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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 09:29 PM
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Hating America on Fox
Seems there is this Gibson person interviewing one journalist from Canada Mr. Zwicker... and he is blaming him for the polls in Canada that show the anti-American bias there.

Mr. Gibson needs to do his own research, his own detective work, and he needs to get a clue. If what he says is true, then these articles would not exist. What a sick pathetic attempt to defuse what this admin has sown... what a complete and total spinzone. Mr. Gibson apparrently cannot separate his present temporary administration from his country. How sad is that. What a loser, pure and simple.. a dolt, a pawn, an automaton who hasn't a grip on the reality of the day... then again... I consider where he works and what the management there has been responsible for in the past.

www.outfoxed.org

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35383
Over half of Europeans think Israel poses the "biggest threat to world peace," according to a controversial poll commissioned by the European Commission.

The same survey has the United States beating out Iran, Iraq and North Korea – the trio dubbed the "axis of evil" by President George W. Bush – as well as Afghanistan in a ranking of what countries contribute most to world instability.

http://joi.ito.com/archives/2003/01/09/time_europe_poll_shows_us_as_biggest_threat_to_peace.html


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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 09:38 PM
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1. It got worse on the Time.com poll...
4- Syed Hassan @ February 2, 2003 11:04 PM
The numbers have changed substantially since you took the last results. Currently:
7.3% responded North Korea
8.4% responded Iraq
84.3% responded USA.
As of today some 327,017 people have voted so far.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 09:40 PM
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2. anti-American?
Thanks. I can't see the interview, Canada doesn't have fox news yet - although it's apparently coming to digital cable next year (not that I have digital cable there's only so much I'm willing to pay for television). I'm kindof suprised that any self-respecting Canadian journalist would go on fox but, being an ex-patriot (American who left for Canada) I can tell you that Canadians are not anti-American. I have been treated with nothing but respect and hospitality since I arrived. Canadians are though, at least the majority, rabidly anti-bush, and anti-redneck gun nut. There are huge anti-Bush rallies planned in every major and many minor Canadian cities for Bush's visit next week (Americans are invited if anyone is interested - I have tons of info). But if you came up, there would be no threat to you what-so-ever.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 09:47 PM
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3. There are huge anti-Bush rallies
understand. He equates "a simple man" with the entire country, better than 50% of which voted to throw his ass out. Anti-American?? I don't think so... anti-stupidity?? Absolutely. Anti-arrogance?? No doubt. Anti-unprovoked invasion and war?? Who could question that? No Mr. Gibson... you are not a journalist, you are an errand boy.
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Radioactive Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:01 PM
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4. Hating America?
Gibson should have called the show "Why you Americans should hate the World" because thats exactly what the programme was intended to do.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:03 PM
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5. Excellent point!! n/t
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:40 PM
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9. we need to start dealing with these propagandists
in an extremely harsh manner.

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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:05 PM
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6. =)
Again thanks, never would have known about the interview otherwise. Canadians are not anti-American but all of the scandals and lies, WMD, Terrorist connections in Iraq, Enron and Halliburton etc etc that have been downplayed and ignored by the US media have played long and loud in the rest of the world.

I haven't taken this poll, but if I did it would probobly look something like this...

% of the world who would have voted for Bush 7%
% of the world that still has a bruise from when their jaw hit the floor on Nov 3. 92%
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:08 PM
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7. The hypocrisy of supporting "terrorists" when they are warring with your
"enemies" and hating them when they turn on you like a rabid dog is what I find most interesting about this whole affair.

I think you would find All The Shah's Men a most enlightening read. :)
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:49 PM
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8. Thanks 4MY
I'll keep an eye out. Do you know who the publisher is?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 09:55 AM
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12. Link, you can primarily thank the repugs for all of this.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471265179/qid=1101653677/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/104-7053521-9711931

With breezy storytelling and diligent research, Kinzer has reconstructed the CIA's 1953 overthrow of the elected leader of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh, who was wildly popular at home for having nationalized his country's oil industry. The coup ushered in the long and brutal dictatorship of Mohammad Reza Shah, widely seen as a U.S. puppet and himself overthrown by the Islamic revolution of 1979. At its best this work reads like a spy novel, with code names and informants, midnight meetings with the monarch and a last-minute plot twist when the CIA's plan, called Operation Ajax, nearly goes awry. A veteran New York Times foreign correspondent and the author of books on Nicaragua (Blood of Brothers) and Turkey (Crescent and Star), Kinzer has combed memoirs, academic works, government documents and news stories to produce this blow-by-blow account. He shows that until early in 1953, Great Britain and the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company were the imperialist baddies of this tale. Intransigent in the face of Iran's demands for a fairer share of oil profits and better conditions for workers, British Foreign Secretary Herbert Morrison exacerbated tension with his attitude that the challenge from Iran was, in Kinzer's words, "a simple matter of ignorant natives rebelling against the forces of civilization." Before the crisis peaked, a high-ranking employee of Anglo-Iranian wrote to a superior that the company's alliance with the "corrupt ruling classes" and "leech-like bureaucracies" were "disastrous, outdated and impractical." This stands as a textbook lesson in how not to conduct foreign policy.
Copyright 2003 Reed Business Information, Inc.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:15 AM
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10. America ain't Jesus
but they act like it is.

It's a region with human drawn geographical boundaries. It's weird that the people who have the most rigid ideas about what it is are the ones that are so wrong.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:15 AM
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11. America ain't Jesus
but they act like it is.

It's a region with human drawn geographical boundaries. It's weird that the people who have the most rigid ideas about what it is are the ones that are so wrong.
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