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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:53 PM
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Clear Channel issues statement on "Our leader" billboard
This from Clear Channel, via their publicist.

Stories at http://bluelemur.com

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Tony Alwin, Senior Vice President, Creative for Clear Channel Outdoor, issued the following statement:

Clear Channel Outdoor markets are operated locally. Local managers determine what copy to use when a location has time that is not sold to an advertiser.


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Publicist:

Saw your blog about this billboard in Orlando. I represent Clear Channel, and received a call from the AP as a result. Wanted to share the response from the corporation with you. It's attached.

Thanks,
Jennifer Gery
________________________
Jennifer Gery
Vice President
Brainerd Communicators, Inc.
521 5th Avenue, 8th Floor
New York, NY 10175
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:53 PM
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1. raw story gave credit to DU
for story...that was fave part
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #1
12. Raw Story is a financial underwriter for DU
Well, sorta. He's got a yeller star by his name.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:36 PM
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27. ;)
We try. We also always try to attribute our source, and we rely on DU's LBN a great deal in terms of catching LBN as it happens.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #27
119. Good "symbiotic" relationship
Lot's of really good stuff on DU kind of slips by. It's that there are sites like RawStory to catch some of the best stuff and give it a wider platform.
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radiofreesrini Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #1
112. counter billboard i'd like to see
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 04:04 AM
Response to Reply #112
127. One of the funniest moments in cartoon history
in my opinion -- I was on the floor when they did this scene..

How many people know that CLerks was a cartoon show?

and then they did THIS scene, slayed me!

Good one :)
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #127
141. That scene killed me
So, fucking awesome. One of the highlights of my TV-watching career.

WHY WAS THAT SHOW CANCELLED?????????!!!!!!?!?! :grr: :grr:
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fnottr Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:06 AM
Response to Reply #112
153. wouldn't it be funny
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 03:07 AM by fnottr
if someone get's up there with and puts a 'Y' in just the right place....so it'd read Your Leader
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:58 PM
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2. Caught with their pants down
You can bet your ass that the signs were sponsored from the top. More investigation required.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:00 PM
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3. I tend to doubt it...
This IS clear channel's corporate policy; it says as such on their web site; they aren't making up this policy. Whether they issued it from the top could be possible, but wouldn't be in keeping with the general practices of the company.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:02 PM
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5. They fund Bush
Since when did following policy become a part of anything surrounding the Bush administration? Besides, they would NEVER make a direct effort. They would simply hand down an unofficial request that this be done.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:29 PM
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28. Any idea on how to research this tho? I don't have any ideas.
?
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 05:13 AM
Response to Reply #28
53. Requires an audit trail and/or an inside source
Somebody would have to track money, corporate memos, and possibly have an inside source from whom to get the information.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
101. Ed Shultz also broadcasts from a Clear Channel studio
Go figure, as they used to say down South (and probably still do).

Of course, he's on a Clear Channel station locally, and is market dominant in his local time slot.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #2
38. Investigate what?
They aren't breaking any laws.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 05:21 AM
Response to Reply #38
55. We don't know that until we investigate
If they are giving free advertisement to the Bush administration, that is a violation of commerece and political laws. We would need investigation to determine if this is breaking the law. It is still in poor taste, and will be protested.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #55
64. He is not a candidate for office
Unless he decides to run for something, they can pretty much put whatever they want on their billboard.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #64
133. If the presidential election isn't official until 12/13/04...
...does the "no advertisements for a candidate" rule apply until then? Just wondering out loud here.

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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:02 PM
Response to Original message
4. Well done.
Pardon me while I eat a little crow. :thumbsup:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. why crow Skinner, did you think it was 'shopped or what? n/t
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. lots of us thought so, including me
it was just too creepy a picture to be real.


but here again bush** proves he is stranger than reality or fiction.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. Yes, like all of us, he was surprised to hear of large corp's supporting W
Hee hee. I loves bein' evil. I too was in the "it's photoshopped by a troller" crowd. But when you consider the source, it really shouldn't have been that big a surprise. Still, I give Skinner, Walt Starr, and others total props for remaining skeptical. Would that members of Congress had been so skeptical about the first blush of questionable reports coming out of Niger and Iraq a couple of years ago, there'd be about 1200 more Americans and 50,000 more Iraqis on this planet.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #6
73. Yep, I thought the first picture shown was shopped
The third picture from the opposite angle proved how wrong I was.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. We ALL thought it was photo-shopped, Skinner
That's why we kept digging for proof. It's just too creepy to be believed.

NOW - isn't that some kind of violation? I just can't believe that's kosher.
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Candide Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:02 AM
Response to Reply #7
63. I would have never thought that pic was real
I checked for it on Snopes this morning.

Turns out democracy is the real urban legend.
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #63
90. Bingo!
You win the cigar and the brass ring :)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
105. Sadly, many of us in NC figured this was true
because we've seen similar billboards in rural NC for decades.

There were the ubiquitous "Tobacco growers thank Jesse Helms" billboards in the east. This year, there were signs that said things like "North Carolina supports our President, George W. Bush" (not a direct quote, just a paraphrase giving you the general idea).

Not to mention the zillions of Christian billboards we see everywhere in this state, many of them designed to scare people into repenting....or else.

Who funds these things? Local businesspeople. College Republicans, with donations from 90 year olds scammed into donating to a "good cause." Local Chambers of Commerce. You name it.

