. As I never said I spoke for everyone,

your criticism totally misses the mark. I spoke for myself. I said I suspected others felt the same way. I have no idea how many people feel as I do (though obviously at least two do), and equally to the point, neither do you. Next time you go to criticize a post, try reading it correctly first.

[Mandate My Ass]

47. Reading comprehension 101

OP: "I know that many of you on DU want to see us fail, but I don't."

You: "He or she is right, I want to see us fail."

You're the one that agreed that a sweeping generalization was the consensus of this site.

Talk about missing the mark. LOL.

[cali]

49. Oh, please

Read what I wrote

I feel terrible about it. I also believe Iraq is already a failure. 100,000 Iraqi civilian deaths, a degraded infrastructure and virtually no security. Of course, I feel horrible about the loss of life and the suffering of the Iraqis, but I'm afraid that if this horrible experiment of bushco's is deemed a success, it will further encourage them to enlarge there policy of pre-emption.
I don't think I'm alone here in believing that.

Let me repeat that: I don't think I'm alone here in believing that.

Does that HONESTLY sound like I'm speaking for all here?

Or don't you do honest? LOL

[Mandate My Ass]

51. Oh please? Honestly?

I love the horror but I feel so terrible about loving the horror that doesn't touch me....which is not quite the same thing as living the horror one loves, is it?


What a steaming pile of elephant shit....LOL, ROFL, ROFLMAO, you get the idea. ;-)

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[CatWoman]

21. why are you yelling at Tut-tut?

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

[uppityperson]

23. quitcher flaming. Many of us want Iraq to get better, that's the problem

We get lied to by the administration. Yes, there are horrible things happening there. Yes, there are many many horrible pictures to be found online but how many are seen on the mass media commercial tv? Things are going bad overall, though there are certainly things that are good also. The problem is that it is so bad there and we, at least I, am strongly protesting that.

[htuttle]

38. What are you trying to say in that pathetic excuse for a post?

You lost me.

Please elaborate.

[Not_Giving_Up]

25. I don't think we really WANT to see failure

I think that a lot of see it as inevitable.

[uppityperson]

15. I don't think you know what we want

I think you are confusing the issue of not supporting Bush and the Iraq invasion with desire to harm the people of Iraq. Why do you think many of us are against the invasion and bush? One simple answer is that it is bad for the children and other non-combatants in Iraq. I don't "want to see us fail" in Iraq. The invasion HAS failed.

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[uppityperson]

26. No, I've never ever been happy to hear of innocents' deaths

And never will. I see the problem that bush has already failed, that there is already so much bad he has been involved in. I don't think I need to be happy when something bad happens because there is already enough bad shit that bush has caused that hasn't gotten media coverage, that people don't know about or believe.

Advertising works. Feel bad, lonely? Buy this deoderant and you'll be popular! Feel bad about innocent people dieing due to your countrys invasion? Don't worry, they're insurgents and things are going great!

Good things and bad things can both happen. This time the bad way way way outweighs the good. And sometimes responses online are a reaction to the bad news in that it's easier to be sarcastic than continually crying.

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[arcane1]

28. are you saying we are NOT building them???

:shrug:

we are turning the entire city of Falluja into a fucking labor camp. Don't expect to hear that on Fox though

only a fool would think that we went into that country with ANY good intentions

we did not

reality, learn to live in it

here is your good god-damned news:

FALLUJAH, Iraq -- The US military is drawing up plans to keep insurgents from regaining control of this battle-scarred city, but returning residents may find that the measures make Fallujah look more like a police state than the democracy they have been promised.

Under the plans, troops would funnel Fallujans to so-called citizen processing centers on the outskirts of the city to compile a database of their identities through DNA testing and retina scans. Residents would receive badges displaying their home addresses that they must wear at all times. Buses would ferry them into the city, where cars, the deadliest tool of suicide bombers, would be banned.

One idea that has stirred debate among Marine officers would require all men to work, for pay, in military-style battalions. Depending on their skills, they would be assigned jobs in construction, waterworks, or rubble-clearing platoons.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/12/05/returning_fallujans_will_face_clampdown?mode=PF

[Dawgs]

31. Wait a second...

I think this whole thing has been a fucking disaster. I think the Iraqi people, all 100% of them, hate George Bush and America. It sure seems like everything is falling apart there. I don't know exactly how much though. Does anyone here really know.

We get our news from this site and other Democratic sites. Can't I hope that there is some good news coming out of Iraq.

You guys can scream at me all you want about how bad things are going there, but screaming ain't proof. I know things are bad, and one innocent Iraqi death is to many, but I'd like to get the whole picture, instead of our one sided view of it.

[arcane1]

32. that makes sense, but the problem is (IMHO)

that our motives in Iraq never involved anything that we would consider "good"

do I want dead American soldiers? no

do I want dead Iraqis? no

are we in Iraq to do good things for the Iraqi people? Hell no

[SOS]

40. Ann Garrels of NPR

was on Nightline recently. She had been in Iraq since the invasion.

Koppel said that the media is criticized for only reporting the bad news, but not the good.

Garrels said 'there is no good news".

She'd been there for the whole thing, but recently returned to the US. She said that even Baghdad has descended into such fear, anarchy and violence that she can no longer do her job as a reporter there.

