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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:05 PM
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how and what true Catholic's think .....National Catholic Reporter....
http://www.natcath.com/

I am heartsick those nights when I catch “The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer” and sit through the silent part at the end of the show, the eerie, somber minutes when we get a last look at those who died in Iraq and sometimes in Afghanistan. What does one do or think as the 20-year-olds, the 18-year-olds, the 24-year-olds roll silently by? They come from everywhere and they look noble and determined, and all one can do is pray for them now and their families.

There is a constitutional amendment I could support, and it would say that whenever a president decides to send our kids to war he or she would be required to also send the vice president, the secretary of state and the secretary of defense to accompany the front lines so that they could see exactly what was going on. I could vote for that.

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I recall seeing the Osama bin Laden clips just before the election. CNN and others showed little snippets and then characterized the statement. I was curious about what else he had said and why we had not heard more. Then I learned that news outlets were not printing it for fear of being seen as giving a terrorist undue space or time.

Bin Laden is our declared enemy. I believe we should know what he is saying, and I am convinced that thinking adults can handle such information -- in fact must handle such information.

That’s why we decided to excerpt longer segments of the statement and to ask experts to comment on what it all means (see story). It seems to me that the least we owe ourselves is to know as much as we can about the person who has caused such a broad rearranging of our cultural priorities, our dive into unprecedented debt and a declaration of open-ended war against an enemy that is like no other before.

With all the healthy wariness we can muster, we need to know more, not less. The discussion must become broader, not narrower.

http://www.natcath.com/NCR_Online/archives2/2004d/112604/112604b.htm
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:09 PM
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1. Full Transcript from Al Jazeera
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm

you may want to cut and paste the link...it's a long one

Here is another from CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/bin.laden.transcript/

if you look at both side by side there are differences.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:21 PM
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2. and which one do i believe...not the corporate media whores crap from CNN
sorry but i canNOT swallow their Pentagon spooned shit ever again :puke:
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:29 PM
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4. 2 B Fair
I think that you can assume that

A) Both have their bias'

and

B) Al Jazeera has better translators

You should really read both. It's where they differ that is illuminating.
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:22 PM
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3. Thanks for posting this, ElsewheresDaughter...
As the article points out, it is so sad and eerie to watch the names and faces of those youngsters scroll by, having lost their lives to this unwarranted and ridiculous war..... :grr:
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:29 PM
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5. I say amend the constitution to say
all soldiers must be over 40 yrs old. I think war would be pretty rare.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:38 PM
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6. What if you just
Amend it to say that people must volunteer to go, even if they are already in the military they still have to volunteer to participate in any given action. So the President says "We're going to invade Iraq" everyone that wants to go, please call 1-800-555-5555.
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