You mean youse guys don't have these things up in New York? ;)
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #105
106. I can tell you they don't put these monstrosities in Massachusetts
If they put a Bush sign in Boston, you would never hear the end of it.. I don't know how you guys in the South can put up with the Right Wing media shoving their agenda down your throat!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #106
122. We have tough hides and we like fighting on the front lines ;)
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 06:06 AM
Response to Reply #7
129. Wasn't there a LTTE in the Orlando Sentinel about it? n/t
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #7
137. "It's just too creepy" is exactly why I felt it was real.
I'm Canadian though, and as an outsider(barely)it's easier to believe in the worst case scenario.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #4
17. I guess Skinner is just too optomistic...
hoping that they weren't THAT awful and sick.
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alevensalor Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #4
83. That was very big of you, Skinner
Good form, brother. And they say our side just fights all the time.

~A!
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:35 PM
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8. Excellent
Thanks for the story and the diligence of all those who contributed information to it.

Let's spread it far and wide.
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hollywood926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:05 PM
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9. We have a Clear Channel billboard here in Southern California...
right off the 101 near Calabasas - it's black with huge white letters and says IN GOD WE TRUST. That's all it says, except at the bottom where it says "Clear Channel." It's been there since...I'd say close to 9/11.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. There's another one
that reads ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. That one doesn't bother me. Under God we are 1 nation. Under Bush we're 2
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 08:23 PM by Bucky
The repeating of a phrase that defines us as a united country and people is a welcomed relief from the reality that most voters can't tolerate people on the other side of the fence. I find that far far more appalling than a private citizen's declaration of faith.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #16
24. Ordinarily it wouldn't bother me
But I turn a hairy eyeball to a media monopoly ginning up the mythic meme of God, Dubya, and Country, as if they were all of a set. Though I'm an atheist, I can recognize that one of these things is not like the others.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #16
36. That's how we got that way
Either you fight all of it, or they win, bit by bit by bit. We don't need billboards with messages that imply there's only one way to be a patriot.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #16
143. Sort of leaves out those of us who
DON'T BELIEVE IN "GOD"....doesn't it??


:nuke: bush
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Let's start photographing these things
And making a big deal over them all like this one..

Post this one on the main page.. and delete my post!

LOL
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #9
42. i live near there and have been trying to figure it out
how do i get up there..............
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #42
74. I'm not suggesting anything
But I remember something from way back in high school about paint-filled eggs or balloons.
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:12 PM
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11. Well its all too too "Saddamish" to me
We need to start saying they are into idol worship and Bushism.
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Forever Free Donating Member (542 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:02 AM
Response to Reply #11
48. Reminds me of all those posters of Lenin and Stalin back in Soviet Russia
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 03:02 AM by Forever Free
Its kinda scary how far the radical right-wing has hijacked his country and outrightly projecting its propaganda. I fear more and more for my country each and every day.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #11
75. Maybe we could get a tank
to pull it down, like Saddams statue.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #11
100. Amen Julia
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw this. The only difference is that Bush doesn't have a mustache. Otherwise, the vanity's the same!
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:25 PM
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18. 6 months ago I noticed that 90% of the billboards in Tucson, AZ are CC
I saw one of the "One Nation Under God", which struck me as shameless propaganda and pissed me off, and I noticed a little Clear Channel plaque with a serial number on it.

Over the next hour or so, I noticed that EVERY billboard had the little Clear Channel plaque on it. And over the next few days. And I became concerned about a form of media consolidation that happened "under the radar".

Clear Channel is now in a position to choose what appears on our billboards according to their right-wing theocratic agenda. I guarantee that if they had a free billboard and I tried to buy it for an anti-Bush message, they'd decline.

It really pisses me off.
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alaintex Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #18
65. 
**I guarantee that if they had a free billboard and I tried to buy it for an anti-Bush message, they'd decline.**

Why not try this, develop an anti-Bush billboard layout and mail, fax, or e-mail it to Clear Channel, asking them how much it would cost to put it on one of their billboards.

If they declined, you would have facts and evidence on your side rather than hollow guarantees, but given that Clear Channel is in the business to make money, I suspect they would take yours regardless of the message if you were willing to pay.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #65
76. That's a fair bet, though.
I've heard it's happened already in the past. You shouldn't have to do anything but perhaps Google it. There should be a story somewhere.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:27 PM
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19. Anyone else notice the words "our leader" are in a block of Dem Blue?
Was that by design, so as to subtly suggest that Bush is the leader of the "blue" voters too?
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:27 PM
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20. Anyone else notice the words "our leader" are in a block of Dem Blue?
Was that by design, so as to subtly suggest that Bush is the leader of the "blue" voters too?
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Liberal Mommy Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:27 PM
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21. Great job!!
Well I knew it was real because I called the Orlando Sentinel. haha
I was waiting to hear what Clear Channel had to say about it though.
I'd love to find out who exactly in the local office is responsible for this piece of crap though.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:32 PM
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22. I hope there is a follow up
to this unmitigated piece of Crap.

I want BLOWBACK~!
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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:38 PM
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23. Somebody in Orlando needs to get to the bottom of this
Hopefully someone in Orlando can do the pavement-pounding and door-knocking necessary to find out all the particulars about this, in the interest of making sure the public knows exactly who's responsible for these Orwellian displays.
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doubleplusgood Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:13 PM
Response to Original message
25. next: "Our GLORIOUS Leader"
just around the corner, I think
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 09:21 PM
Response to Original message
26. So tired of Republicanazi propaganda
I've been emailing my complaints out about this sign--hope everybody else does too
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DUBYASCREWEDUS Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #26
30. WHERE CAN WE EMAIL?
Please let me know the link where I can email complaints regarding Mein Fuhrer's Billboard. He is NOT my leader - I voted for the Smart One!
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. this is the site of Clayton the third.
I'm reasonably certain he is the son of Clayton Jr., the guy who sponsored the billboard.