[Dawgs]

37. Why are you so defensive?

I'm as pissed off as the next person, so don't throw out this "sarcastic" BS story to me fella. I'm not wanting this invasion to turn into a victory. I'm just wanting to hear of a peaceful end to this devastating tragedy.

I think this whole thing has been a disaster. I think the Iraqi people, all 100% of them, hate George Bush and America. Iraq has been a huge failure.

We get our news from this site and other Democratic sites. Can't I hope that there is some good news coming out of Iraq?

[Karenina]

48. There is NO "GOOD" news for you

because IN YOUR NAME a weakened nation is being bombed to shit, its history obliterated, its people brutalized, its children murdered WHOLESALE (including those parasites and their hosts) its infrastucture destroyed by a bunch of redneck, cowboy (reflecting the stance of their fearless chickenhawk leader) sand-nigger hating, brainwashed (coming home brainless, armless and legless) troops who REALLY need to GO HOME and tend their wounds. NOW.

Sorry dude. No candles in hell for you.

[uppityperson]

29. any chance of a reply without cursing or name calling?

Makes it easier to have a discussion, if this is your goal.

[Dawgs]

33. Who are you talking too...

If someone posts FU in response to me, then all bets are off. Basically, 'he started it'.

[uppityperson]

35. an eye for an eye? Come on.

How are we supposed to think humanity can survive if we cannot as individuals rise above this.

[Blue_Tires]

41. the children/families will stop suffering

ONLY when we leave....not before--it's that simple

[DrWeird]

52. The US failed. Nothing to argue about that.

We knew it was going to fail before it started. G.H.W. Bush and Cheney knew it was going to fail 13 years ago, that's why they didn't invade then.

The only thing left to talk about is how far people have their heads stuck up their asses and pretend its anything less than a failure.

[Amaya]

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[leesa]

59. Ummm...Bush SUCCEEDING is where the dead kids come from

There IS no good news. The best of the best is being marketed on CNN and Faux. That's as good as it gets. Believe me, if they could find anything good it would be plastered everywhere.

[sam sarrha]

61. we are slaughtering them ..man..woman..child. they tell them to stop in

english and then kill them...

when they enter any house they first throw in a grenade..

check my LINKs.... below and see if they are happy about the things we do to them..shortpost

[Mistress Quickly]

7. Google

good news iraq:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=good+news+Iraq&btnG=Search

There you go.

[teach1st]

9. Some blogs

http://www.brandonblog.com/

http://www.omarmasry.net/1.htm

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/

[mb7588a]

10. http://www.iraqpress.org/homepage.asp?code=newsinenglish

http://www.iraqpress.org/homepage.asp?code=newsinenglish

is generally a decent source that I check often.

[mb7588a]

11. i take that back

it hasn't been updated in months. weird.

[DrWeird]

12. LOL.

nt

[CatWoman]

13. same place you can purchase a bridge for $50

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. foxnews

didnt you know everything in iraq is peachy keen?

[sangh0]

17. www.whitehouse.gov

I understand they are full of it

[izzie]

18. When Bush opens his mouth

I think

[Skittles]

30. Fox News

nt

[Dawgs]

34. Is Fox News unbiased?

You must have missed that in my original post.

[uppityperson]

36. No news is unbiased. No one is unbiased. Choose your bias.

[Skittles]

43. bias is one thing

being a republican extension of the White House is another

[Skittles]

42. no, they are republican whores

but they will tell you everything in Iraq is roses

[Solafide]

50. Neutrality is a myth

[Karenina]

56. You musta got

the wrong URL.

[indepat]

39. Rummy hopes we can be out in four years? But what about those fourteen

permanent military bases which might require at least some token manning?

[JMac]

54. "Does anyone know where I can find this info?"

Here is a site. It appears unbias, but the source that I got it from sure isn't unbias. It was touted in a Townhall article by Helle Dalis, deputy director of the Davis Institute for International Studies at The Heritage Foundation.

U.S. Agency for International Development:

http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/

You can check out Accomplishments by Sector or Reconstruction Accomplishments Overview (middle of the page)

FWIW, I don't know if I would fully trust the source because its a .gov site

[JMac]

55. From the site I linked:

-Distributed high-protein biscuits to more than 240,000 children and pregnant and nursing mothers.

Im not sure handing out biscuits should be in the 'Key Accomplishments' list. It sounds more like a dog training technique then a key accomplishment.

[Lone Pawn]

57. Yeah. Sure. Good news. Ahahahaha.

Yeah, there are good stories. Usually along the lines of "things in town Z are improving after two months of backsliding."

Try going to Good News Headquarters at centcom.mil, where, among other things, you can find out more about "the largest coalition ever built." That might be right up your alley.

[sam sarrha]

58. LINKS............ to some of the best independant journalists.

http://thenausea.com/

http://iraqdiary.blogspot.com/ day to day

http://fallujapictures.blogspot.com/

http://www.back-to-iraq.com/

http://www.iraqjournal.org/

http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml

http://www.fair.org/press-releases/iraq-journalists.html

google 'Iraq war pictures'
Iraq war journalists'
independant iraqi war journalists

[Evening Star]

60. BBC World Daily Iraq Log

May have already been posted but,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/middle_east/2004/iraq_log/default.stm