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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 12:56 PM
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Keith Olberman's Blog today very cryptic!!! Whats your take on it???
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

This has to be one of the cryptic messages from Olberman???

Interested in whta you guys think!!!

Is this the Fraud of the Century???
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:01 PM
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1. I don't see much cryptic about it
He's ice skating over the issue, trying not to be too committed to the fraud charges, but in position to say,

"I told you so," in case anything from Ahrenback sticks.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:02 PM
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2. not cryptic to me
Olbermann is saying that Blackwell should take the Conyers letter seriously.

And he doesn't say anything about the fraud of the century, or any fraud really, although if you want to believe there was fraud that's fine, but this blog entry isn't implying such.

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:12 PM
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8. no chance of that. Blackwell has refused to address the letter..
saying it already been addressed elsewhere, and he refuses to attend the wednesday meeting.

according to the dayton paper on saturday.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:19 PM
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12. more details on Blackwell's response, please
if Blackwell blew off a letter on Judiciary Committee letterhead, that's quite a development in the story, and I'm surprised I missed it, and Olbermann apparently missed it too.

Has Blackwell's response been discussed on DU?

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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:15 PM
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14. unfortunately, no link yet...
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 02:16 PM by Lerkfish
but here, from saturday's Dayton Daily News:

By Jim Bebbington

Democrats on the U.S. House Judiciary Committee have asked Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell to answer for a host of voting irregularities they say occurred in Ohio Nov. 2.
On Wednesday, the committee is holding a hearing, Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio.
A spokesman for Blackwell said Friday many of the issues have already been resolved.
In a letter dated Thursday, the Democrats asked Blackwell for explanations regarding 12 irregularities that have been reported in the news media or which committee staff members have identified. Among them are claims that Miami County had 19,000 more votes appear after Nov. 3, when the county had already reported what it said were 100 percent totals.
Also, they has asked for Blackwell to explain why, in Butler County and elsewhere, C. Ellen Connally, an “underfunded” Democratic candidate for chief justice of the Ohio Supreme Court, received more votes than the much higher profile Democratic presidential candidate, John Kerry.
The Democrats also included concerns about there being too few voting machines in Democratic-leaning Franklin County neighborhoods and allegations of voting problems in Perry, Cuyahoga, Mahoning counties, and asked why Warren County officials locked down the county building where the votes were being tallied.
“Collectively, we are concerned that these complaints constitute a troubled portrait of a one-two punch that may well have altered and suppressed votes, particularly minority and Democratic votes,” states the letter to Blackwell.
The letter was signed by U.S. Rep. John Conyers Jr., D-Mich., the ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, as well as 12 other Democrats on the committee.
Blackwell spokesman Carlo LoParo said the secretary’s office is already working closely with a General Accountability Office review of many of the same issues and believes most have already been explained in news reports.
“We’d be more than happy to fill in the gaps, but a cursory review of Ohio’s newspapers would answer most of the congressmen’s questions,” LoParo said.
Blackwell has been invited to attend Wednesday’s hearing, but he will not attend, LoParo said.
“The only thing that went wrong in Ohio is the representative’s (Conyers) candidate didn’t win,” LoParo said.
The congressional letter says that at one point the Miami County final vote totals were reported on the Secretary of State’s Web site as 20,807 for President Bush and 10,724 for Kerry. They were later changed to 33,039 for Bush 17,039. Kerry received the exact same percentage of both vote totals, the letter states, a statistically unlikely outcome.
Miami County officials say the 19,000 new votes came because Blackwell’s Web site used incomplete results when it posted what it said were final figures. The correct numbers were sent as soon as the error was found.
In Butler County, LoParo said there is a simple explanation why Connally would get more votes than Kerry: Butler County is overwhelmingly Republican. As a judicial candidate, Connally’s political party was not listed on the ballot, and voters were more-likely to cast a ballot for her than Kerry, who was identified as a Democrat.
The letter also asks Blackwell to inquire into why Warren County elections officials locked reporters out of the county administration building where votes were being counted.
County officials have since said they were responding to the possibility of a terrorist attack. Jeff Rupert, a registered Democratic observer of the vote count in Warren County, watched the count and has said he saw nothing suspicious.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 02:18 PM
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15. mods: sorry for that, but can't find a link...
and it cut off my explanation at the end.

that is type from saturday's dayton daily news, but they didn't post the story on their website for some reason.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:04 PM
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16. thanks for that excerpt
Did you have to type it all in?

I confirmed that qoute through Google News, here's the link from the middletown journal, which unfortunately requires registration:

http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/content/news/stories/2004/12/03/MJ1204letter.html

Unbelievable that Blackwell is apparently blowing off Conyers! That deserves its own thread if there isn't one already.


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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 03:11 PM
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17. yes, it is amazing...by blowing off conyers, I think that blows this story
sky high. But hey, that's just me.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:03 PM
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3. Fraud of the century?
Nah, thats still Florida in 2000.......
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:08 PM
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5. Yes, and remember, its only 2004. . .
and there are 96 years to go in the century.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 07:02 PM
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19. now that I ponder
2000 was the end of the twentieth century making it old news already.......Bush has three more years in which to astound us all......
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:16 PM
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10. Hayes/Tilden was the fraud of the 19th century
1876
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:06 PM
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4. He wants answers
The way I read it is that the questions are legitimate and he wants answers. With the digression to baseball and the Tilden election, he is implying that the answer may not be known for years but history will judge what happened.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:10 PM
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6. Bravo Keith
Beautifully written - the sort of article that only those who really know 'the politics of sport' and 'the sport of politics' could produce. I wonder if Keith saw HBOs 'Fields of Fire' - a classic on sports and society in the 60s/early 70s.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:10 PM
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7. Not only that, but the people who are
now in congress should sit up and take notice because if they don't their jobs and their place in history are in jeopardy.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:16 PM
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9. He's saying the results of the election will always carry a taint.
--IMM
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:16 PM
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11. I wouldn't call it cryptic at all.
I read it as Keith calling out Blackwell to pony up with the answers super quick. The voter fraud story is ever so slowly gathering steam regardless of the efforts of those that want it to go.

I don't think it will change the outcome of the race but if it can bring out the extreme fraud we will be in a great position to take back most of what was stolen in the last two election. No matter what this administration or the corporate news media wants fellow Americans to think, Democrats are by far the majority of this country.

Thanks for the post and link.:toast:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 01:35 PM
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13. Thanks everybody
I appreciate all the comments!!!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 06:29 PM
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18. kick
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