Charles Clayton Construction
2250 Lee Road, Suite 120
Winter Park, Florida 32789

Phone: (407) 628-3334
Fax: (407) 628-3321



http://www.charlesclayton.com/guestbook.htm

http://www.charlesclayton.com/
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:30 AM
Response to Reply #32
134. Charles Clayton III - getting political favors from Bushies...
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 01:11 AM by shuffnew
Obviously, Charles Clayton Construction is getting political favors (and don't forget that even Swift Boat Vets 527 large contributor is Perry Homes (also a home builder (Houston, TX) just as Charles Clayton Construction is also a home builder). Perry Homes donated $4.53M (of which $2.9M of it was to Swift Boat Vets) to 527's for the Bushies benefit. Charles Clayton Construction is in Winter Park, Fl and according to networksolutions his administrative contact for the website is located in Orlando, FL (Karen Kersten, Adm. contact).
So this may explain the one sign which states "Charles Clayton" thanking the Bushies for political favors, but what about Clear Channel? (see below article about Charles Clayton III)
Politics May Play Role In Some Building Problems

http://www.wesh.com/2investigates/2616701/detail.html

< snip>
"Since Gov. Jeb Bush took office, lawmakers have considered two dozen home-construction bills. Most would have protected home buyers. Only one passed. It created a Web site listing unlicensed contractors and slapped penalties on unlicensed contractors.

But other pro-home buyer bills that would have toughened rules for certifying building inspectors, required more experienced electrical journeymen on job sites, and demand builders meet home completion dates, all failed.

Three bills our experts tell us mostly benefit builders -- limiting locations where buyers can sue builders, pushing buyers into mediation to settle damages, and demanding buyers give builders a chance to inspect and repair defects -- all passed.

That new law, demanding buyers give builders a chance to remedy problems like the long-running crack in the Burgess' garage is called the Notice and Right to Cure Law, passed this year. Critics say it sets confusing timetables for buyers that could have them missing deadlines and sacrificing the right to sue.

"So that's a tremendous trap for the unwary," Florida Legislative Alliance Chairman Paul Wean said.Wean is head of an alliance that lobbies for homeowners' rights. He calls the new law dangerously confusing."There's a real constitutional problem here because it says that if you don't follow this procedure, you can't go to court," Wean said.

But the Home Builders Association of Metro Orlando says the law is fair and reasonable. "We want to be called. We want to be communicated to and fairly address the issue and make the people happy ... We can't do that if we don't know about it," Charles Clayton III said.

It's no wonder builders have friends in the State Capitol. Last year, Florida home builders spent more than $1.2 million on candidates, parties and causes, one-third of it to Bush's re-election.
Just from home builder political action committees, 32 of Central Florida's 39 winning House and Senate candidates raked in nearly $30,000. Late Sen. Howard Futch got the most, $5,500. The question is: "Does home-builder money influence lawmakers?" It's hard to say. Voting histories show virtually all home builder bills that have passed have been unanimous."

< .. end of snip >

And some more on the billboard subject...Skippy the Bush Kangaroo website has a post about these clear channel billboards...
http://www.xnerg.blogspot.com/

SO NOW... what about Clear Channel's billboard... is it a "freebie" or is it paid for by some anonymous source? If you go to the Clear Channel website http://www.clearchannel.com (and clear channel outdoors is just part of the clear channel) and click on "investors" you can read their SEC filings.
The Clear Channel home office appears to be in San Antonio, Texas and that is the address used on their 10-K filings. hmmm... TEXAS connection.

hmmm... Charles Clayton Construction home builder, Perry Homes home builder (Texas)=Two Luxury Home Builders, Swift Boat Vets (Texas), Clear Channel (Texas based) - Texas connection?

Another interesting tidbit I found...

http://www.publicintegrity.org/bop2004/report.aspx?aid=273&sid=200

< snip for section on "Kerry Lobbyists" >
"Other lobbyists who have been especially close to the senator include David Leiter, his chief of staff for six years. Leiter is a long-time beneficiary of Washington's loose "revolving door" policy, who years after his Senate position became a lobbyist for Mintz Levin Cohn Ferris Glovsky and Popeo PC, where Kerry's brother works. While contributing to Kerry, Leiter lobbied for a number of companies, including Cablevision, AT&T, and Clear Channel, that fell under the senator's purview as a member of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation."

Could the BLUE on the billboard be a hateful stab at Kerry & his brother? Ticked about recounts? Makes one wonder if David Leiter is in or out of favor too at the time these signs went up (whenever that is known about when the billboards actually appeared).

Maybe we should go to the http://www.charlesclayton.com "guestbook" and asking them what is their purpose of such a despicable ad, even IF the election results were already certified?!?! That's what should be strongly relayed to both Charles Clayton and Clear Channel!
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #134
135. Thanks for research into this
Other bloggers say these billboards have been up for a while--wish we knew if they were up before election or not!
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #135
138. Yes, that would be good to know...
however, it is dispicable regardless... as others have noted, like a Hitler or Saddam idol on a billboard. Who pays for this or is all "freebie" for political favors?

