Hey, remember Karl Schwarz?

[DireStrike]

Remember how he said he was waiting on some documentation to make a damning, mind blowing press release?

Well he released this latest info 2 days ago. For some reason it hasn't really made it here yet.

http://www.karlschwarz.com/111804.html

It concerns the motives behind 9/11. There's a lot of text but you REALLY SHOULD READ IT. If it's true, it is indeed damning and mind-blowing.

[seemslikeadream]

1. Thanks DireStrike

:hi:

[Minstrel Boy]

2. That's some hot stuff there, thanks.

Some of the most impressive evidence for me are money trails, and Karl looks to have found a number of them. I'm impressed and encouraged.

[shraby]

3. I saw that. It has the potential of blasting

things wide open.

[sangh0]

4. He sounds very slippery

Reading your link, I don't see ANY additional info. He claims to have received some info, but he doesn't say what it is. He claims to have sent info, but he doesn't say what it is. In both cases, he merely gives a very general description, but no details whatsoever.

He also says he sent a letter to some people, which to me sounds ridiculous. It's the same letter he's already put out. There's nothing new there, and I don't see why that's even mentioned.

In his point #3, he seems to be taking credit for a letter that came from Germany, but nothing in the link indicates that he deserves any credit for this.

In #4-8, he makes claims he doesn't back up

[Old and In the Way]

6. I agree....who is this guy?

I read a post in the editorial section that alludes to some big financial evidence on taking down the WTC for insurance purposes by this guy.....but nothing really hard.

[DireStrike]

7. yes, he's been this way before...

But it still merits looking into, yes?

[sangh0]

8. Sure, ANYONE who says he has info that will bring down bush*

but never delivers deserves to be THOUROUGHLY investigated.

So when will you start investigating instead of merely repeating his claims? You seem to want to look into it. What will you be investigating first?

Or do you really just want to talk and talk about it?

[sangh0]

9. Where'd ya go, DireStrike?

I'm guessing you're out investigating.

[AuntPatsy]

10. lol that was mean....

[DireStrike]

11. We humans have to eat sometimes.

Among other things.

Well, thanks for destroying my false hopes. I guess.

[sangh0]

13. So what will we be investigating first?

I really agree with you that this poseur ought to be investigated thoroughly. Where do we start, partner?

[DireStrike]

14. Y'know

For all the criticism you hand out, I sure don't see a heck of a lot of constructive comments from you.

[sangh0]

15. I'M AGREEING WITH YOU!!!

I think we SHOULD investigate this guy. Just like you said.

When do we start?

[DireStrike]

17. You think a poseur needs to be investigated?

To what end?

[sangh0]

19. To convince the DUers who keep repeating his lies

and say that they ought to be investigated

[DireStrike]

23. Hmm. Seems a little excessive.

You've already got me with pure vitriol.

[sangh0]

18. You want constructive?

You got it!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x418

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x1044#1190

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2727766#2729914

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2729639#2729972

And I've got about dozen more, just from today, so next time, it's a bad idea to criticize me based on your own ignorance of what I do.

[DireStrike]

20. Ok.

[seemslikeadream]

5. Here's a couple of threads about Karl

NEW Karl Schwarz thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2512031

Demand Letter To Bush From Karl W. B. Schwarz - Details A Conspiracy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2504341

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[seemslikeadream]

22. Links?

n/t

[__Inanna__]

16. Very Interesting

For anyone interested, there is a plethora of info on the Net around this issue. I have come across three solid sources that support this sort of thing mentioned here. One of them is a lawyer suing GWB et al (Stanley Hilton) for reasons you'll find interesting, another is Andreas Von Buelow, a guy who was with the intelligence in Germany for 25 years who has his own thoughts on the subject, and another guy who was a colonel in our own army for many years, and he's written three books on this subject (Donn du Grande-Pre). If you google on any of these people, you will find out some interesting things.

[sangh0]

21. Schwarz just repeats what almost every DUer knows

Schwarz has yet to produce ONE NEW FACT about the bush* admin. All he does is re-hash info that's been revealed by Stanley Hilton, etc.

There are hundreds of DUers who knew enough about this stuff that THEY could have written it, and maybe one did. There is just one simple fact:

Schwarz has not produced ANYTHING that wasn't already known, and I challenge you to identify ONE FACT that Schwarz has revealed that wasn't already known.

If you google on any of these people, you will find out some interesting things.

Yes, and Schwarz obviously knows how to use Google.

[__Inanna__]

24. I'm not the enemy here

and pleased to make your acquaintance, Sangh0. If you have read what all three of these individuals I mentioned have said in their interviews and transcripts, my apologies for the redundancy. I am fairly new here. If not, it's worth a read. At any rate, no need to be so unpleasant about it. Have a pleasant evening.

[Ima]

25. bttt

[sangh0]

27. Yes, the info out there *IS* worth a read

I'm not saying that Schwartz is repeating and promoting untruths. Some of what he is saying is undoubtedly true, and the rest MAY be true, we just don't know yet. My point is not that we should disregard what Schwarz is saying, but that we should not give any credibility to Schwarz as a source of information merely because he is repeating info we find credible. To date, Schwarz has not been the source for any info. He merely repeats info from other sources, so he does not deserve to be thought of as a credible source.

As far as my being "unpleasant", I ask that you re-read my first response and note that I do not call you any names, nor do I disparage you, you're personality, or your character, in any way. This only thing I take issue with you over is the idea that the corroboration of info that Schwarz has repeated lends him credibility as source. Every sentence of my previous post addresses that idea, and none of it is directed at your character.

However, there is one remark that is addressed to you personally, and that is my "challenge" to identify anything info that can be sourced back to Schwarz. This being a political discussion board, where the relative merit of various ideas and concepts involving politics are bandied about, I don't think there is anything inappropriate about challenging a poster to provide support for the ideas that they express. I'm sorry if you take that as a challenge to your personality or character, but that is not what I've done.

[m berst]

26. too bad

Too bad he never has anything new, eh, Sangh0, because he sure is a master at getting people's attention.

I have been reading blockbuster breaking bombshell news from Karl at least once a week for over a year now at various boards and in email.

Everyone hopes that he will turn tinfoil into reality, but his talent is in making reality sound like tinfoil.

Nice guy, from having spoken with him, which always makes me reluctant to criticize him. And he might be doing some good by reaching people that none of us ever would.

[Ima]

28. be very careful

of him. Why is he posting what is already out there? From what I have seen, I don't trust him.

[m berst]

29. thanks Ima. I will n/t

.

[Ima]

30. find the bell

He is the CEO of ecapbank http://members.tripod.com/eCapbank/id6.htm/ with the following partners - Karl W. B. Schwarz, General Partner, Managing Director. Former architect, design-build executive, former investment banker, financial institution work outs, commercial real estate finance and distress work outs, taxable lease revenue bonds, bondable leases, reputable investment instruments, defeasance financing.
G. Mont Williams, General Partner, Managing Director, former Indiana Bell, Ameritech, Sprint and Metromedia China.


http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:fB_hoelE8OEJ:www.topangaonline.com/wboard/messages/10238.html+karl++w+b+schwarz.&hl=en

[m berst]

31. see the problem there?

Why would a bank have a junky Tripod website?

[Ima]

32. Rathergate?

Schwarz was active at the highest
levels in the re-election campaign of George H.W.
Bush. He has not been a lightweight Republican.


http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:LYGzo9QR07YJ:www.mindspace.org/liberation-news-service/archives/001242.html+karl++w+b+schwarz.&hl=en