Surely all one would have to do in Orlando (or anywhere these signs are standing) is ask local business or establishments near the billboard when in the world did that thing appear?!?!?!
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:22 AM
Response to Reply #26
49. Yeah I e-mailed Jim Phillips, local talk show host
Who is not a fan of Bush, but his station is owned by Clear Channel. I told him I was boycotting until Clear Channel issued a statement on the sign, and removed it. He has a good deal of pull locally, his show has a good sized audience. But you are local, sure you know that. :)
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:40 PM
Response to Original message
29. Mein Fuhrer
Same thing.
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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #29
31. I think a Freeway Blogger needs to
put a mustache on him!
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #31
33. Edward Abbey
How about a little billboard vandalism?
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bob-calhoun Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #31
39. As long as it's a Hitler mustache...
It's the only look that goes with W's political leanings.
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dave420 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 06:15 AM
Response to Reply #39
56. Like this?


:)
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #56
92. Or this?
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kydo Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #92
94. you forgot the...
little american pin on the lapel. other than that it looks just like bushitler.

~kydo
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:20 AM
Response to Reply #92
126. Great job but I'm getting the creeps... putting Dub on billboards
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 02:20 AM by ailsagirl
is just too bizarre-- even for those goons.

What's next??
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #56
125. Beautiful!! I love it
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Applan Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:18 AM
Response to Reply #31
61. Of the type made fashionable by Mr. A. Hitler ?
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 07:24 AM by Applan
This does remind me of those old propaganda newsreels of the pre-WW2 era where everywhere the camera pointed, there was a picture of Hitler. And come to think of it, the same was true of pre-war Iraq and Saddam.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #61
77. How bout an 'Uncle Joe' handlebar?
Photoshoppers, care to put both up? We can vote on our preference.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #31
85. I'm headed to Orlando with paint can in hand..
I'll be glad to put some facial hair on that billboard..

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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #31
124. It could only improve the Chimp... how about a black eye?
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 02:14 AM by ailsagirl
Or a missing tooth????

Beard? Glasses??

Make his eyes cross??

Paint a peace sign over his face??

Or put a five-letter word across his forehead??

F R A U D
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #29
81. That was my first thought, too.
Nazi Germany.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:01 AM
Response to Original message
34. I sure hoped it was fake
Well, I'm sure the law requiring all of us to have his picture on our wall at home is coming soon.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:04 AM
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35. Is there some kind of way we can turn this crap around on them?
There are a couple of clear channel billboards here in my town and I am afraid they were testing it in Florida just to put Bush's mug all over the US. This pisses me off royally!
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #35
47. CLEAR CHANNEL CONTACTS: PROTEST BILLBOARDS!
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 02:13 AM by Liberty Belle
;-) A little sleuthing tonight and I came up with this list of Clear Channel executives. Call and tell them you plan to dump shares of Clear Channel stock over the Bush billboard scheme that their subsidiary, Clear Channel Outdoor, has cooked up. Just remind them what an organized Democratic Internet effort did for Sinclair Broadcasting's stock prices. That should get their attention! You can also state that you will be boycotting their station and their advertisers, as well as boycotting concerts sponsored by Clear Channel.

Start with:

Lowry Mays, Chairman of the Board
LLowryMays@clearchannel.com

Mark Mays, President & CEO
MarkPMays@clearchannel.com

Randall Mays, Exec. VP & Chief Financial Officer
RandallTMays@clearchannel.com

Lisa Dollinger
Senior VP, Corporate Communication
lisacdollinger@clearchannel.com

Randy Palmer
Investor Relations
randypalmer@clearchannel.com
(**Great place to start. He's got to keep all those stockholders happy.)
(210)822-2828 CALL HI

Clear Channel Corporate
1-210-822-2828 (you might try calling after hours to see if there's a directory for the executive by name, or at least an extension for the executive offices)

Clear Channel Outdoor (a division of Clear Channel Communications)
(602)957-8166 corporate office

Does someone here know how to find out which mutual funds own stock in Clear Channel? The trading symbol on the NYSE is CCU.

Clear Channel has some sort of affiliation with the Quetzal/Chase Fund at 212-622-3516; contact is Reginald Hollinger.

Can anyone find a list of Clear Channel stations and advertisers to contact next?

For more leads, go to http:://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/contactus.aspx

Note: Clear Channel is based in San Antonio, Texas--Bush country.

Please forward this info to others and post on other sites.

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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:36 AM
Response to Reply #47
62. the below is not working...
http:://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/contactus.aspx

thanks for the email addresses. we've got to bombard them with emails.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #47
71. Liberty Belle
Why don't you start this as a seperate thread so it doesn't get lost? This is a great idea.

We stopped Sinclair. We can put a hurting on CC.

I love this place!! DU Rocks.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #71
104. I did!
I started a separate thread earlier, but it already scrolled off into cyberspace. If someone knows how to start one with this info and keep it where people can see it, let me know. I'm new here and don't know all the ropes just yet!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #104
109. I'll see if I can find it and I'll give it a kick
:)
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #109
117. Thanks!
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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #47
89. sent the emails
Has anyone gotten anything back yet?
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #47
139. Does someone here know how to find out which mutual funds own stock..
Well, the clear channel website has their Sec filings if you click on "Investors" That should give their SEC number. Then, we could use that number and go to http://www.freeerisa.com and pull up their form 5500.

We should be able to search the SEC filing on the SEC site too and find some info on mutual funds.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #35
59. Executives at CC--Here's how to call/e-mail them!
See my message #47 below with contact info for the major Clear Channel execs, plus info on CC stock. Have fun!
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:14 AM
Response to Original message
37. Really, now.
Does it matter whether the decision came from the top or not? It's still totalitarian government propaganda, and it will stick to Clear Channel whether the top brass authorized it or not. We need publicity on this, and we need to make it clear that America is not ready for totalitarianism quite yet. Surely the connection to Stalinesque Russia can be made.

Better dead than red ...

-Laelth
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bob-calhoun Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #37
41. Clear Channel is having problems
Well folks, the silver lining on the cloud is that a lot of ClearChannel's businesses are having problems these days and believe me, they wish that they actually had paying customers shelling out to push chinese radios on us instead of posting non-paying propaganda. Their concert business is in the hole. Their radio business is in the whole and so is their billboard buisiness. Hopefully they will have to sell some of their divisions off soon. We can all hope.

We can always buy stock in them and demand explanations about why they are posting these non paid ads and ask them if the Bush family is paying for them.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #41
66. Lets help them along
with a boycott. Even before this latest volley, we knew they were the Faux/Sinclair of the radio airways. If we can't get Powell's worthless son to stop media consolidation, perhaps we can do it by bringing the giants down.
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #41
114. har har; wouldn't it be ironic...
...if AAR and Ed Schultz ended up saving Clear Channel's financial bacon?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #37
78. That's the ticket. Stick this to the Clear Channel brass and
make them deny/disavow it. Or acknowledge and support it. Whichever way they go, it's on them, not on some local flunky.

Can Rove sue us for copyright infringement?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:35 AM
Response to Original message
40. Someone suggested paint balls...
If I lived near there, I would take this damn thing down on my own,
in a more fitting and final manner. It's not enough that they are
gloating over their "mandate". Now people have to have the idiot's
image shoved down their throats as well.




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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #40
140. That's what we need.... someone near the billboard to research...
Yes, if we have someone near the billboard, we might at least poll the area and find out when the d---- thing went up!

Directions to it? I have a son working in Orlando and living in Merrit Island. If no one on DU can get there, then if I had precise directions of where it is located, I might be able to get him to do some snooping.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:23 AM
Response to Reply #140
144. It's on I-4 in Orlando
I-4 North of downtown Orlando on the West side facing south near the intersection of Fairbanks
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:43 AM
Response to Original message
43. Gee, Nice of old Clear Channel to do that...
...probably take out my, now legal thankyou God and Bush, assualt weapon...thinking Russian or Isralai at this point, (...and it only took me 10 minutes to modify these suckers to fully auto) and shoot a whole bunch of practice holes in them signs.
He He He He He .....

. . . and HEY, Don't let no Wisconsin scum get into my blind!
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #43
44. LOL!
LibInTexas, welcome to DU! :hi:

While I can't condone vandalism, I certainly admire the spirit.

Best!

-Laelth
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #44
46. Well, you see...
the radical in me doesn't see it as "vandalism". I see it
more as offering them a helping hand in removing it, and
helping to clean up the environment at the same time. A two-fer.

And I would do it free of charge, which means Clear Channel
would have more funds to donate to Repub causes, which in
turn should appeal to their business sense.

See? Everybody's a winner!




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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:03 AM
Response to Original message
45. Portraits of leaders
Mao, Lenin, Saddam Hussein, and now Bush - Control freaks all with their pictures posted everywhere. I never thought we would such an egomaniac as Bush for a president. How low have we sunk?
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:25 AM
Response to Reply #45
50. Don't forget Hitler n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:37 AM
Response to Reply #50
51. Or Stalin, or Il Song, or Jong-Il...
the list continuith.
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 04:57 AM
Response to Original message
52. Im from Louisiana...
and i havent lived there full time since 1996, and i still have dozens of memories of scary fundie billboards.

And i was visiting family in Okla this summer and saw tons of prolife signs with fetuses and shit on them. Just the kind of pleasent imagery you need while driving seventy down the highway.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 05:14 AM
Response to Original message
54. I've been away for a few so
this is the first time I've seen this. How disgusting! But surprising? Nope!

An oldie but a goodie, article by Krugman re: Bush and Clear Channel:


The company claims that the demonstrations, which go under the name Rally for America, reflect the initiative of individual stations. But this is unlikely: according to Eric Boehlert, who has written revelatory articles about Clear Channel in Salon, the company is notorious and widely hated for its iron-fisted centralized control.

Until now, complaints about Clear Channel have focused on its business practices. Critics say it uses its power to squeeze recording companies and artists and contributes to the growing blandness of broadcast music. But now the company appears to be using its clout to help one side in a political dispute that deeply divides the nation.


http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0325-03.htm



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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 06:24 AM
Response to Original message
57. billboard
It would be a damn shame if that billboard were to be torched!
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Rush1184 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #57
72. I know, it would make me tearful...
though I cannot honestly say they would be tears of sadness.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 06:26 AM
Response to Original message
58. putz
Let's do our own billboard. It'll look exactly the same but will read "putz" instead of "leader".

When CC denies us we'll make a stink.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #58
108. I'm thinking along the same lines
Just substitute "Loser" for Leader.

Or,another fun idea, a blow-up photo of either Cheyney or Rove, since they're actually running things. Truth in advertising, doncha know?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:16 AM
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60. It's just a matter of time........
before we have nice big statues of Bush (ala Saddam Hussein)
in all the parks and by ways. In his lovely heroic flight suit
perhaps, leading the charge into the evil Iraq. And his picture will be every where staring at us.... Does anyone wonder why there is a strong attempt to deify bush at this time. There is something up
that is a bit odd. There is more than meets the eye here I think.
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janetle Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #60
80. Subtle Message
Clearly there has been an effort to deify Bush and as a Christian, I find it blasphemous. During the campaign there was the supposed postive Bush ad that showed him hugging aka"healing" a little girl who lost a parent on 9/11. That was the Lazarus theme and its subtle message was....this man is Jesus.

It made me sick.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #80
91. I think there is more to it, there is some sort of plan in place....
As Bush becomes more unstable, the attempt to canonize him becomes more pronounced. He is being Reagonized while he is still alive....
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Helena Handcart Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #91
132. Possibly also to stop people
questioning the ballots and counting the votes. He is our glorious leader - why should it matter whether the election was 'free and fair' or not?

irony off
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #60
82. It could happen
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 11:34 AM by LuminousX
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:53 AM
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67. two comments: one, I'm not sure its illegal (although repugnant)
Since they OWN the billboard space, this is essentially like a "house ad" for a newspaper. House ads are when the advertising sales dept. fails to sell an ad, and the paper runs one of their own ads to fill the space. I'm sure you've seen billboards that says something like "buy this space".

I agree its disgusting, but since no one is directly paying for the space, the means to investigate it as something illegal are dried up (no audit trail, etc.). The election is over, so I don't know what law it crosses, besides the basic human law of decency.
I'm not a lawyer, though, so I could be wrong.

Second comment: Instead of vandalizing the sign, which would in effect be committing a "reverse Parlock". (giving them the chance they need to play the victim on a silver platter)
I much prefer an earlier suggestion made by someone else, of orchestrating a photo op, with volunteers (at least 15 or more) dressed in nazi uniforms, all giving the sieg heil salute to the sign, and invite the media or share the pictures with the media. If nothing else, snap the photo and share it with us here, where it will be widely circulated throughout the "internets".

Revenge is best served when it ridicules rather than destroys, IMHO.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #67
86. The Nazi photo-op is good,
I think another idea would be a group of dark robed figures gathering in front of it every night for candlelight vigils, chanting, genuflecting, etc. Worshipping "Our Leader."
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #86
93. Naw, I think its time to make the Hitler comparison MSM.
Hitler, after all, was fond of billboards of himself (actually, Stalin moreso, but less people would get a reference to Stalin).

time to stop pussyfooting around. They are playing hardball with us, and winning.
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IceOwl Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
68. Is it just me...
...or does that picture look vaguely like Will Farrell, and not George Bush?
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Dookiestix Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #68
87. May I suggest a slight editorial change?
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BlueMole Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #87
88. Well Done!!! n/t
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:06 AM
Response to Original message
69. Clear Channel Outdoor Orlando - billboard Permit List
http://www2.dot.state.fl.us/RightOfWay/p4a.asp?acctid=50336

Which one is it?

Did it used to carry this message?

"YOU'RE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINION" (can't make out the rest of it)

Note!!!
to view picture - click on 'ODA Inventory Picture' button here:
http://www2.dot.state.fl.us/RightOfWay/pmt_dets.asp?facingid=2613
I was going to insert the actual picture of the billboard in my post, but the darn thing is almost life-sized.

---

How long has that particular message been there? Is it new? Was it there before November 2nd? If so, could it be considered a political contribution? If so, wouldn't sign frontage on I-4 be almost invaluable? If so, was it reported as a contribution?
http://www.scenicflorida.org/bbcontributions.html

---

Anything here?

Chapter 479 Florida Statutes
Outdoor Advertising
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0479/titl0479.htm&StatuteYear=2004&Title=%2D%3E2004%2D%3EChapter%20479

Does this sickening display violate anything other than my own definition of obscenity?
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #69
146. V-Shaped Sign is what we are looking for... on right track, but...
I don't think the referenced sign is the right one (look at the difference in the design of the v-sign) unless it was totally replaced (which is possible).

But, you are on the right track, no doubt. We know from our photo that it is 1) a V-shaped sign; 2) It's on I-4; 3) We don't know though what is on the other part of the v-sign; 4) note that the v-sign of Bush we are looking for has several round poles under the signs (the one referenced in your post doesn't, but it IS a v-shape sign; 5) We don't know whether the sign in question has a permit or not, so may not find it on the permits (and any real recent permit may not be on the Florida site yet).
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:07 AM
Response to Original message
70. What is most interesting to me is.....
....that people have to be reminded of this.
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janetle Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:58 AM
Response to Original message
79. Just need an addition
Somebody needs to put up a giant sign above or next to this that says simply "NOT".

In my community before the election, someone did something similar to a big Bush/cheney sign in a prominent place--putting up a sign next that said "Don't Elect" and Bush supporters claimed vandalism even though nothing touched their precious sign.

After that claim, the real vandalism happened with repeated paintball shots in the middle of the night. Finally, they put up a new sign and Bush supporters wearing Cowboy hats took turns spending the night. There is a cultishness to Bush supporters that is freaky. (BTW, my county went for Kerry)
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JMac Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:35 AM
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84. Clear Channel Boycott Thread:
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:14 PM
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95. Please email Joe Trippi at MSNBC about this (link)
mailto:

Jtrippi@msnbc.com

He checks news from citizens and helps to get it out into mainstream. Thanks!
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:15 PM
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96. Clear Channel also bans leftist songwriters
In addition to its overt rightwing agenda, Clear Channel has banned popular folk singer Annie DiFranco.

Dixie Chicks and I believe Pearl Jam's recent "Riot Act" album were targetted also, the latter having a rather uncomplimentary song about Mr. Bush.

"Trillium Asset Management, a socially responsible investment firm, sent a letter to Clear Channel raising concerns about Clear Channel stations blacklisting artists based on their political viewpoints. For example, Clear Channel country station KAJA in San Antonio, where Clear Channel is headquartered, banned the Dixie Chicks after lead singer Natalie Maines criticized President George Bush for ignoring public opposition to the war in Iraq. This ban set off a frenzy of Dixie Chicks blacklisting nationwide at stations owned by Clear Channel and Cumulus Media (CMLS), among others. "

"We are a decentralized operating company," wrote Clear Channel President and COO Mark Mays in response. "There are NO blacklist at our company."

Is Colin Powell's son Michael still the head honcho at FCC?

The day after the September 2001 terrorist attacks, Clear Channel program directors issued a list of "potentially offensive songs" that it suggested stations not play. Many reports referred to the list as a "ban" on the songs, which included all Rage Against The Machine songs, John Lennon's "Imagine", Peter, Paul and Mary's "Leaving on a Jet Plane". Clear Channel spokesperson Pam Taylor objected to the list being called a "ban," saying, ""This was an effort to help people be sensitive to the unthinkable environment. It's been somehow turned into some sort of evil attempt to control pop music, and that's absurd."



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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:20 PM
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97. well shoot me and hang me unside down
what are we getting like the sadam crowd and hanging the dumb asses picture all over this country , next we will be down on our knee praying to jr. god for him, what a bunch of dumb asses , thinking america would want this fools picture hanging on a road side sign , won't be long and someone will have it painted to match his soul
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:49 PM
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98. George W. Bush: Der Fuhrer
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 03:04 PM by Misunderestimator
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MojoRoad Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 09:41 AM
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145. my contribution
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 09:59 AM by MojoRoad
OK. I admit it. I'm not a HTML guy. Could someone please explain how to properly "embed" this image in the message? (according to instructions I just provide the link. (as in http://.....) what am I doing wrong?



http://ca.geocities.com/mojoroad@rogers.com/ourleaderleader.jpg
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:51 PM
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99. Someone should do a
Doc Sarvis on it.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 06:27 PM
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102. Here's a contact for NYTimes
email to editor at NYTimes about this story:

public@nytimes.com
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:48 PM
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113. We contacted the Times, and they...
said they'd pass it to national desk. I'm pretty sure they decided not to do the story.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:13 PM
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116. Why was Clear Channel trying to cover it up to begin with?
Didn't they deny the whole billboard existed in the first place? Man I wish they would show this thing on tv or something!
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AlexHamilton Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 06:54 PM
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103. Hmm...
Couldn't they have picked a better picture of him? I mean if they are angling to make him look like that creepy rapist guy that every town has at least one of; then they have done well. People will see through this kind of sign.

We LOVE the LEADER...(Simpsons quote)

Alex Hamilton
Impeachment by the People
Read my latest article: The Media is Finally Outraged
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:43 PM
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107. I agree this is tasteless but let's fight back in kind
Why doesn't someone closer to the action there in Florida start up a fundraiser among DUers and other like-minded folks to put up our own billboard that counters the "leader" premise. I think we would need a good representative committee to decide which approach we take...e.g. duplicate this one and draw a line through it like we do for parking signs with a line through the P, or we doctor this up with shrub with a nazi moustache, etc.

I think the will of so many determined individuals is a more pro-active way to combat this kind of action.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:49 PM
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110. OMG!! Look at what happened to Iowa's absentee voters..
Found this on another thread:

I just received a notice that vote for this years elections did not count in the state of Iowa becausethe affidavit envelope was not sealed and thus rejected..

I called the country elections office to complain to no avail but ask how many others were rejected and the person replied "you have no idea" and I gathered that to mean alot!!

I will never vote absentee again!!
What the letter said:

STATE OF IOWA

NOTICE TO VOTER OF REJECTION OF ABSENTEE BALLOT

You are hereby notified that your Absentee Ballot that was cast in the General Election on November 2, 2004, has been rejected for the following reason:

Iowa Administrative Rule 721-21.361(53) Rejection of Absentee Ballot. 21.361(3)An Absentee Ballot shall be rejected if the Affidavit Envelope is open..

If you have questions. please contact the Polk County election office at 515-286-3247..

Did I seal the Affidavit envelope I do not remember.. But that should be NO REASON to reject a ballot..
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radiofreesrini Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 10:26 PM
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111. OH MY GOD! BUSH IS DRIVING!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 11:09 PM
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115. Could someone please replace the original photo
with one of him giving the finger? Then change the text to say "our leaders message to you". That would be funny and I could use some funny right now.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:02 AM
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118. Bloggers have said these billboards up for a while now
Anybody know if they were there before election? Could be illegal campaign contribution--I think I saw a couple of bloggers say it was up prior to election. Also, I heard reports out of Brevard county Florida that there is a billboard that says "Thank God for Jeb and George Bush"--anybody seen it? We should contiue to investigate this story.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:23 AM
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120. NY Times just emailed me back about this--here is what they said
Thank you for your message.

We get many suggestions for news coverage from our readers, however we here in the office of the public editor do not participate in the selection of features or make decisions regarding news coverage.

Please send any information to mailto:news-tips@nytimes.comor send a note to the following addresses which can provide you with the emails for many reporters and editors: staff@nytimes.com or directory@nytimes.com.

Thanks for writing.

Sincerely,
Arthur Bovino
Office of the Public Editor
The New York Times


Arthur Bovino
Office of the Public Editor
The New York Times
(212)556-7652
Arthur Bovino
Office of the Public Editor
The New York Times
(212)556-7652
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:31 AM
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121. German website now talking about "our leader" billboards (link)
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:05 AM
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123. the last line, Babelfish says is:
Thus one would have politico-educationally actually concerned in a God state.

A lot of it is talk about current events or polls, such as a larger percentage of Americans saying that religion is important to them. Before that last line they were saying that 37% of Americans think that creationism should be taught in the schools. They seem to think that such an education is incompatible with the scientific education necessary in an industrial economy.

Notably absent is any discussion of the Fuehrer-prinzip that Deutschland lived under for a generation. Of course I only understood about half of it, but Hitler or Nazis was never mentioned.
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:53 AM
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136. http://babelfish.altavista.com/
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 01:01 AM by shuffnew
That's the conversion site I use too.. Will try to help w/ translation... I can read some of it w/o translation. They talk about Limbaugh being an ultra conservative and the radio stations w/ I think Clear Channel reaching 100M Americans, the Dixie Chicks re: War on Iraq, the Sentinel being democrat etc. Seems like a lot of chat about the ultra conservatives v democrats and radio, etc. more than about the actual billboard.

Will work with it some too. Long time since I took German classes.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 04:10 AM
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128. Have no time for translation now. But Heise is a very good alternative...
news source.

Just a few days after 9/11 Matthias Brckers began analyzing contradictions and holes in the official 9/11 story on the heise page.

They were, together with Spiegel Online, the only German "news organization" who mentioned the study of Michael Hout from Berkeley who analyzed statistical anomalies with the election resuls.

This article deals only partially with the billboard, the rest is about the very conservative religious right.
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shuffnew Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:49 AM
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142. My Quick Pass to Translate the German article....
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 02:04 AM by shuffnew
The USA is a split nation. Much also the Religiositaet of many Americans owes itself. The re-election of Bush might lend also the fundamentalist Christian groups in the USA a further upswing, become at least their political interests more strongly to entrance into the legislation changes. With lining up appointments (occupations) of new judges - where a chairman heavily (gets extemely?) gets sick, 8 of nine the judge is over 65, 3 has health problems - the country could change further, which concerns topics such as abortion, liberty of opinion (freedom of speech?), separation from state and church, Homosexuality or possession of firearms. Right ones demand to drive the UN out from the USA. Precariously it may also be correct that they make large posters for places that have emerged, on which to be read is: "George W. Bush - Our Leader".

DOWLOAD
BILLBOARD PHOTO OF BUSH

Still is unclear, which those, which are responsible for the giant poster, aim at thus. One is at a road in Orlando. On it stands, it concerns one "political public for service message", of < externally > Clear Channel Outdoor comes, an advertising agency belonging to CLEAR Channel (a further poster by a Charles W. Clayton Jr. was paid, also in Jacksonville was seen by a poster). CLEAR Channel is a radio chain also over 1200 radio and 37 television stations and allegedly reaches 100 million Americans. The medium enterprise is conservative stramm, controls a large part of the American radio and above all Pop Music Markets and gives for example Rush Limbaugh, the ultra conservative and influential Radio commentator, a stage. Thus it is not surprising that Clear Channel was considerably involved naturally in the boycott by the Dixie Chicks before the invasion into the Iraq under the slogan "Give war A chance" Tendency for the war made (< local > the culture war).

Since the press speaker of Clear Channel was not available Channel, < externally > one did not receive information in Orlando. In Jacksonville an employee explained that Clear Channel does not make political advertisement and the poster is wrong (is a falsification). A further coworker explained, one very probably made political advertisement on behalf of customers. The newspaper Orlando Sentinel published a reader letter, in which it means:
"I wonder if anyone else finds the president's picture on a billboard odd? I'm sorry, but it reminds me of countries with dictators, and it seems people are making him out to be the messiah, the savior of our world. Fear, fear, fear. I'm tired of being afraid."

ABOVE IS THE BEST I CAN DO WITH MY LIMITED GERMAN & USE OF BABLEFISH
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feminatty Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 10:04 AM
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130. Let's do our own billboard
Why not use the same caption, "Our leader", but use the AP Photo of Bush gathered with other world leaders. You know, the photo of Bush, grinning unknowingly, with his fly undone.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:30 PM
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131. London paper had something on this (link)
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 04:10 PM
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147. Another photo of the billboard, photos of other 'Our Leader'-type bb's



http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/221104ourleader.htm

Scroll down to see other 'Our Leader'-type billboards.

"RAW STORY confirmed the billboards existence Monday evening. At our behest, a member of an Orlando media organization drove past the billboard on two occasions and verified that it was indeed the one pictured.

The billboard pictured, which is on I-4, says that it is a political public service message brought to you by Clear Channel Outdoor.

The member, who declined to be named out of concern for their employer, discovered a second billboard bearing the same image along the same route, paid for by Charles W. Clayton Jr."



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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 04:18 PM
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148. Billboard buster, a lttle mustache anyone?
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:05 PM
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149. Altered versions of the billboard
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CatostrophicSS Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 06:16 PM
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150. alt
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:54 AM
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151. Zogby's forum says billboards up pre-election!
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:59 AM
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152. what about those "Don't Vote" billboards in MN? Clear channel too n/t
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:01 PM
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154. Our leader....
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:06 PM
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155. My Mandate....
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 10:01 PM
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156. Here's a link to a TheoCon blog discussing billboard
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